What could a High Earth Orbit be used for in practice?











up vote
5
down vote

favorite
1












I was perusing wikipedia and saw this awesome infographic:



enter image description here



Original location of infograhpic: Wikipedia



Then it hit me, in all the time I've been browsing space articles and such...



I've never heard of any artificial satellite in a High Earth Orbit.



There are 2 satellites in HEO as of right now...



I love being wrong many, many times... There's 15 according to @CoAstroGeek





My questions are:




  • Is this type of orbit just not very useful, or is it just hard to get above 35,000KM above the earths surface in a stable, circular orbit?


    • Is it a 'more work than its worth' type of situation?






Specifically, I'm not asking about interstellar staging, etc... kind of want this question focused on current-day technology and what's already there or what's planned to be there. Also, to clarify, I'm talking about significantly beyond GEO/GSO, I want to know what uses an HEO could be used for. Most articles that I find touch heavily on GEO/GSO and state it as the boundary for HEO, but don't talk about HEO.





Upon researching a bit more I've found 2 satellites that fit this bill:





  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_(satellite)


    • Launched very early on (1967).

    • 1/3 the distance to the moon.

    • In a near-circular, low eccentricity orbit.

    • Probably not the best example for a satellite requiring HEO.




  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_Boundary_Explorer


    • Launched October 2008.

    • Possibly a better example of a satellite requiring HEO.

    • I would love extrapolation on why this satellite functions better in HEO.




Though the pages don't really state how HEO is required for these to function to any degree.










share|improve this question




























    up vote
    5
    down vote

    favorite
    1












    I was perusing wikipedia and saw this awesome infographic:



    enter image description here



    Original location of infograhpic: Wikipedia



    Then it hit me, in all the time I've been browsing space articles and such...



    I've never heard of any artificial satellite in a High Earth Orbit.



    There are 2 satellites in HEO as of right now...



    I love being wrong many, many times... There's 15 according to @CoAstroGeek





    My questions are:




    • Is this type of orbit just not very useful, or is it just hard to get above 35,000KM above the earths surface in a stable, circular orbit?


      • Is it a 'more work than its worth' type of situation?






    Specifically, I'm not asking about interstellar staging, etc... kind of want this question focused on current-day technology and what's already there or what's planned to be there. Also, to clarify, I'm talking about significantly beyond GEO/GSO, I want to know what uses an HEO could be used for. Most articles that I find touch heavily on GEO/GSO and state it as the boundary for HEO, but don't talk about HEO.





    Upon researching a bit more I've found 2 satellites that fit this bill:





    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_(satellite)


      • Launched very early on (1967).

      • 1/3 the distance to the moon.

      • In a near-circular, low eccentricity orbit.

      • Probably not the best example for a satellite requiring HEO.




    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_Boundary_Explorer


      • Launched October 2008.

      • Possibly a better example of a satellite requiring HEO.

      • I would love extrapolation on why this satellite functions better in HEO.




    Though the pages don't really state how HEO is required for these to function to any degree.










    share|improve this question


























      up vote
      5
      down vote

      favorite
      1









      up vote
      5
      down vote

      favorite
      1






      1





      I was perusing wikipedia and saw this awesome infographic:



      enter image description here



      Original location of infograhpic: Wikipedia



      Then it hit me, in all the time I've been browsing space articles and such...



      I've never heard of any artificial satellite in a High Earth Orbit.



      There are 2 satellites in HEO as of right now...



      I love being wrong many, many times... There's 15 according to @CoAstroGeek





      My questions are:




      • Is this type of orbit just not very useful, or is it just hard to get above 35,000KM above the earths surface in a stable, circular orbit?


        • Is it a 'more work than its worth' type of situation?






      Specifically, I'm not asking about interstellar staging, etc... kind of want this question focused on current-day technology and what's already there or what's planned to be there. Also, to clarify, I'm talking about significantly beyond GEO/GSO, I want to know what uses an HEO could be used for. Most articles that I find touch heavily on GEO/GSO and state it as the boundary for HEO, but don't talk about HEO.





      Upon researching a bit more I've found 2 satellites that fit this bill:





      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_(satellite)


        • Launched very early on (1967).

        • 1/3 the distance to the moon.

        • In a near-circular, low eccentricity orbit.

        • Probably not the best example for a satellite requiring HEO.




      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_Boundary_Explorer


        • Launched October 2008.

        • Possibly a better example of a satellite requiring HEO.

        • I would love extrapolation on why this satellite functions better in HEO.




      Though the pages don't really state how HEO is required for these to function to any degree.










      share|improve this question















      I was perusing wikipedia and saw this awesome infographic:



      enter image description here



      Original location of infograhpic: Wikipedia



      Then it hit me, in all the time I've been browsing space articles and such...



      I've never heard of any artificial satellite in a High Earth Orbit.



      There are 2 satellites in HEO as of right now...



      I love being wrong many, many times... There's 15 according to @CoAstroGeek





      My questions are:




      • Is this type of orbit just not very useful, or is it just hard to get above 35,000KM above the earths surface in a stable, circular orbit?


        • Is it a 'more work than its worth' type of situation?






      Specifically, I'm not asking about interstellar staging, etc... kind of want this question focused on current-day technology and what's already there or what's planned to be there. Also, to clarify, I'm talking about significantly beyond GEO/GSO, I want to know what uses an HEO could be used for. Most articles that I find touch heavily on GEO/GSO and state it as the boundary for HEO, but don't talk about HEO.





      Upon researching a bit more I've found 2 satellites that fit this bill:





      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_(satellite)


        • Launched very early on (1967).

        • 1/3 the distance to the moon.

        • In a near-circular, low eccentricity orbit.

        • Probably not the best example for a satellite requiring HEO.




      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_Boundary_Explorer


        • Launched October 2008.

        • Possibly a better example of a satellite requiring HEO.

        • I would love extrapolation on why this satellite functions better in HEO.




      Though the pages don't really state how HEO is required for these to function to any degree.







      orbital-mechanics orbit high-earth-orbit






      share|improve this question















      share|improve this question













      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question








      edited Nov 30 at 21:16









      PearsonArtPhoto

      79.3k16226436




      79.3k16226436










      asked Nov 30 at 18:37









      Magic Octopus Urn

      2,34211139




      2,34211139






















          4 Answers
          4






          active

          oldest

          votes

















          up vote
          4
          down vote













          There are a few other VELA and Explorer satellites, 2 SOLRAD missions and the Japanese GEOTAIL mission from 1992:



          | CatalogNum | SatName              | IntlDes   | Country | Launch     | Site  | Inclination | Apogee | Perigee | Period  |
          +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+
          | 2258 | EXPLORER 33 (AIMP-D) | 1966-058A | US | 1966-07-01 | AFETR | 24.14 | 480762 | 265679 | 38792.4 |
          | 6197 | EXPLORER 47 (IMP-7) | 1972-073A | US | 1972-09-23 | AFETR | 13.97 | 232222 | 204011 | 17642.9 |
          | 6893 | EXPLORER 50 (IMP-8) | 1973-078A | US | 1973-10-26 | AFETR | 50.55 | 253706 | 181001 | 17553 |
          | 8748 | SOLRAD 11A | 1976-023C | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119054 | 117941 | 7319.39 |
          | 8749 | SOLRAD 11B | 1976-023D | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119521 | 117905 | 7338.38 |
          | 2766 | OPS 6679 (VELA 8) | 1967-040B | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 37.17 | 123849 | 99054 | 6708.75 |
          | 3955 | OPS 6911 (VELA 10) | 1969-046E | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 61.05 | 150634 | 72080 | 6700.68 |
          | 1459 | OPS 6564 (VELA 6) | 1965-058B | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 13.12 | 167834 | 55198 | 6714.3 |
          | 2765 | OPS 6638 (VELA 7) | 1967-040A | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 9.58 | 167787 | 55166 | 6710.88 |
          | 1458 | OPS 6577 (VELA 5) | 1965-058A | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 22.61 | 171865 | 51411 | 6724.69 |
          | 22049 | GEOTAIL | 1992-044A | JPN | 1992-07-24 | AFETR | 12.19 | 190602 | 50635 | 7506.67 |
          | 836 | OPS 3662 (VELA 3) | 1964-040A | US | 1964-07-17 | AFETR | 75.71 | 161013 | 45586 | 6024.72 |
          | 3954 | OPS 6909 (VELA 9) | 1969-046D | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 51.79 | 178487 | 44067 | 6693.89 |
          | 33401 | IBEX | 2008-051A | US | 2008-10-19 | WRAS | 30.22 | 333432 | 43051 | 14240.9 |
          | 674 | VELA 2 | 1963-039A | US | 1963-10-17 | AFETR | 26.69 | 177085 | 40568 | 6485.83 |
          +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+


          Be careful in using the acronym HEO - in some communities this means Highly Eccentric Orbit






          share|improve this answer





















          • wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
            – Magic Octopus Urn
            Nov 30 at 20:17










          • There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
            – CoAstroGeek
            Nov 30 at 21:33










          • Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
            – amI
            Dec 1 at 5:56










          • Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
            – The_Sympathizer
            Dec 1 at 5:57










          • Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
            – amI
            Dec 1 at 6:01


















          up vote
          3
          down vote













          Borrowed from this answer to the question What artificial satellite has the farthest orbit around the Earth?. You can read more about their orbits in that answer.




          I found the following "far out" spacecraft:





          • TESS (Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite) recently launched, not in final orbit yet

          • Spektr-R


          • IBEX or Interstellar Boundary Explorer

          • Geotail


          Here are there IDs:




          name        SMA         ID
          -------- ----- ---------
          TESS 43435 2018-038A
          Spektr-R 37755 2011-037A
          IBEX 33401 2008-051A
          Geotail 22049 1992-044A


          Here is a quick breakdown of these four "highest of the highs" candidates. There are going to be others as well. It's a diverse group of reasons, there is not going to be one single reason beyond getting far from Earth.



          TESS



          TESS needs to be far from the Earth most of the time to keep the Earth "out of the picture". From Wikipedia:




          In order to obtain unobstructed imagery of both the northern and southern hemispheres of the sky, TESS will utilize a 2:1 lunar resonant orbit called P/2, an orbit that has never been used before (although IBEX uses a similar P/3 orbit)




          IBEX



          From Wikipedia:




          This very high orbit allows the IBEX satellite to move out of the Earth's magnetosphere when making scientific observations. This extreme altitude is critical due to the amount of charged-particle interference that would occur while taking measurements within the magnetosphere. When within the magnetosphere of the Earth (70,000 km or 43,000 mi), the satellite also performs other functions, including telemetry downlinks.




          Geotail



          From Wikipedia:




          The primary purpose of this mission is to study the structure and dynamics of the tail region of the magnetosphere with a comprehensive set of scientific instruments. For this purpose, the orbit has been designed to cover the magnetotail over a wide range of distances: 8 R⊕ to 210 R⊕ from the earth. This orbit also allows us to study the boundary region of the magnetosphere as it skims the magnetopause at perigees. In the first two years the double lunar swing-by technique was used to keep apogees in the distant magnetotail. The apogee was lowered down to 50 R⊕ in mid November 1994 and then to 30 R⊕ in February 1995 in order to study substorm processes in the near-Earth tail region. The present orbit is 9 R⊕ × 30 R⊕ with inclination of -7° to the ecliptic plane."




          Spektr-R



          From Wikipedia:



          Spektr-R's orbit allows it to get as far from Earth as possible in order to produce a long baseline for Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI)




          Spektr-R[6] (or RadioAstron) is a Russian scientific satellite with a 10 m (33 ft) radio telescope on board. It was launched on 18 July 2011,[7] by Zenit-3F launcher, from Baikonur Cosmodrome to perform research on the structure and dynamics of radio sources within and beyond our galaxy. Together with some of the largest ground-based radio telescopes, this telescope forms interferometric baselines extending up to 350,000 km (220,000 mi).







          share|improve this answer




























            up vote
            2
            down vote













            One of the biggest ones is TESS, which is using a specific orbit to avoid gravitational interactions with the moon to observe deep space, specifically to look for planets. A few other things that can be done are observing the magnetic field of the Earth, which can be from a very high distance. They could be used to get a fuller picture of the Earth for events that don't require high resolution, such as monitoring nuclear weapons testing.






            share|improve this answer























            • Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Nov 30 at 20:38








            • 6




              TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
              – uhoh
              Nov 30 at 23:25


















            up vote
            0
            down vote













            You could go visit the various Earth-Moon Lagrange points.



            enter image description here






            share|improve this answer























            • To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
              – Roger
              Nov 30 at 20:31






            • 1




              That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Nov 30 at 20:32








            • 2




              @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
              – uhoh
              Nov 30 at 23:33










            • @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Dec 3 at 13:50










            • @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
              – uhoh
              Dec 3 at 14:06













            Your Answer





            StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
            return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
            StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
            StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
            });
            });
            }, "mathjax-editing");

            StackExchange.ready(function() {
            var channelOptions = {
            tags: "".split(" "),
            id: "508"
            };
            initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

            StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
            // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
            if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
            StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
            createEditor();
            });
            }
            else {
            createEditor();
            }
            });

            function createEditor() {
            StackExchange.prepareEditor({
            heartbeatType: 'answer',
            convertImagesToLinks: false,
            noModals: true,
            showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
            reputationToPostImages: null,
            bindNavPrevention: true,
            postfix: "",
            imageUploader: {
            brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
            contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
            allowUrls: true
            },
            noCode: true, onDemand: true,
            discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
            ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
            });


            }
            });














            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fspace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f32461%2fwhat-could-a-high-earth-orbit-be-used-for-in-practice%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown

























            4 Answers
            4






            active

            oldest

            votes








            4 Answers
            4






            active

            oldest

            votes









            active

            oldest

            votes






            active

            oldest

            votes








            up vote
            4
            down vote













            There are a few other VELA and Explorer satellites, 2 SOLRAD missions and the Japanese GEOTAIL mission from 1992:



            | CatalogNum | SatName              | IntlDes   | Country | Launch     | Site  | Inclination | Apogee | Perigee | Period  |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+
            | 2258 | EXPLORER 33 (AIMP-D) | 1966-058A | US | 1966-07-01 | AFETR | 24.14 | 480762 | 265679 | 38792.4 |
            | 6197 | EXPLORER 47 (IMP-7) | 1972-073A | US | 1972-09-23 | AFETR | 13.97 | 232222 | 204011 | 17642.9 |
            | 6893 | EXPLORER 50 (IMP-8) | 1973-078A | US | 1973-10-26 | AFETR | 50.55 | 253706 | 181001 | 17553 |
            | 8748 | SOLRAD 11A | 1976-023C | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119054 | 117941 | 7319.39 |
            | 8749 | SOLRAD 11B | 1976-023D | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119521 | 117905 | 7338.38 |
            | 2766 | OPS 6679 (VELA 8) | 1967-040B | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 37.17 | 123849 | 99054 | 6708.75 |
            | 3955 | OPS 6911 (VELA 10) | 1969-046E | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 61.05 | 150634 | 72080 | 6700.68 |
            | 1459 | OPS 6564 (VELA 6) | 1965-058B | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 13.12 | 167834 | 55198 | 6714.3 |
            | 2765 | OPS 6638 (VELA 7) | 1967-040A | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 9.58 | 167787 | 55166 | 6710.88 |
            | 1458 | OPS 6577 (VELA 5) | 1965-058A | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 22.61 | 171865 | 51411 | 6724.69 |
            | 22049 | GEOTAIL | 1992-044A | JPN | 1992-07-24 | AFETR | 12.19 | 190602 | 50635 | 7506.67 |
            | 836 | OPS 3662 (VELA 3) | 1964-040A | US | 1964-07-17 | AFETR | 75.71 | 161013 | 45586 | 6024.72 |
            | 3954 | OPS 6909 (VELA 9) | 1969-046D | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 51.79 | 178487 | 44067 | 6693.89 |
            | 33401 | IBEX | 2008-051A | US | 2008-10-19 | WRAS | 30.22 | 333432 | 43051 | 14240.9 |
            | 674 | VELA 2 | 1963-039A | US | 1963-10-17 | AFETR | 26.69 | 177085 | 40568 | 6485.83 |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+


            Be careful in using the acronym HEO - in some communities this means Highly Eccentric Orbit






            share|improve this answer





















            • wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Nov 30 at 20:17










            • There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
              – CoAstroGeek
              Nov 30 at 21:33










            • Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 5:56










            • Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
              – The_Sympathizer
              Dec 1 at 5:57










            • Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 6:01















            up vote
            4
            down vote













            There are a few other VELA and Explorer satellites, 2 SOLRAD missions and the Japanese GEOTAIL mission from 1992:



            | CatalogNum | SatName              | IntlDes   | Country | Launch     | Site  | Inclination | Apogee | Perigee | Period  |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+
            | 2258 | EXPLORER 33 (AIMP-D) | 1966-058A | US | 1966-07-01 | AFETR | 24.14 | 480762 | 265679 | 38792.4 |
            | 6197 | EXPLORER 47 (IMP-7) | 1972-073A | US | 1972-09-23 | AFETR | 13.97 | 232222 | 204011 | 17642.9 |
            | 6893 | EXPLORER 50 (IMP-8) | 1973-078A | US | 1973-10-26 | AFETR | 50.55 | 253706 | 181001 | 17553 |
            | 8748 | SOLRAD 11A | 1976-023C | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119054 | 117941 | 7319.39 |
            | 8749 | SOLRAD 11B | 1976-023D | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119521 | 117905 | 7338.38 |
            | 2766 | OPS 6679 (VELA 8) | 1967-040B | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 37.17 | 123849 | 99054 | 6708.75 |
            | 3955 | OPS 6911 (VELA 10) | 1969-046E | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 61.05 | 150634 | 72080 | 6700.68 |
            | 1459 | OPS 6564 (VELA 6) | 1965-058B | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 13.12 | 167834 | 55198 | 6714.3 |
            | 2765 | OPS 6638 (VELA 7) | 1967-040A | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 9.58 | 167787 | 55166 | 6710.88 |
            | 1458 | OPS 6577 (VELA 5) | 1965-058A | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 22.61 | 171865 | 51411 | 6724.69 |
            | 22049 | GEOTAIL | 1992-044A | JPN | 1992-07-24 | AFETR | 12.19 | 190602 | 50635 | 7506.67 |
            | 836 | OPS 3662 (VELA 3) | 1964-040A | US | 1964-07-17 | AFETR | 75.71 | 161013 | 45586 | 6024.72 |
            | 3954 | OPS 6909 (VELA 9) | 1969-046D | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 51.79 | 178487 | 44067 | 6693.89 |
            | 33401 | IBEX | 2008-051A | US | 2008-10-19 | WRAS | 30.22 | 333432 | 43051 | 14240.9 |
            | 674 | VELA 2 | 1963-039A | US | 1963-10-17 | AFETR | 26.69 | 177085 | 40568 | 6485.83 |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+


            Be careful in using the acronym HEO - in some communities this means Highly Eccentric Orbit






            share|improve this answer





















            • wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Nov 30 at 20:17










            • There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
              – CoAstroGeek
              Nov 30 at 21:33










            • Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 5:56










            • Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
              – The_Sympathizer
              Dec 1 at 5:57










            • Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 6:01













            up vote
            4
            down vote










            up vote
            4
            down vote









            There are a few other VELA and Explorer satellites, 2 SOLRAD missions and the Japanese GEOTAIL mission from 1992:



            | CatalogNum | SatName              | IntlDes   | Country | Launch     | Site  | Inclination | Apogee | Perigee | Period  |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+
            | 2258 | EXPLORER 33 (AIMP-D) | 1966-058A | US | 1966-07-01 | AFETR | 24.14 | 480762 | 265679 | 38792.4 |
            | 6197 | EXPLORER 47 (IMP-7) | 1972-073A | US | 1972-09-23 | AFETR | 13.97 | 232222 | 204011 | 17642.9 |
            | 6893 | EXPLORER 50 (IMP-8) | 1973-078A | US | 1973-10-26 | AFETR | 50.55 | 253706 | 181001 | 17553 |
            | 8748 | SOLRAD 11A | 1976-023C | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119054 | 117941 | 7319.39 |
            | 8749 | SOLRAD 11B | 1976-023D | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119521 | 117905 | 7338.38 |
            | 2766 | OPS 6679 (VELA 8) | 1967-040B | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 37.17 | 123849 | 99054 | 6708.75 |
            | 3955 | OPS 6911 (VELA 10) | 1969-046E | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 61.05 | 150634 | 72080 | 6700.68 |
            | 1459 | OPS 6564 (VELA 6) | 1965-058B | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 13.12 | 167834 | 55198 | 6714.3 |
            | 2765 | OPS 6638 (VELA 7) | 1967-040A | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 9.58 | 167787 | 55166 | 6710.88 |
            | 1458 | OPS 6577 (VELA 5) | 1965-058A | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 22.61 | 171865 | 51411 | 6724.69 |
            | 22049 | GEOTAIL | 1992-044A | JPN | 1992-07-24 | AFETR | 12.19 | 190602 | 50635 | 7506.67 |
            | 836 | OPS 3662 (VELA 3) | 1964-040A | US | 1964-07-17 | AFETR | 75.71 | 161013 | 45586 | 6024.72 |
            | 3954 | OPS 6909 (VELA 9) | 1969-046D | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 51.79 | 178487 | 44067 | 6693.89 |
            | 33401 | IBEX | 2008-051A | US | 2008-10-19 | WRAS | 30.22 | 333432 | 43051 | 14240.9 |
            | 674 | VELA 2 | 1963-039A | US | 1963-10-17 | AFETR | 26.69 | 177085 | 40568 | 6485.83 |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+


            Be careful in using the acronym HEO - in some communities this means Highly Eccentric Orbit






            share|improve this answer












            There are a few other VELA and Explorer satellites, 2 SOLRAD missions and the Japanese GEOTAIL mission from 1992:



            | CatalogNum | SatName              | IntlDes   | Country | Launch     | Site  | Inclination | Apogee | Perigee | Period  |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+
            | 2258 | EXPLORER 33 (AIMP-D) | 1966-058A | US | 1966-07-01 | AFETR | 24.14 | 480762 | 265679 | 38792.4 |
            | 6197 | EXPLORER 47 (IMP-7) | 1972-073A | US | 1972-09-23 | AFETR | 13.97 | 232222 | 204011 | 17642.9 |
            | 6893 | EXPLORER 50 (IMP-8) | 1973-078A | US | 1973-10-26 | AFETR | 50.55 | 253706 | 181001 | 17553 |
            | 8748 | SOLRAD 11A | 1976-023C | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119054 | 117941 | 7319.39 |
            | 8749 | SOLRAD 11B | 1976-023D | US | 1976-03-15 | AFETR | 27.33 | 119521 | 117905 | 7338.38 |
            | 2766 | OPS 6679 (VELA 8) | 1967-040B | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 37.17 | 123849 | 99054 | 6708.75 |
            | 3955 | OPS 6911 (VELA 10) | 1969-046E | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 61.05 | 150634 | 72080 | 6700.68 |
            | 1459 | OPS 6564 (VELA 6) | 1965-058B | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 13.12 | 167834 | 55198 | 6714.3 |
            | 2765 | OPS 6638 (VELA 7) | 1967-040A | US | 1967-04-28 | AFETR | 9.58 | 167787 | 55166 | 6710.88 |
            | 1458 | OPS 6577 (VELA 5) | 1965-058A | US | 1965-07-20 | AFETR | 22.61 | 171865 | 51411 | 6724.69 |
            | 22049 | GEOTAIL | 1992-044A | JPN | 1992-07-24 | AFETR | 12.19 | 190602 | 50635 | 7506.67 |
            | 836 | OPS 3662 (VELA 3) | 1964-040A | US | 1964-07-17 | AFETR | 75.71 | 161013 | 45586 | 6024.72 |
            | 3954 | OPS 6909 (VELA 9) | 1969-046D | US | 1969-05-23 | AFETR | 51.79 | 178487 | 44067 | 6693.89 |
            | 33401 | IBEX | 2008-051A | US | 2008-10-19 | WRAS | 30.22 | 333432 | 43051 | 14240.9 |
            | 674 | VELA 2 | 1963-039A | US | 1963-10-17 | AFETR | 26.69 | 177085 | 40568 | 6485.83 |
            +------------+----------------------+-----------+---------+------------+-------+-------------+--------+---------+---------+


            Be careful in using the acronym HEO - in some communities this means Highly Eccentric Orbit







            share|improve this answer












            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer










            answered Nov 30 at 19:50









            CoAstroGeek

            1,433614




            1,433614












            • wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Nov 30 at 20:17










            • There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
              – CoAstroGeek
              Nov 30 at 21:33










            • Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 5:56










            • Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
              – The_Sympathizer
              Dec 1 at 5:57










            • Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 6:01


















            • wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
              – Magic Octopus Urn
              Nov 30 at 20:17










            • There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
              – CoAstroGeek
              Nov 30 at 21:33










            • Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 5:56










            • Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
              – The_Sympathizer
              Dec 1 at 5:57










            • Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
              – amI
              Dec 1 at 6:01
















            wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
            – Magic Octopus Urn
            Nov 30 at 20:17




            wow, thanks for the additional research materials. Also, I've changed the title a bit ago as I made the same realization that it's a double-edge-acronym :).
            – Magic Octopus Urn
            Nov 30 at 20:17












            There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
            – CoAstroGeek
            Nov 30 at 21:33




            There are a few rocket bodies up there also that I stripped out of the results.
            – CoAstroGeek
            Nov 30 at 21:33












            Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
            – amI
            Dec 1 at 5:56




            Aren't all those orbits in the Van Allen Belt (problematic unless studying the radiation)?
            – amI
            Dec 1 at 5:56












            Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
            – The_Sympathizer
            Dec 1 at 5:57




            Units would be good on that. Are those distances km? The times in seconds? Because 38.7 ks seems awfully short for the orbit with semi-major axis around 370 000 km. That's comparable to the Moon, and its orbital period (the sidereal month) is about 2.4 Ms, or 2400 ks.
            – The_Sympathizer
            Dec 1 at 5:57












            Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
            – amI
            Dec 1 at 6:01




            Ignore my comment -- I misread the magnitudes.
            – amI
            Dec 1 at 6:01










            up vote
            3
            down vote













            Borrowed from this answer to the question What artificial satellite has the farthest orbit around the Earth?. You can read more about their orbits in that answer.




            I found the following "far out" spacecraft:





            • TESS (Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite) recently launched, not in final orbit yet

            • Spektr-R


            • IBEX or Interstellar Boundary Explorer

            • Geotail


            Here are there IDs:




            name        SMA         ID
            -------- ----- ---------
            TESS 43435 2018-038A
            Spektr-R 37755 2011-037A
            IBEX 33401 2008-051A
            Geotail 22049 1992-044A


            Here is a quick breakdown of these four "highest of the highs" candidates. There are going to be others as well. It's a diverse group of reasons, there is not going to be one single reason beyond getting far from Earth.



            TESS



            TESS needs to be far from the Earth most of the time to keep the Earth "out of the picture". From Wikipedia:




            In order to obtain unobstructed imagery of both the northern and southern hemispheres of the sky, TESS will utilize a 2:1 lunar resonant orbit called P/2, an orbit that has never been used before (although IBEX uses a similar P/3 orbit)




            IBEX



            From Wikipedia:




            This very high orbit allows the IBEX satellite to move out of the Earth's magnetosphere when making scientific observations. This extreme altitude is critical due to the amount of charged-particle interference that would occur while taking measurements within the magnetosphere. When within the magnetosphere of the Earth (70,000 km or 43,000 mi), the satellite also performs other functions, including telemetry downlinks.




            Geotail



            From Wikipedia:




            The primary purpose of this mission is to study the structure and dynamics of the tail region of the magnetosphere with a comprehensive set of scientific instruments. For this purpose, the orbit has been designed to cover the magnetotail over a wide range of distances: 8 R⊕ to 210 R⊕ from the earth. This orbit also allows us to study the boundary region of the magnetosphere as it skims the magnetopause at perigees. In the first two years the double lunar swing-by technique was used to keep apogees in the distant magnetotail. The apogee was lowered down to 50 R⊕ in mid November 1994 and then to 30 R⊕ in February 1995 in order to study substorm processes in the near-Earth tail region. The present orbit is 9 R⊕ × 30 R⊕ with inclination of -7° to the ecliptic plane."




            Spektr-R



            From Wikipedia:



            Spektr-R's orbit allows it to get as far from Earth as possible in order to produce a long baseline for Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI)




            Spektr-R[6] (or RadioAstron) is a Russian scientific satellite with a 10 m (33 ft) radio telescope on board. It was launched on 18 July 2011,[7] by Zenit-3F launcher, from Baikonur Cosmodrome to perform research on the structure and dynamics of radio sources within and beyond our galaxy. Together with some of the largest ground-based radio telescopes, this telescope forms interferometric baselines extending up to 350,000 km (220,000 mi).







            share|improve this answer

























              up vote
              3
              down vote













              Borrowed from this answer to the question What artificial satellite has the farthest orbit around the Earth?. You can read more about their orbits in that answer.




              I found the following "far out" spacecraft:





              • TESS (Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite) recently launched, not in final orbit yet

              • Spektr-R


              • IBEX or Interstellar Boundary Explorer

              • Geotail


              Here are there IDs:




              name        SMA         ID
              -------- ----- ---------
              TESS 43435 2018-038A
              Spektr-R 37755 2011-037A
              IBEX 33401 2008-051A
              Geotail 22049 1992-044A


              Here is a quick breakdown of these four "highest of the highs" candidates. There are going to be others as well. It's a diverse group of reasons, there is not going to be one single reason beyond getting far from Earth.



              TESS



              TESS needs to be far from the Earth most of the time to keep the Earth "out of the picture". From Wikipedia:




              In order to obtain unobstructed imagery of both the northern and southern hemispheres of the sky, TESS will utilize a 2:1 lunar resonant orbit called P/2, an orbit that has never been used before (although IBEX uses a similar P/3 orbit)




              IBEX



              From Wikipedia:




              This very high orbit allows the IBEX satellite to move out of the Earth's magnetosphere when making scientific observations. This extreme altitude is critical due to the amount of charged-particle interference that would occur while taking measurements within the magnetosphere. When within the magnetosphere of the Earth (70,000 km or 43,000 mi), the satellite also performs other functions, including telemetry downlinks.




              Geotail



              From Wikipedia:




              The primary purpose of this mission is to study the structure and dynamics of the tail region of the magnetosphere with a comprehensive set of scientific instruments. For this purpose, the orbit has been designed to cover the magnetotail over a wide range of distances: 8 R⊕ to 210 R⊕ from the earth. This orbit also allows us to study the boundary region of the magnetosphere as it skims the magnetopause at perigees. In the first two years the double lunar swing-by technique was used to keep apogees in the distant magnetotail. The apogee was lowered down to 50 R⊕ in mid November 1994 and then to 30 R⊕ in February 1995 in order to study substorm processes in the near-Earth tail region. The present orbit is 9 R⊕ × 30 R⊕ with inclination of -7° to the ecliptic plane."




              Spektr-R



              From Wikipedia:



              Spektr-R's orbit allows it to get as far from Earth as possible in order to produce a long baseline for Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI)




              Spektr-R[6] (or RadioAstron) is a Russian scientific satellite with a 10 m (33 ft) radio telescope on board. It was launched on 18 July 2011,[7] by Zenit-3F launcher, from Baikonur Cosmodrome to perform research on the structure and dynamics of radio sources within and beyond our galaxy. Together with some of the largest ground-based radio telescopes, this telescope forms interferometric baselines extending up to 350,000 km (220,000 mi).







              share|improve this answer























                up vote
                3
                down vote










                up vote
                3
                down vote









                Borrowed from this answer to the question What artificial satellite has the farthest orbit around the Earth?. You can read more about their orbits in that answer.




                I found the following "far out" spacecraft:





                • TESS (Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite) recently launched, not in final orbit yet

                • Spektr-R


                • IBEX or Interstellar Boundary Explorer

                • Geotail


                Here are there IDs:




                name        SMA         ID
                -------- ----- ---------
                TESS 43435 2018-038A
                Spektr-R 37755 2011-037A
                IBEX 33401 2008-051A
                Geotail 22049 1992-044A


                Here is a quick breakdown of these four "highest of the highs" candidates. There are going to be others as well. It's a diverse group of reasons, there is not going to be one single reason beyond getting far from Earth.



                TESS



                TESS needs to be far from the Earth most of the time to keep the Earth "out of the picture". From Wikipedia:




                In order to obtain unobstructed imagery of both the northern and southern hemispheres of the sky, TESS will utilize a 2:1 lunar resonant orbit called P/2, an orbit that has never been used before (although IBEX uses a similar P/3 orbit)




                IBEX



                From Wikipedia:




                This very high orbit allows the IBEX satellite to move out of the Earth's magnetosphere when making scientific observations. This extreme altitude is critical due to the amount of charged-particle interference that would occur while taking measurements within the magnetosphere. When within the magnetosphere of the Earth (70,000 km or 43,000 mi), the satellite also performs other functions, including telemetry downlinks.




                Geotail



                From Wikipedia:




                The primary purpose of this mission is to study the structure and dynamics of the tail region of the magnetosphere with a comprehensive set of scientific instruments. For this purpose, the orbit has been designed to cover the magnetotail over a wide range of distances: 8 R⊕ to 210 R⊕ from the earth. This orbit also allows us to study the boundary region of the magnetosphere as it skims the magnetopause at perigees. In the first two years the double lunar swing-by technique was used to keep apogees in the distant magnetotail. The apogee was lowered down to 50 R⊕ in mid November 1994 and then to 30 R⊕ in February 1995 in order to study substorm processes in the near-Earth tail region. The present orbit is 9 R⊕ × 30 R⊕ with inclination of -7° to the ecliptic plane."




                Spektr-R



                From Wikipedia:



                Spektr-R's orbit allows it to get as far from Earth as possible in order to produce a long baseline for Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI)




                Spektr-R[6] (or RadioAstron) is a Russian scientific satellite with a 10 m (33 ft) radio telescope on board. It was launched on 18 July 2011,[7] by Zenit-3F launcher, from Baikonur Cosmodrome to perform research on the structure and dynamics of radio sources within and beyond our galaxy. Together with some of the largest ground-based radio telescopes, this telescope forms interferometric baselines extending up to 350,000 km (220,000 mi).







                share|improve this answer












                Borrowed from this answer to the question What artificial satellite has the farthest orbit around the Earth?. You can read more about their orbits in that answer.




                I found the following "far out" spacecraft:





                • TESS (Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite) recently launched, not in final orbit yet

                • Spektr-R


                • IBEX or Interstellar Boundary Explorer

                • Geotail


                Here are there IDs:




                name        SMA         ID
                -------- ----- ---------
                TESS 43435 2018-038A
                Spektr-R 37755 2011-037A
                IBEX 33401 2008-051A
                Geotail 22049 1992-044A


                Here is a quick breakdown of these four "highest of the highs" candidates. There are going to be others as well. It's a diverse group of reasons, there is not going to be one single reason beyond getting far from Earth.



                TESS



                TESS needs to be far from the Earth most of the time to keep the Earth "out of the picture". From Wikipedia:




                In order to obtain unobstructed imagery of both the northern and southern hemispheres of the sky, TESS will utilize a 2:1 lunar resonant orbit called P/2, an orbit that has never been used before (although IBEX uses a similar P/3 orbit)




                IBEX



                From Wikipedia:




                This very high orbit allows the IBEX satellite to move out of the Earth's magnetosphere when making scientific observations. This extreme altitude is critical due to the amount of charged-particle interference that would occur while taking measurements within the magnetosphere. When within the magnetosphere of the Earth (70,000 km or 43,000 mi), the satellite also performs other functions, including telemetry downlinks.




                Geotail



                From Wikipedia:




                The primary purpose of this mission is to study the structure and dynamics of the tail region of the magnetosphere with a comprehensive set of scientific instruments. For this purpose, the orbit has been designed to cover the magnetotail over a wide range of distances: 8 R⊕ to 210 R⊕ from the earth. This orbit also allows us to study the boundary region of the magnetosphere as it skims the magnetopause at perigees. In the first two years the double lunar swing-by technique was used to keep apogees in the distant magnetotail. The apogee was lowered down to 50 R⊕ in mid November 1994 and then to 30 R⊕ in February 1995 in order to study substorm processes in the near-Earth tail region. The present orbit is 9 R⊕ × 30 R⊕ with inclination of -7° to the ecliptic plane."




                Spektr-R



                From Wikipedia:



                Spektr-R's orbit allows it to get as far from Earth as possible in order to produce a long baseline for Very Long Baseline Interferometry (VLBI)




                Spektr-R[6] (or RadioAstron) is a Russian scientific satellite with a 10 m (33 ft) radio telescope on board. It was launched on 18 July 2011,[7] by Zenit-3F launcher, from Baikonur Cosmodrome to perform research on the structure and dynamics of radio sources within and beyond our galaxy. Together with some of the largest ground-based radio telescopes, this telescope forms interferometric baselines extending up to 350,000 km (220,000 mi).








                share|improve this answer












                share|improve this answer



                share|improve this answer










                answered Nov 30 at 23:47









                uhoh

                34.4k17117420




                34.4k17117420






















                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote













                    One of the biggest ones is TESS, which is using a specific orbit to avoid gravitational interactions with the moon to observe deep space, specifically to look for planets. A few other things that can be done are observing the magnetic field of the Earth, which can be from a very high distance. They could be used to get a fuller picture of the Earth for events that don't require high resolution, such as monitoring nuclear weapons testing.






                    share|improve this answer























                    • Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:38








                    • 6




                      TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:25















                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote













                    One of the biggest ones is TESS, which is using a specific orbit to avoid gravitational interactions with the moon to observe deep space, specifically to look for planets. A few other things that can be done are observing the magnetic field of the Earth, which can be from a very high distance. They could be used to get a fuller picture of the Earth for events that don't require high resolution, such as monitoring nuclear weapons testing.






                    share|improve this answer























                    • Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:38








                    • 6




                      TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:25













                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    2
                    down vote









                    One of the biggest ones is TESS, which is using a specific orbit to avoid gravitational interactions with the moon to observe deep space, specifically to look for planets. A few other things that can be done are observing the magnetic field of the Earth, which can be from a very high distance. They could be used to get a fuller picture of the Earth for events that don't require high resolution, such as monitoring nuclear weapons testing.






                    share|improve this answer














                    One of the biggest ones is TESS, which is using a specific orbit to avoid gravitational interactions with the moon to observe deep space, specifically to look for planets. A few other things that can be done are observing the magnetic field of the Earth, which can be from a very high distance. They could be used to get a fuller picture of the Earth for events that don't require high resolution, such as monitoring nuclear weapons testing.







                    share|improve this answer














                    share|improve this answer



                    share|improve this answer








                    edited Nov 30 at 21:16

























                    answered Nov 30 at 20:07









                    PearsonArtPhoto

                    79.3k16226436




                    79.3k16226436












                    • Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:38








                    • 6




                      TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:25


















                    • Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:38








                    • 6




                      TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:25
















                    Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
                    – Magic Octopus Urn
                    Nov 30 at 20:38






                    Also, just a side-note, I figured TESS didn't put itself into the final orbit it was in. It used a lunar assist as seen in this graphic. So I'm guessing the delta V would be rather large without an assist. Answered most of my questions on my own with that picture and the Wiki page. Thanks for telling me about TESS, this is extremely cool.
                    – Magic Octopus Urn
                    Nov 30 at 20:38






                    6




                    6




                    TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
                    – uhoh
                    Nov 30 at 23:25




                    TESS' orbit is in 2:1 resonance with the Moon. It doesn't "avoid gravitational interactions with the moon" so much as it makes peace with them so that it's orbit remains fairly stable/repeatable over the lifetime of the mission.
                    – uhoh
                    Nov 30 at 23:25










                    up vote
                    0
                    down vote













                    You could go visit the various Earth-Moon Lagrange points.



                    enter image description here






                    share|improve this answer























                    • To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
                      – Roger
                      Nov 30 at 20:31






                    • 1




                      That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:32








                    • 2




                      @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:33










                    • @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Dec 3 at 13:50










                    • @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
                      – uhoh
                      Dec 3 at 14:06

















                    up vote
                    0
                    down vote













                    You could go visit the various Earth-Moon Lagrange points.



                    enter image description here






                    share|improve this answer























                    • To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
                      – Roger
                      Nov 30 at 20:31






                    • 1




                      That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:32








                    • 2




                      @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:33










                    • @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Dec 3 at 13:50










                    • @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
                      – uhoh
                      Dec 3 at 14:06















                    up vote
                    0
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    0
                    down vote









                    You could go visit the various Earth-Moon Lagrange points.



                    enter image description here






                    share|improve this answer














                    You could go visit the various Earth-Moon Lagrange points.



                    enter image description here







                    share|improve this answer














                    share|improve this answer



                    share|improve this answer








                    edited Nov 30 at 20:34









                    Magic Octopus Urn

                    2,34211139




                    2,34211139










                    answered Nov 30 at 20:30









                    Roger

                    799112




                    799112












                    • To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
                      – Roger
                      Nov 30 at 20:31






                    • 1




                      That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:32








                    • 2




                      @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:33










                    • @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Dec 3 at 13:50










                    • @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
                      – uhoh
                      Dec 3 at 14:06




















                    • To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
                      – Roger
                      Nov 30 at 20:31






                    • 1




                      That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Nov 30 at 20:32








                    • 2




                      @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
                      – uhoh
                      Nov 30 at 23:33










                    • @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
                      – Magic Octopus Urn
                      Dec 3 at 13:50










                    • @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
                      – uhoh
                      Dec 3 at 14:06


















                    To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
                    – Roger
                    Nov 30 at 20:31




                    To my shame, I'm not actually sure to what extent these even count as "Earth orbits", but I'm confident someone around here will shed some light on the topic.
                    – Roger
                    Nov 30 at 20:31




                    1




                    1




                    That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
                    – Magic Octopus Urn
                    Nov 30 at 20:32






                    That's technically a halo orbit around a lagrangian then, doesn't really fit High Earth Orbit, does it? (Genuine question) Haha, nice comment, exactly what I was going to say too, but I'm not an expert. I did forget those though, that's technically... I don't know, interesting addition. Added a picture for newer users to understand too. An orbit around L1 might fit the bill (unsure).
                    – Magic Octopus Urn
                    Nov 30 at 20:32






                    2




                    2




                    @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
                    – uhoh
                    Nov 30 at 23:33




                    @MagicOctopusUrn this is just a red circle with an arrow, drawn on a diagram, not a possible orbit. The frame of the drawing is already rotating. Halo orbits in the Earth-Moon system are orbits around the Earth, influenced by the Moon. When we draw them in rotating frames they look like they orbit around Lagrange points, but if you allow the frame to rotate, they are just wiggly orbits around earth. I think a halo orbit in the Earth-Moon system could be argued to be a kind of high Earth orbit, but HEO is just an arbitrary term so one could argue either way.
                    – uhoh
                    Nov 30 at 23:33












                    @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
                    – Magic Octopus Urn
                    Dec 3 at 13:50




                    @uhoh I'm thinking the red circle was intended to show the moons orbit.
                    – Magic Octopus Urn
                    Dec 3 at 13:50












                    @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
                    – uhoh
                    Dec 3 at 14:06






                    @MagicOctopusUrn that diagram only exists in a rotating frame, the moon "stays put" in that diagram. Those contour lines already contain the pseudopotential based on the pseudo-force called centrifugal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… So it doesn't make sense to draw an orbit on top of that diagram.
                    – uhoh
                    Dec 3 at 14:06




















                    draft saved

                    draft discarded




















































                    Thanks for contributing an answer to Space Exploration Stack Exchange!


                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                    But avoid



                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                    Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





                    Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


                    Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                    But avoid



                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                    draft saved


                    draft discarded














                    StackExchange.ready(
                    function () {
                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fspace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f32461%2fwhat-could-a-high-earth-orbit-be-used-for-in-practice%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                    }
                    );

                    Post as a guest















                    Required, but never shown





















































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown

































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown







                    Popular posts from this blog

                    Quarter-circle Tiles

                    build a pushdown automaton that recognizes the reverse language of a given pushdown automaton?

                    Mont Emei