What changes were done with Sailor Moon to make it heteronormative?
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I have a blur memory of watching Sailor Moon, American dub version and had no memory of any homosexual story arc or characters. But lately I got to know it was considered one of the only strong positive homosexual representation and had characters with lesbian and gay couples in prominent roles.
And while researching I got to know American version censored it a lot to remove any sign of homosexual representation but how it's achieved when main characters were also gay and lesbian? So what were all the changes done to achieve this?
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I have a blur memory of watching Sailor Moon, American dub version and had no memory of any homosexual story arc or characters. But lately I got to know it was considered one of the only strong positive homosexual representation and had characters with lesbian and gay couples in prominent roles.
And while researching I got to know American version censored it a lot to remove any sign of homosexual representation but how it's achieved when main characters were also gay and lesbian? So what were all the changes done to achieve this?
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I have a blur memory of watching Sailor Moon, American dub version and had no memory of any homosexual story arc or characters. But lately I got to know it was considered one of the only strong positive homosexual representation and had characters with lesbian and gay couples in prominent roles.
And while researching I got to know American version censored it a lot to remove any sign of homosexual representation but how it's achieved when main characters were also gay and lesbian? So what were all the changes done to achieve this?
censorship sailor-moon
I have a blur memory of watching Sailor Moon, American dub version and had no memory of any homosexual story arc or characters. But lately I got to know it was considered one of the only strong positive homosexual representation and had characters with lesbian and gay couples in prominent roles.
And while researching I got to know American version censored it a lot to remove any sign of homosexual representation but how it's achieved when main characters were also gay and lesbian? So what were all the changes done to achieve this?
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Following changes were done to remove homosexuality.
From Screenrant,
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus Went From Girlfriends To Cousins:
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were originally lesbian lovers in the Japanese version of Sailor Moon but the company changed it so the two referred to each other as cousins. Let the awkwardness ensue! The two act awfully close for "cousins," often holding hands and giving each other quite meaningful looks. So they went from a lesbian couple, a great example of positive LGBT representation in mainstream anime, to "platonic" cousins.
Interestingly, some dubs outside of the United States kept the relationship between the two alive but gave Sailor Uranus a male voice actor, trying to turn her into a male character. This may have made some viewers scratch their heads when the now male Uranus transformed into a Sailor Scout form, which came with a much more feminine physical appearance and skirt.
Zoisite Changed From A Gay Man To A Straight Woman:
Just like some dubs in other countries made Sailor Uranus male so she could continue her relationship with Neptune as a heterosexual couple, the English dub made Zoisite, one of Queen Beryl's warriors, change from a gay man to a straight female. In the Japanese version, he is lovers with another warrior under Queen Beryl's command, Kunzite. This relationship was actually a creation of the anime, since the original manga actually portrays the two to be as close as brothers and not lovers.
From The Gamer (emphasis mine),
In the original Japanese anime and manga series, Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune were always open about their lesbian relationship. Their romantic involvement is well-known to most anime fans. Though they both flirted with the other characters or men, at the end of the day, they love each other the most. They even go so far as to become parents to Sailor Saturn, calling themselves "papa" and "mama."
American censors changed the famous LBGT couple from being lesbians to straight. When speaking of first kisses, they both mention men. Michelle mentions kissing a boy named Brad in Junior High school, but during the flashback, it's a shadowy figure of Amara. Their relationship was changed from a lesbian couple to close cousins in the American localization. Incest was more acceptable to the censors than an LGBT relationship.
Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
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Following changes were done to remove homosexuality.
From Screenrant,
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus Went From Girlfriends To Cousins:
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were originally lesbian lovers in the Japanese version of Sailor Moon but the company changed it so the two referred to each other as cousins. Let the awkwardness ensue! The two act awfully close for "cousins," often holding hands and giving each other quite meaningful looks. So they went from a lesbian couple, a great example of positive LGBT representation in mainstream anime, to "platonic" cousins.
Interestingly, some dubs outside of the United States kept the relationship between the two alive but gave Sailor Uranus a male voice actor, trying to turn her into a male character. This may have made some viewers scratch their heads when the now male Uranus transformed into a Sailor Scout form, which came with a much more feminine physical appearance and skirt.
Zoisite Changed From A Gay Man To A Straight Woman:
Just like some dubs in other countries made Sailor Uranus male so she could continue her relationship with Neptune as a heterosexual couple, the English dub made Zoisite, one of Queen Beryl's warriors, change from a gay man to a straight female. In the Japanese version, he is lovers with another warrior under Queen Beryl's command, Kunzite. This relationship was actually a creation of the anime, since the original manga actually portrays the two to be as close as brothers and not lovers.
From The Gamer (emphasis mine),
In the original Japanese anime and manga series, Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune were always open about their lesbian relationship. Their romantic involvement is well-known to most anime fans. Though they both flirted with the other characters or men, at the end of the day, they love each other the most. They even go so far as to become parents to Sailor Saturn, calling themselves "papa" and "mama."
American censors changed the famous LBGT couple from being lesbians to straight. When speaking of first kisses, they both mention men. Michelle mentions kissing a boy named Brad in Junior High school, but during the flashback, it's a shadowy figure of Amara. Their relationship was changed from a lesbian couple to close cousins in the American localization. Incest was more acceptable to the censors than an LGBT relationship.
Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
add a comment |
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Following changes were done to remove homosexuality.
From Screenrant,
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus Went From Girlfriends To Cousins:
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were originally lesbian lovers in the Japanese version of Sailor Moon but the company changed it so the two referred to each other as cousins. Let the awkwardness ensue! The two act awfully close for "cousins," often holding hands and giving each other quite meaningful looks. So they went from a lesbian couple, a great example of positive LGBT representation in mainstream anime, to "platonic" cousins.
Interestingly, some dubs outside of the United States kept the relationship between the two alive but gave Sailor Uranus a male voice actor, trying to turn her into a male character. This may have made some viewers scratch their heads when the now male Uranus transformed into a Sailor Scout form, which came with a much more feminine physical appearance and skirt.
Zoisite Changed From A Gay Man To A Straight Woman:
Just like some dubs in other countries made Sailor Uranus male so she could continue her relationship with Neptune as a heterosexual couple, the English dub made Zoisite, one of Queen Beryl's warriors, change from a gay man to a straight female. In the Japanese version, he is lovers with another warrior under Queen Beryl's command, Kunzite. This relationship was actually a creation of the anime, since the original manga actually portrays the two to be as close as brothers and not lovers.
From The Gamer (emphasis mine),
In the original Japanese anime and manga series, Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune were always open about their lesbian relationship. Their romantic involvement is well-known to most anime fans. Though they both flirted with the other characters or men, at the end of the day, they love each other the most. They even go so far as to become parents to Sailor Saturn, calling themselves "papa" and "mama."
American censors changed the famous LBGT couple from being lesbians to straight. When speaking of first kisses, they both mention men. Michelle mentions kissing a boy named Brad in Junior High school, but during the flashback, it's a shadowy figure of Amara. Their relationship was changed from a lesbian couple to close cousins in the American localization. Incest was more acceptable to the censors than an LGBT relationship.
Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
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Following changes were done to remove homosexuality.
From Screenrant,
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus Went From Girlfriends To Cousins:
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were originally lesbian lovers in the Japanese version of Sailor Moon but the company changed it so the two referred to each other as cousins. Let the awkwardness ensue! The two act awfully close for "cousins," often holding hands and giving each other quite meaningful looks. So they went from a lesbian couple, a great example of positive LGBT representation in mainstream anime, to "platonic" cousins.
Interestingly, some dubs outside of the United States kept the relationship between the two alive but gave Sailor Uranus a male voice actor, trying to turn her into a male character. This may have made some viewers scratch their heads when the now male Uranus transformed into a Sailor Scout form, which came with a much more feminine physical appearance and skirt.
Zoisite Changed From A Gay Man To A Straight Woman:
Just like some dubs in other countries made Sailor Uranus male so she could continue her relationship with Neptune as a heterosexual couple, the English dub made Zoisite, one of Queen Beryl's warriors, change from a gay man to a straight female. In the Japanese version, he is lovers with another warrior under Queen Beryl's command, Kunzite. This relationship was actually a creation of the anime, since the original manga actually portrays the two to be as close as brothers and not lovers.
From The Gamer (emphasis mine),
In the original Japanese anime and manga series, Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune were always open about their lesbian relationship. Their romantic involvement is well-known to most anime fans. Though they both flirted with the other characters or men, at the end of the day, they love each other the most. They even go so far as to become parents to Sailor Saturn, calling themselves "papa" and "mama."
American censors changed the famous LBGT couple from being lesbians to straight. When speaking of first kisses, they both mention men. Michelle mentions kissing a boy named Brad in Junior High school, but during the flashback, it's a shadowy figure of Amara. Their relationship was changed from a lesbian couple to close cousins in the American localization. Incest was more acceptable to the censors than an LGBT relationship.
Following changes were done to remove homosexuality.
From Screenrant,
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus Went From Girlfriends To Cousins:
Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus were originally lesbian lovers in the Japanese version of Sailor Moon but the company changed it so the two referred to each other as cousins. Let the awkwardness ensue! The two act awfully close for "cousins," often holding hands and giving each other quite meaningful looks. So they went from a lesbian couple, a great example of positive LGBT representation in mainstream anime, to "platonic" cousins.
Interestingly, some dubs outside of the United States kept the relationship between the two alive but gave Sailor Uranus a male voice actor, trying to turn her into a male character. This may have made some viewers scratch their heads when the now male Uranus transformed into a Sailor Scout form, which came with a much more feminine physical appearance and skirt.
Zoisite Changed From A Gay Man To A Straight Woman:
Just like some dubs in other countries made Sailor Uranus male so she could continue her relationship with Neptune as a heterosexual couple, the English dub made Zoisite, one of Queen Beryl's warriors, change from a gay man to a straight female. In the Japanese version, he is lovers with another warrior under Queen Beryl's command, Kunzite. This relationship was actually a creation of the anime, since the original manga actually portrays the two to be as close as brothers and not lovers.
From The Gamer (emphasis mine),
In the original Japanese anime and manga series, Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune were always open about their lesbian relationship. Their romantic involvement is well-known to most anime fans. Though they both flirted with the other characters or men, at the end of the day, they love each other the most. They even go so far as to become parents to Sailor Saturn, calling themselves "papa" and "mama."
American censors changed the famous LBGT couple from being lesbians to straight. When speaking of first kisses, they both mention men. Michelle mentions kissing a boy named Brad in Junior High school, but during the flashback, it's a shadowy figure of Amara. Their relationship was changed from a lesbian couple to close cousins in the American localization. Incest was more acceptable to the censors than an LGBT relationship.
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Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
add a comment |
Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Really Incest is more acceptable in kids cartoon then homosexuality O.o
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
That's another level of weird I can relate with
– Ankit Sharma
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
Is it a fair comment that anyone who gets so upset by LGBTQ might actually be more likely to have married their cousin? ;)
– Tetsujin
1 hour ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
That comment about incest actually makes no sense, though. Either their relationship was replaced with being cousins, in which case there is no incest, or they were also made cousins (while still being in a relationship), which gives both. So in no case does incest replace an LGBT relationship.
– Angew
7 mins ago
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