Norm of a function on a set of measure $0$ and convergence of a sequence on a set of finite measure











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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}^n$ be a measurable set with finite Lebesgue measure, ${f_n}_{n∈N}$ be a sequence of measurable functions $f_n : E → mathbb{R}$, bounded in $L^p(E)$ for $p>1$, and pointwise converging to $f : E → mathbb{R}$ almost everywhere.



Since the sequence converge almost everywhere, consider the set $N_0$ of measure zero where the sequence does not converge, and $Esetminus N_0$ where the sequence converge. By Egorov theorem the sequence converges to $f$ uniformly on $Esetminus N_0$.



Study the convergence in $L^q(E)$ for $q∈(1,p)$:
begin{align*}
||f_n-f||_{L^q(E)}&le||f_n-f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)} \ &le ||f_n||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)}
end{align*}

I'd say that the first two norms in the rhs are $0$ since they are integrals on a set of measure $0$, but wouldn't this mean that $f_n$ converge to $f$ on $N_0$? But it is a contraddiction because we defined it as the set where the sequence does not converge, isn'it?



Moreover how to compute or bound the last norm on the rhs?










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    Egorov's Theorem does not say that the sequence converges uniformly on $N$. Your attempt to prove $L^{q}$ convergence completely fails.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 11:45










  • I didnt say that Egorov theorem implies convergence on $N_0$, I obtain that from my assumptions on the values of the norm. I know I'm wrong, that's why I'm here asking for help.
    – sound wave
    Nov 22 at 11:57










  • The result you are trying ti prove is true but it has a lengthy argument. Are you familiar with uniform integrability? You have to show that ${|f_n|^{q}}$ (and hence ${|f_n-f|^{q}}$) is uniformly integrable from which $L^{q}$ convergence follows.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 12:07

















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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}^n$ be a measurable set with finite Lebesgue measure, ${f_n}_{n∈N}$ be a sequence of measurable functions $f_n : E → mathbb{R}$, bounded in $L^p(E)$ for $p>1$, and pointwise converging to $f : E → mathbb{R}$ almost everywhere.



Since the sequence converge almost everywhere, consider the set $N_0$ of measure zero where the sequence does not converge, and $Esetminus N_0$ where the sequence converge. By Egorov theorem the sequence converges to $f$ uniformly on $Esetminus N_0$.



Study the convergence in $L^q(E)$ for $q∈(1,p)$:
begin{align*}
||f_n-f||_{L^q(E)}&le||f_n-f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)} \ &le ||f_n||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)}
end{align*}

I'd say that the first two norms in the rhs are $0$ since they are integrals on a set of measure $0$, but wouldn't this mean that $f_n$ converge to $f$ on $N_0$? But it is a contraddiction because we defined it as the set where the sequence does not converge, isn'it?



Moreover how to compute or bound the last norm on the rhs?










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    Egorov's Theorem does not say that the sequence converges uniformly on $N$. Your attempt to prove $L^{q}$ convergence completely fails.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 11:45










  • I didnt say that Egorov theorem implies convergence on $N_0$, I obtain that from my assumptions on the values of the norm. I know I'm wrong, that's why I'm here asking for help.
    – sound wave
    Nov 22 at 11:57










  • The result you are trying ti prove is true but it has a lengthy argument. Are you familiar with uniform integrability? You have to show that ${|f_n|^{q}}$ (and hence ${|f_n-f|^{q}}$) is uniformly integrable from which $L^{q}$ convergence follows.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 12:07















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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}^n$ be a measurable set with finite Lebesgue measure, ${f_n}_{n∈N}$ be a sequence of measurable functions $f_n : E → mathbb{R}$, bounded in $L^p(E)$ for $p>1$, and pointwise converging to $f : E → mathbb{R}$ almost everywhere.



Since the sequence converge almost everywhere, consider the set $N_0$ of measure zero where the sequence does not converge, and $Esetminus N_0$ where the sequence converge. By Egorov theorem the sequence converges to $f$ uniformly on $Esetminus N_0$.



Study the convergence in $L^q(E)$ for $q∈(1,p)$:
begin{align*}
||f_n-f||_{L^q(E)}&le||f_n-f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)} \ &le ||f_n||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)}
end{align*}

I'd say that the first two norms in the rhs are $0$ since they are integrals on a set of measure $0$, but wouldn't this mean that $f_n$ converge to $f$ on $N_0$? But it is a contraddiction because we defined it as the set where the sequence does not converge, isn'it?



Moreover how to compute or bound the last norm on the rhs?










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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}^n$ be a measurable set with finite Lebesgue measure, ${f_n}_{n∈N}$ be a sequence of measurable functions $f_n : E → mathbb{R}$, bounded in $L^p(E)$ for $p>1$, and pointwise converging to $f : E → mathbb{R}$ almost everywhere.



Since the sequence converge almost everywhere, consider the set $N_0$ of measure zero where the sequence does not converge, and $Esetminus N_0$ where the sequence converge. By Egorov theorem the sequence converges to $f$ uniformly on $Esetminus N_0$.



Study the convergence in $L^q(E)$ for $q∈(1,p)$:
begin{align*}
||f_n-f||_{L^q(E)}&le||f_n-f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)} \ &le ||f_n||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f||_{L^q(N_0)}+||f_n-f||_{L^q(Esetminus N_0)}
end{align*}

I'd say that the first two norms in the rhs are $0$ since they are integrals on a set of measure $0$, but wouldn't this mean that $f_n$ converge to $f$ on $N_0$? But it is a contraddiction because we defined it as the set where the sequence does not converge, isn'it?



Moreover how to compute or bound the last norm on the rhs?







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    Egorov's Theorem does not say that the sequence converges uniformly on $N$. Your attempt to prove $L^{q}$ convergence completely fails.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 11:45










  • I didnt say that Egorov theorem implies convergence on $N_0$, I obtain that from my assumptions on the values of the norm. I know I'm wrong, that's why I'm here asking for help.
    – sound wave
    Nov 22 at 11:57










  • The result you are trying ti prove is true but it has a lengthy argument. Are you familiar with uniform integrability? You have to show that ${|f_n|^{q}}$ (and hence ${|f_n-f|^{q}}$) is uniformly integrable from which $L^{q}$ convergence follows.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 12:07
















  • 1




    Egorov's Theorem does not say that the sequence converges uniformly on $N$. Your attempt to prove $L^{q}$ convergence completely fails.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 11:45










  • I didnt say that Egorov theorem implies convergence on $N_0$, I obtain that from my assumptions on the values of the norm. I know I'm wrong, that's why I'm here asking for help.
    – sound wave
    Nov 22 at 11:57










  • The result you are trying ti prove is true but it has a lengthy argument. Are you familiar with uniform integrability? You have to show that ${|f_n|^{q}}$ (and hence ${|f_n-f|^{q}}$) is uniformly integrable from which $L^{q}$ convergence follows.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 12:07










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Egorov's Theorem does not say that the sequence converges uniformly on $N$. Your attempt to prove $L^{q}$ convergence completely fails.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 11:45




Egorov's Theorem does not say that the sequence converges uniformly on $N$. Your attempt to prove $L^{q}$ convergence completely fails.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 11:45












I didnt say that Egorov theorem implies convergence on $N_0$, I obtain that from my assumptions on the values of the norm. I know I'm wrong, that's why I'm here asking for help.
– sound wave
Nov 22 at 11:57




I didnt say that Egorov theorem implies convergence on $N_0$, I obtain that from my assumptions on the values of the norm. I know I'm wrong, that's why I'm here asking for help.
– sound wave
Nov 22 at 11:57












The result you are trying ti prove is true but it has a lengthy argument. Are you familiar with uniform integrability? You have to show that ${|f_n|^{q}}$ (and hence ${|f_n-f|^{q}}$) is uniformly integrable from which $L^{q}$ convergence follows.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 12:07






The result you are trying ti prove is true but it has a lengthy argument. Are you familiar with uniform integrability? You have to show that ${|f_n|^{q}}$ (and hence ${|f_n-f|^{q}}$) is uniformly integrable from which $L^{q}$ convergence follows.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 12:07












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First, we note that Fatou's Lemma implies that $f in L^p(E)$. Now, we apply Egorov and obtain that for every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists a measurable set $M_varepsilon$ with $mu(M_varepsilon) le varepsilon$
such that $f_n$ converges uniformly to $f$ on $E setminus M_varepsilon$.
Now, we use the triangle inequality to get
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^q(Esetminus M_varepsilon)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

In the first addend, we can use Hölders inequality
(with $1/q = 1/p + 1/r$ for some $r in (1,infty)$) to obtain
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} le |1|_{L^r(M_varepsilon)} , |f_n - f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le varepsilon^{1/r} , (|f_n|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)}+|f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le C , varepsilon^{1/r}.$$
Thus,
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
C , varepsilon^{1/r}
+ |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

Hence, we can choose $N$ (depending on $varepsilon$) large enough such that
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
2 , C , varepsilon^{1/r}
qquadforall n ge N.$$



Hence, $f_n to f$ in $L^q(E)$. Note that this argument also works for $q = 1$.






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    This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 23:08






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    @KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
    – gerw
    Nov 23 at 7:43










  • @gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
    – sound wave
    Nov 27 at 12:28








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    @soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
    – gerw
    Nov 27 at 14:58








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    Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
    – gerw
    Nov 28 at 22:01











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First, we note that Fatou's Lemma implies that $f in L^p(E)$. Now, we apply Egorov and obtain that for every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists a measurable set $M_varepsilon$ with $mu(M_varepsilon) le varepsilon$
such that $f_n$ converges uniformly to $f$ on $E setminus M_varepsilon$.
Now, we use the triangle inequality to get
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^q(Esetminus M_varepsilon)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

In the first addend, we can use Hölders inequality
(with $1/q = 1/p + 1/r$ for some $r in (1,infty)$) to obtain
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} le |1|_{L^r(M_varepsilon)} , |f_n - f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le varepsilon^{1/r} , (|f_n|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)}+|f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le C , varepsilon^{1/r}.$$
Thus,
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
C , varepsilon^{1/r}
+ |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

Hence, we can choose $N$ (depending on $varepsilon$) large enough such that
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
2 , C , varepsilon^{1/r}
qquadforall n ge N.$$



Hence, $f_n to f$ in $L^q(E)$. Note that this argument also works for $q = 1$.






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    This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 23:08






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    @KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
    – gerw
    Nov 23 at 7:43










  • @gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
    – sound wave
    Nov 27 at 12:28








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    @soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
    – gerw
    Nov 27 at 14:58








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    Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
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First, we note that Fatou's Lemma implies that $f in L^p(E)$. Now, we apply Egorov and obtain that for every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists a measurable set $M_varepsilon$ with $mu(M_varepsilon) le varepsilon$
such that $f_n$ converges uniformly to $f$ on $E setminus M_varepsilon$.
Now, we use the triangle inequality to get
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^q(Esetminus M_varepsilon)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

In the first addend, we can use Hölders inequality
(with $1/q = 1/p + 1/r$ for some $r in (1,infty)$) to obtain
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} le |1|_{L^r(M_varepsilon)} , |f_n - f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le varepsilon^{1/r} , (|f_n|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)}+|f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le C , varepsilon^{1/r}.$$
Thus,
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
C , varepsilon^{1/r}
+ |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

Hence, we can choose $N$ (depending on $varepsilon$) large enough such that
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
2 , C , varepsilon^{1/r}
qquadforall n ge N.$$



Hence, $f_n to f$ in $L^q(E)$. Note that this argument also works for $q = 1$.






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    This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 23:08






  • 1




    @KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
    – gerw
    Nov 23 at 7:43










  • @gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
    – sound wave
    Nov 27 at 12:28








  • 1




    @soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
    – gerw
    Nov 27 at 14:58








  • 1




    Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
    – gerw
    Nov 28 at 22:01













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First, we note that Fatou's Lemma implies that $f in L^p(E)$. Now, we apply Egorov and obtain that for every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists a measurable set $M_varepsilon$ with $mu(M_varepsilon) le varepsilon$
such that $f_n$ converges uniformly to $f$ on $E setminus M_varepsilon$.
Now, we use the triangle inequality to get
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^q(Esetminus M_varepsilon)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

In the first addend, we can use Hölders inequality
(with $1/q = 1/p + 1/r$ for some $r in (1,infty)$) to obtain
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} le |1|_{L^r(M_varepsilon)} , |f_n - f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le varepsilon^{1/r} , (|f_n|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)}+|f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le C , varepsilon^{1/r}.$$
Thus,
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
C , varepsilon^{1/r}
+ |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

Hence, we can choose $N$ (depending on $varepsilon$) large enough such that
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
2 , C , varepsilon^{1/r}
qquadforall n ge N.$$



Hence, $f_n to f$ in $L^q(E)$. Note that this argument also works for $q = 1$.






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First, we note that Fatou's Lemma implies that $f in L^p(E)$. Now, we apply Egorov and obtain that for every $varepsilon > 0$, there exists a measurable set $M_varepsilon$ with $mu(M_varepsilon) le varepsilon$
such that $f_n$ converges uniformly to $f$ on $E setminus M_varepsilon$.
Now, we use the triangle inequality to get
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^q(Esetminus M_varepsilon)}
le |f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} + |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

In the first addend, we can use Hölders inequality
(with $1/q = 1/p + 1/r$ for some $r in (1,infty)$) to obtain
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(M_varepsilon)} le |1|_{L^r(M_varepsilon)} , |f_n - f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le varepsilon^{1/r} , (|f_n|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)}+|f|_{L^p(M_varepsilon)} le C , varepsilon^{1/r}.$$
Thus,
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
C , varepsilon^{1/r}
+ |f_n-f|_{L^infty(Esetminus M_varepsilon)} , mu(E)^{1/q}.$$

Hence, we can choose $N$ (depending on $varepsilon$) large enough such that
$$|f_n - f|_{L^q(E)}
le
2 , C , varepsilon^{1/r}
qquadforall n ge N.$$



Hence, $f_n to f$ in $L^q(E)$. Note that this argument also works for $q = 1$.







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    This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 23:08






  • 1




    @KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
    – gerw
    Nov 23 at 7:43










  • @gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
    – sound wave
    Nov 27 at 12:28








  • 1




    @soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
    – gerw
    Nov 27 at 14:58








  • 1




    Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
    – gerw
    Nov 28 at 22:01














  • 1




    This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 22 at 23:08






  • 1




    @KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
    – gerw
    Nov 23 at 7:43










  • @gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
    – sound wave
    Nov 27 at 12:28








  • 1




    @soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
    – gerw
    Nov 27 at 14:58








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    Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
    – gerw
    Nov 28 at 22:01








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This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 23:08




This proof is wrong. The hypothesis only gives pointwise convergence and boundedness of $L^{p}$ norms. How did you conclude that $f_n to f$ i n $L^{p}$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 23:08




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@KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
– gerw
Nov 23 at 7:43




@KaviRamaMurthy: Ups, I misread the assumptions. I will fix it.
– gerw
Nov 23 at 7:43












@gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
– sound wave
Nov 27 at 12:28






@gerw In the first line why did you write that the $L^q(E)$ norm of $f_n-f$ is less or equal than the sum of $L^q$ and $L^p$ norms? Should not be both $L^q$ norms?
– sound wave
Nov 27 at 12:28






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@soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
– gerw
Nov 27 at 14:58






@soundwave: Yes, both should be $L^q$ norms (changed). The second inequality using the simple bound $|g|_{L^q(C)}^q le int_C |g|^q , mathrm{d}x le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q , mu(C)$ together with $mu(Esetminus M_varepsilon) le mu(E)$.
– gerw
Nov 27 at 14:58






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Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
– gerw
Nov 28 at 22:01




Because $|g(x)|^q le |g|_{L^infty(C)}^q$ for a.a. $x in C$. Now you integrate this inequality over $C$. The right-hand side is a constant, hence it is multiplied by the measure of $C$.
– gerw
Nov 28 at 22:01


















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