Derivative of the matrix of eigenvalues of a real symmetric matrix











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Given a real symmetric matrix $A$ with entries depending on $t$, the derivative $p$-th eigenvalue with respect to $t$ is given by



$$
lambda_p' = v_p^T A'v_p
$$



where $A'$ denotes the derivative of matrix $A$. This can be derived by premultiplying
$$
A' v_p + A v_p' = lambda_p' v_p + lambda_p v_p'
$$



with $v_p^T$, imposing that the eigenvectors have unit length (and thus $v_p cdot v_p' = 0$), and making use of the fact that $A$ is symmetric.



Say I want to use the same approach on the eigendecomposition of $A$
$$
A V = V Lambda \
A'V + A V' = V' Lambda + V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + V^T V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + Lambda' \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + V^T A V' - V^T V' Lambda \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + Lambda V^T V' - V^T V' Lambda \
$$



also



$$
I' = (V^T V)' = {V^T}'V + V^T V' = 0
$$



However, I don't see how I could use this statement to simplify the earlier expression. I feel like I'm missing something really obvious.



How can I express the derivative of the matrix of eigenvalues $Lambda$ in terms of the derivative of $A$?










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  • Is $A$ a function of $t$, or something like that? I ask because you differentiate, but you do not specify with respect to what. Also "eigenvalues have unit length" makes no sense.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:20










  • Sorry, I edited the typo. Yes, for example the entries of $A$ could be a function of $t$ and we are taking the derivative with respect to $t$.
    – user495268
    Nov 22 at 11:24










  • It is much better to specify the dependence on $t$ in the main text. That's an important point.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:26












  • Now I finally understood your question. It is a nice one, +1. I have a semi-serious question; I suppose that $$Lambda'=mathrm{diag}(V_1^TA'V_1, V_2^TA'V_2,ldots, V_n^TA'V_n), $$ where $V_j$ denotes the $j$-th column of $V$, is not the answer you are looking for?
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:13












  • Oh, and wait a minute. If you impose that the eigenvectors are orthonormal, as you may since $A$ is symmetric, then $V$ is an orthogonal matrix, that is, $V^TV=I$. Differentiating this you should get something, just like in the beginning of the post you differentiated $v_icdot v_j=delta_{ij}$. (HTH)
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:15

















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Given a real symmetric matrix $A$ with entries depending on $t$, the derivative $p$-th eigenvalue with respect to $t$ is given by



$$
lambda_p' = v_p^T A'v_p
$$



where $A'$ denotes the derivative of matrix $A$. This can be derived by premultiplying
$$
A' v_p + A v_p' = lambda_p' v_p + lambda_p v_p'
$$



with $v_p^T$, imposing that the eigenvectors have unit length (and thus $v_p cdot v_p' = 0$), and making use of the fact that $A$ is symmetric.



Say I want to use the same approach on the eigendecomposition of $A$
$$
A V = V Lambda \
A'V + A V' = V' Lambda + V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + V^T V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + Lambda' \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + V^T A V' - V^T V' Lambda \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + Lambda V^T V' - V^T V' Lambda \
$$



also



$$
I' = (V^T V)' = {V^T}'V + V^T V' = 0
$$



However, I don't see how I could use this statement to simplify the earlier expression. I feel like I'm missing something really obvious.



How can I express the derivative of the matrix of eigenvalues $Lambda$ in terms of the derivative of $A$?










share|cite|improve this question
























  • Is $A$ a function of $t$, or something like that? I ask because you differentiate, but you do not specify with respect to what. Also "eigenvalues have unit length" makes no sense.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:20










  • Sorry, I edited the typo. Yes, for example the entries of $A$ could be a function of $t$ and we are taking the derivative with respect to $t$.
    – user495268
    Nov 22 at 11:24










  • It is much better to specify the dependence on $t$ in the main text. That's an important point.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:26












  • Now I finally understood your question. It is a nice one, +1. I have a semi-serious question; I suppose that $$Lambda'=mathrm{diag}(V_1^TA'V_1, V_2^TA'V_2,ldots, V_n^TA'V_n), $$ where $V_j$ denotes the $j$-th column of $V$, is not the answer you are looking for?
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:13












  • Oh, and wait a minute. If you impose that the eigenvectors are orthonormal, as you may since $A$ is symmetric, then $V$ is an orthogonal matrix, that is, $V^TV=I$. Differentiating this you should get something, just like in the beginning of the post you differentiated $v_icdot v_j=delta_{ij}$. (HTH)
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:15















up vote
2
down vote

favorite









up vote
2
down vote

favorite











Given a real symmetric matrix $A$ with entries depending on $t$, the derivative $p$-th eigenvalue with respect to $t$ is given by



$$
lambda_p' = v_p^T A'v_p
$$



where $A'$ denotes the derivative of matrix $A$. This can be derived by premultiplying
$$
A' v_p + A v_p' = lambda_p' v_p + lambda_p v_p'
$$



with $v_p^T$, imposing that the eigenvectors have unit length (and thus $v_p cdot v_p' = 0$), and making use of the fact that $A$ is symmetric.



Say I want to use the same approach on the eigendecomposition of $A$
$$
A V = V Lambda \
A'V + A V' = V' Lambda + V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + V^T V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + Lambda' \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + V^T A V' - V^T V' Lambda \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + Lambda V^T V' - V^T V' Lambda \
$$



also



$$
I' = (V^T V)' = {V^T}'V + V^T V' = 0
$$



However, I don't see how I could use this statement to simplify the earlier expression. I feel like I'm missing something really obvious.



How can I express the derivative of the matrix of eigenvalues $Lambda$ in terms of the derivative of $A$?










share|cite|improve this question















Given a real symmetric matrix $A$ with entries depending on $t$, the derivative $p$-th eigenvalue with respect to $t$ is given by



$$
lambda_p' = v_p^T A'v_p
$$



where $A'$ denotes the derivative of matrix $A$. This can be derived by premultiplying
$$
A' v_p + A v_p' = lambda_p' v_p + lambda_p v_p'
$$



with $v_p^T$, imposing that the eigenvectors have unit length (and thus $v_p cdot v_p' = 0$), and making use of the fact that $A$ is symmetric.



Say I want to use the same approach on the eigendecomposition of $A$
$$
A V = V Lambda \
A'V + A V' = V' Lambda + V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + V^T V Lambda' \
V^T A'V + V^T A V' = V^T V' Lambda + Lambda' \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + V^T A V' - V^T V' Lambda \
Lambda' = V^T A'V + Lambda V^T V' - V^T V' Lambda \
$$



also



$$
I' = (V^T V)' = {V^T}'V + V^T V' = 0
$$



However, I don't see how I could use this statement to simplify the earlier expression. I feel like I'm missing something really obvious.



How can I express the derivative of the matrix of eigenvalues $Lambda$ in terms of the derivative of $A$?







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  • Is $A$ a function of $t$, or something like that? I ask because you differentiate, but you do not specify with respect to what. Also "eigenvalues have unit length" makes no sense.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:20










  • Sorry, I edited the typo. Yes, for example the entries of $A$ could be a function of $t$ and we are taking the derivative with respect to $t$.
    – user495268
    Nov 22 at 11:24










  • It is much better to specify the dependence on $t$ in the main text. That's an important point.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:26












  • Now I finally understood your question. It is a nice one, +1. I have a semi-serious question; I suppose that $$Lambda'=mathrm{diag}(V_1^TA'V_1, V_2^TA'V_2,ldots, V_n^TA'V_n), $$ where $V_j$ denotes the $j$-th column of $V$, is not the answer you are looking for?
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:13












  • Oh, and wait a minute. If you impose that the eigenvectors are orthonormal, as you may since $A$ is symmetric, then $V$ is an orthogonal matrix, that is, $V^TV=I$. Differentiating this you should get something, just like in the beginning of the post you differentiated $v_icdot v_j=delta_{ij}$. (HTH)
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:15




















  • Is $A$ a function of $t$, or something like that? I ask because you differentiate, but you do not specify with respect to what. Also "eigenvalues have unit length" makes no sense.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:20










  • Sorry, I edited the typo. Yes, for example the entries of $A$ could be a function of $t$ and we are taking the derivative with respect to $t$.
    – user495268
    Nov 22 at 11:24










  • It is much better to specify the dependence on $t$ in the main text. That's an important point.
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 11:26












  • Now I finally understood your question. It is a nice one, +1. I have a semi-serious question; I suppose that $$Lambda'=mathrm{diag}(V_1^TA'V_1, V_2^TA'V_2,ldots, V_n^TA'V_n), $$ where $V_j$ denotes the $j$-th column of $V$, is not the answer you are looking for?
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:13












  • Oh, and wait a minute. If you impose that the eigenvectors are orthonormal, as you may since $A$ is symmetric, then $V$ is an orthogonal matrix, that is, $V^TV=I$. Differentiating this you should get something, just like in the beginning of the post you differentiated $v_icdot v_j=delta_{ij}$. (HTH)
    – Giuseppe Negro
    Nov 22 at 12:15


















Is $A$ a function of $t$, or something like that? I ask because you differentiate, but you do not specify with respect to what. Also "eigenvalues have unit length" makes no sense.
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 11:20




Is $A$ a function of $t$, or something like that? I ask because you differentiate, but you do not specify with respect to what. Also "eigenvalues have unit length" makes no sense.
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 11:20












Sorry, I edited the typo. Yes, for example the entries of $A$ could be a function of $t$ and we are taking the derivative with respect to $t$.
– user495268
Nov 22 at 11:24




Sorry, I edited the typo. Yes, for example the entries of $A$ could be a function of $t$ and we are taking the derivative with respect to $t$.
– user495268
Nov 22 at 11:24












It is much better to specify the dependence on $t$ in the main text. That's an important point.
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 11:26






It is much better to specify the dependence on $t$ in the main text. That's an important point.
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 11:26














Now I finally understood your question. It is a nice one, +1. I have a semi-serious question; I suppose that $$Lambda'=mathrm{diag}(V_1^TA'V_1, V_2^TA'V_2,ldots, V_n^TA'V_n), $$ where $V_j$ denotes the $j$-th column of $V$, is not the answer you are looking for?
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 12:13






Now I finally understood your question. It is a nice one, +1. I have a semi-serious question; I suppose that $$Lambda'=mathrm{diag}(V_1^TA'V_1, V_2^TA'V_2,ldots, V_n^TA'V_n), $$ where $V_j$ denotes the $j$-th column of $V$, is not the answer you are looking for?
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 12:13














Oh, and wait a minute. If you impose that the eigenvectors are orthonormal, as you may since $A$ is symmetric, then $V$ is an orthogonal matrix, that is, $V^TV=I$. Differentiating this you should get something, just like in the beginning of the post you differentiated $v_icdot v_j=delta_{ij}$. (HTH)
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 12:15






Oh, and wait a minute. If you impose that the eigenvectors are orthonormal, as you may since $A$ is symmetric, then $V$ is an orthogonal matrix, that is, $V^TV=I$. Differentiating this you should get something, just like in the beginning of the post you differentiated $v_icdot v_j=delta_{ij}$. (HTH)
– Giuseppe Negro
Nov 22 at 12:15

















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