What is dedjatch?











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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:



"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"



I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?










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  • Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:



"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"



I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?










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  • Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
    – Mitch
    3 hours ago










  • @Mitch I've added the links.
    – P. Vowk
    2 hours ago















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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:



"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"



I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?










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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:



"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"



I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?







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  • Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
    – Mitch
    3 hours ago










  • @Mitch I've added the links.
    – P. Vowk
    2 hours ago




















  • Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
    – Mitch
    3 hours ago










  • @Mitch I've added the links.
    – P. Vowk
    2 hours ago


















Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
3 hours ago




Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
3 hours ago












@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago






@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally




Keeper of the Gate




or more in terms of functioning role, translated as




Governor General




or even




Prince




The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).



Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.



The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.



The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.






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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:




"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."




I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.






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  • Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally




Keeper of the Gate




or more in terms of functioning role, translated as




Governor General




or even




Prince




The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).



Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.



The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.



The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.






share|improve this answer























  • Nice answer, monsieur!
    – Kiloran_speaking
    1 hour ago















up vote
5
down vote



accepted










In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally




Keeper of the Gate




or more in terms of functioning role, translated as




Governor General




or even




Prince




The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).



Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.



The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.



The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.






share|improve this answer























  • Nice answer, monsieur!
    – Kiloran_speaking
    1 hour ago













up vote
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up vote
5
down vote



accepted






In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally




Keeper of the Gate




or more in terms of functioning role, translated as




Governor General




or even




Prince




The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).



Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.



The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.



The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.






share|improve this answer














In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally




Keeper of the Gate




or more in terms of functioning role, translated as




Governor General




or even




Prince




The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).



Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.



The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.



The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.







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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:




"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."




I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.






share|improve this answer








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  • Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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    as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
    – P. Vowk
    2 hours ago















up vote
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:




"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."




I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.






share|improve this answer








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  • Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
    – Dlayd
    3 hours ago






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    as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
    – P. Vowk
    2 hours ago













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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:




"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."




I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.






share|improve this answer








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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:




"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."




I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.







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  • Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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    as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
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  • Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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    3 hours ago






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    as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
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    2 hours ago
















Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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