Another form of the Sandwich theorem (for derivatives in dimension $1$)











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Here is the theorem :



"Let $Isubseteq mathbb{R}$ an interval which contains $ain mathbb{R}$. Let $M$ and $m$ two functions defined on $I$, differentiable at $a$ and $f$ a function defined on $I$ which takes value in $mathbb{R}$.



If :



$i) forall x in I , m(x)le f(x)le M(x)$



$ii) m(a) = f(a) = M(a)$



$iii) m'(a)= M'(a)$



Then $f$ is differentiable at $a$ and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$"



Here is my proof :



I consider the function : $xmapsto frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ with $xne a$



Then $forall x in I setminus {a}$ by using $i)$ we have directly :



$frac{m(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ if $x-a>0$ (for the other case we just have to change the sign of the inequality)



But by $ii)$ we have : $m(a)=f(a)=M(a)$ so we obtain :



$frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$



$Rightarrow$
$m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



Then by using $iii)$ we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ or $M'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



So we prove that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ (by the Squeeze theorem the limit gives $m'(a)$ or $M'(a)$) and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$



The theorem is proved.



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  • Yes, your proof is (almost) correct, but in one of your first inequalities, you have to distinguish the cases $x<a$ and $x>a$, because this will change the sign of the denominator.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:07










  • @PhoemueX I was thinking about that fact and it can be more precise thanks... And do you think that the case $x=a$ is necessary for this proof ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:11










  • No, the case $x=a$ is not needed. The value around $x=a$ plays no role for $lim_{xto a}dots$. The value $f(a)$ only enters because of $frac{f(x)-color{red}{ f(a)}}{x-a}$.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:43












  • @PhoemueX ok perfect, thanks for confirmation !
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:48















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Here is the theorem :



"Let $Isubseteq mathbb{R}$ an interval which contains $ain mathbb{R}$. Let $M$ and $m$ two functions defined on $I$, differentiable at $a$ and $f$ a function defined on $I$ which takes value in $mathbb{R}$.



If :



$i) forall x in I , m(x)le f(x)le M(x)$



$ii) m(a) = f(a) = M(a)$



$iii) m'(a)= M'(a)$



Then $f$ is differentiable at $a$ and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$"



Here is my proof :



I consider the function : $xmapsto frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ with $xne a$



Then $forall x in I setminus {a}$ by using $i)$ we have directly :



$frac{m(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ if $x-a>0$ (for the other case we just have to change the sign of the inequality)



But by $ii)$ we have : $m(a)=f(a)=M(a)$ so we obtain :



$frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$



$Rightarrow$
$m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



Then by using $iii)$ we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ or $M'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



So we prove that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ (by the Squeeze theorem the limit gives $m'(a)$ or $M'(a)$) and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$



The theorem is proved.



Am I right ? Thanks in advance.










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  • Yes, your proof is (almost) correct, but in one of your first inequalities, you have to distinguish the cases $x<a$ and $x>a$, because this will change the sign of the denominator.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:07










  • @PhoemueX I was thinking about that fact and it can be more precise thanks... And do you think that the case $x=a$ is necessary for this proof ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:11










  • No, the case $x=a$ is not needed. The value around $x=a$ plays no role for $lim_{xto a}dots$. The value $f(a)$ only enters because of $frac{f(x)-color{red}{ f(a)}}{x-a}$.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:43












  • @PhoemueX ok perfect, thanks for confirmation !
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:48













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Here is the theorem :



"Let $Isubseteq mathbb{R}$ an interval which contains $ain mathbb{R}$. Let $M$ and $m$ two functions defined on $I$, differentiable at $a$ and $f$ a function defined on $I$ which takes value in $mathbb{R}$.



If :



$i) forall x in I , m(x)le f(x)le M(x)$



$ii) m(a) = f(a) = M(a)$



$iii) m'(a)= M'(a)$



Then $f$ is differentiable at $a$ and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$"



Here is my proof :



I consider the function : $xmapsto frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ with $xne a$



Then $forall x in I setminus {a}$ by using $i)$ we have directly :



$frac{m(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ if $x-a>0$ (for the other case we just have to change the sign of the inequality)



But by $ii)$ we have : $m(a)=f(a)=M(a)$ so we obtain :



$frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$



$Rightarrow$
$m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



Then by using $iii)$ we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ or $M'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



So we prove that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ (by the Squeeze theorem the limit gives $m'(a)$ or $M'(a)$) and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$



The theorem is proved.



Am I right ? Thanks in advance.










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Here is the theorem :



"Let $Isubseteq mathbb{R}$ an interval which contains $ain mathbb{R}$. Let $M$ and $m$ two functions defined on $I$, differentiable at $a$ and $f$ a function defined on $I$ which takes value in $mathbb{R}$.



If :



$i) forall x in I , m(x)le f(x)le M(x)$



$ii) m(a) = f(a) = M(a)$



$iii) m'(a)= M'(a)$



Then $f$ is differentiable at $a$ and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$"



Here is my proof :



I consider the function : $xmapsto frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ with $xne a$



Then $forall x in I setminus {a}$ by using $i)$ we have directly :



$frac{m(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$ if $x-a>0$ (for the other case we just have to change the sign of the inequality)



But by $ii)$ we have : $m(a)=f(a)=M(a)$ so we obtain :



$frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$



$Rightarrow$
$m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



Then by using $iii)$ we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ or $M'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le M'(a)$



So we prove that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ (by the Squeeze theorem the limit gives $m'(a)$ or $M'(a)$) and we have $f'(a)=m'(a)=M'(a)$



The theorem is proved.



Am I right ? Thanks in advance.







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  • Yes, your proof is (almost) correct, but in one of your first inequalities, you have to distinguish the cases $x<a$ and $x>a$, because this will change the sign of the denominator.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:07










  • @PhoemueX I was thinking about that fact and it can be more precise thanks... And do you think that the case $x=a$ is necessary for this proof ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:11










  • No, the case $x=a$ is not needed. The value around $x=a$ plays no role for $lim_{xto a}dots$. The value $f(a)$ only enters because of $frac{f(x)-color{red}{ f(a)}}{x-a}$.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:43












  • @PhoemueX ok perfect, thanks for confirmation !
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:48


















  • Yes, your proof is (almost) correct, but in one of your first inequalities, you have to distinguish the cases $x<a$ and $x>a$, because this will change the sign of the denominator.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:07










  • @PhoemueX I was thinking about that fact and it can be more precise thanks... And do you think that the case $x=a$ is necessary for this proof ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 15:11










  • No, the case $x=a$ is not needed. The value around $x=a$ plays no role for $lim_{xto a}dots$. The value $f(a)$ only enters because of $frac{f(x)-color{red}{ f(a)}}{x-a}$.
    – PhoemueX
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:43












  • @PhoemueX ok perfect, thanks for confirmation !
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 16:48
















Yes, your proof is (almost) correct, but in one of your first inequalities, you have to distinguish the cases $x<a$ and $x>a$, because this will change the sign of the denominator.
– PhoemueX
Dec 27 '14 at 15:07




Yes, your proof is (almost) correct, but in one of your first inequalities, you have to distinguish the cases $x<a$ and $x>a$, because this will change the sign of the denominator.
– PhoemueX
Dec 27 '14 at 15:07












@PhoemueX I was thinking about that fact and it can be more precise thanks... And do you think that the case $x=a$ is necessary for this proof ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 15:11




@PhoemueX I was thinking about that fact and it can be more precise thanks... And do you think that the case $x=a$ is necessary for this proof ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 15:11












No, the case $x=a$ is not needed. The value around $x=a$ plays no role for $lim_{xto a}dots$. The value $f(a)$ only enters because of $frac{f(x)-color{red}{ f(a)}}{x-a}$.
– PhoemueX
Dec 27 '14 at 16:43






No, the case $x=a$ is not needed. The value around $x=a$ plays no role for $lim_{xto a}dots$. The value $f(a)$ only enters because of $frac{f(x)-color{red}{ f(a)}}{x-a}$.
– PhoemueX
Dec 27 '14 at 16:43














@PhoemueX ok perfect, thanks for confirmation !
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 16:48




@PhoemueX ok perfect, thanks for confirmation !
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 16:48










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It's correct. just a formal thing: you can't move to the inequality
$$
m^prime(a)leqlim_{xrightarrow a}frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq M^prime(a)
$$
Because you haven't proved that the limit exists. you need to move from the first inequality straight to the conclusion.






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  • You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:11












  • no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:15










  • But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:22










  • Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:26










  • ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:35













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It's correct. just a formal thing: you can't move to the inequality
$$
m^prime(a)leqlim_{xrightarrow a}frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq M^prime(a)
$$
Because you haven't proved that the limit exists. you need to move from the first inequality straight to the conclusion.






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  • You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:11












  • no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:15










  • But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:22










  • Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:26










  • ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:35

















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It's correct. just a formal thing: you can't move to the inequality
$$
m^prime(a)leqlim_{xrightarrow a}frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq M^prime(a)
$$
Because you haven't proved that the limit exists. you need to move from the first inequality straight to the conclusion.






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  • You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:11












  • no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:15










  • But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:22










  • Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:26










  • ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:35















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up vote
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It's correct. just a formal thing: you can't move to the inequality
$$
m^prime(a)leqlim_{xrightarrow a}frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq M^prime(a)
$$
Because you haven't proved that the limit exists. you need to move from the first inequality straight to the conclusion.






share|cite|improve this answer












It's correct. just a formal thing: you can't move to the inequality
$$
m^prime(a)leqlim_{xrightarrow a}frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq M^prime(a)
$$
Because you haven't proved that the limit exists. you need to move from the first inequality straight to the conclusion.







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  • You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:11












  • no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:15










  • But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:22










  • Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:26










  • ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:35




















  • You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:11












  • no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:15










  • But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:22










  • Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
    – tzoorp
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:26










  • ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
    – Maman
    Dec 27 '14 at 17:35


















You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 17:11






You mean that it is better to write $lim_{xrightarrow a}frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} = m'(a)$ before this inequality ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 17:11














no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
– tzoorp
Dec 27 '14 at 17:15




no, i mean that you should write $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a}leq frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}leq frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ and from there move to the conclusion that $f$ is derivable at $a$ and that $m^prime(a)=f^prime(a)=M^prime(a)$
– tzoorp
Dec 27 '14 at 17:15












But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 17:22




But you used the squeeze theorem to get $m'(a)$ and $M'(a)$ no ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 17:22












Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
– tzoorp
Dec 27 '14 at 17:26




Yes, the step in my comment is due to the sandwich theorem.
– tzoorp
Dec 27 '14 at 17:26












ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 17:35






ok so it's better if I write : $frac{m(x)-m(a)}{x-a} le frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le frac{M(x)-M(a)}{x-a}$ then by applying the squeeze theorem and the third hypothesis we have : $m'(a) le lim limits_{xto a} frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a} le m'(a)$ which means that $f$ is differentiable at $a$ ?
– Maman
Dec 27 '14 at 17:35




















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