Relationship between exponents inside Lebesgue integral and evaluation












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I am trying to understand the properties of Lebesgue integration, and in particular how exponents play between the integrand and the value of the integral.



For instance, suppose that it is known $$int_{[0,1]} f_n(x)^2 dlambda leq frac{1}{n^4}$$ for all $n in mathbb{N}$, where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



It seems to me, since $+sqrt{f_n(x)^2} = |f_n(x)|$ for every $x$ (where we consider only the positive values of $sqrt{f_n(x)^2}$) then we should have that $$int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)| d lambda leq frac{1}{n^2}.$$ I am attempting to prove this, but I am not sure how.



I realize that in the $L^2$ norm, the statement $||f_n||_2 leq frac{1}{n^2}$ holds (since $f_n^2 = |f_n|^2$), but it is not in general true that $$int|f_n(x)|^2 d lambda = left( int |f_n(x)| d lambda right )^2.$$ Would anyone be able to provide a hint on how to bound the statement above, or hint at a counterexample?



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    I am trying to understand the properties of Lebesgue integration, and in particular how exponents play between the integrand and the value of the integral.



    For instance, suppose that it is known $$int_{[0,1]} f_n(x)^2 dlambda leq frac{1}{n^4}$$ for all $n in mathbb{N}$, where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



    It seems to me, since $+sqrt{f_n(x)^2} = |f_n(x)|$ for every $x$ (where we consider only the positive values of $sqrt{f_n(x)^2}$) then we should have that $$int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)| d lambda leq frac{1}{n^2}.$$ I am attempting to prove this, but I am not sure how.



    I realize that in the $L^2$ norm, the statement $||f_n||_2 leq frac{1}{n^2}$ holds (since $f_n^2 = |f_n|^2$), but it is not in general true that $$int|f_n(x)|^2 d lambda = left( int |f_n(x)| d lambda right )^2.$$ Would anyone be able to provide a hint on how to bound the statement above, or hint at a counterexample?



    Thank you!










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      I am trying to understand the properties of Lebesgue integration, and in particular how exponents play between the integrand and the value of the integral.



      For instance, suppose that it is known $$int_{[0,1]} f_n(x)^2 dlambda leq frac{1}{n^4}$$ for all $n in mathbb{N}$, where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



      It seems to me, since $+sqrt{f_n(x)^2} = |f_n(x)|$ for every $x$ (where we consider only the positive values of $sqrt{f_n(x)^2}$) then we should have that $$int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)| d lambda leq frac{1}{n^2}.$$ I am attempting to prove this, but I am not sure how.



      I realize that in the $L^2$ norm, the statement $||f_n||_2 leq frac{1}{n^2}$ holds (since $f_n^2 = |f_n|^2$), but it is not in general true that $$int|f_n(x)|^2 d lambda = left( int |f_n(x)| d lambda right )^2.$$ Would anyone be able to provide a hint on how to bound the statement above, or hint at a counterexample?



      Thank you!










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      I am trying to understand the properties of Lebesgue integration, and in particular how exponents play between the integrand and the value of the integral.



      For instance, suppose that it is known $$int_{[0,1]} f_n(x)^2 dlambda leq frac{1}{n^4}$$ for all $n in mathbb{N}$, where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



      It seems to me, since $+sqrt{f_n(x)^2} = |f_n(x)|$ for every $x$ (where we consider only the positive values of $sqrt{f_n(x)^2}$) then we should have that $$int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)| d lambda leq frac{1}{n^2}.$$ I am attempting to prove this, but I am not sure how.



      I realize that in the $L^2$ norm, the statement $||f_n||_2 leq frac{1}{n^2}$ holds (since $f_n^2 = |f_n|^2$), but it is not in general true that $$int|f_n(x)|^2 d lambda = left( int |f_n(x)| d lambda right )^2.$$ Would anyone be able to provide a hint on how to bound the statement above, or hint at a counterexample?



      Thank you!







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          Use Schwarz's inequality:
          $$
          int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|, dlambdaleBigl(int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|^2, dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}Bigl(int_{[0,1]} dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}.
          $$






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            Use Schwarz's inequality:
            $$
            int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|, dlambdaleBigl(int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|^2, dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}Bigl(int_{[0,1]} dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}.
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              Use Schwarz's inequality:
              $$
              int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|, dlambdaleBigl(int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|^2, dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}Bigl(int_{[0,1]} dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}.
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                Use Schwarz's inequality:
                $$
                int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|, dlambdaleBigl(int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|^2, dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}Bigl(int_{[0,1]} dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}.
                $$






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                Use Schwarz's inequality:
                $$
                int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|, dlambdaleBigl(int_{[0,1]} |f_n(x)|^2, dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}Bigl(int_{[0,1]} dlambdaBigr)^{1/2}.
                $$







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