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I'm supposed to prove that, in a ring, if $a$ is an element such that the set ${a^n; n=0,1,...}$ is finite, then $a$ is either invertible or a zero divisor. I don't understand how $a$ can not be invertible, since if the set is finite then there has to be an $i$ such that $a^i=1$.










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    What happens for $a=0$?
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I'm supposed to prove that, in a ring, if $a$ is an element such that the set ${a^n; n=0,1,...}$ is finite, then $a$ is either invertible or a zero divisor. I don't understand how $a$ can not be invertible, since if the set is finite then there has to be an $i$ such that $a^i=1$.





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    Nov 21 at 15:15










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What happens for $a=0$?
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What happens for $a=0$?
– asdq
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Though not an exact dupe, many answers in the dupe apply here too.
– Bill Dubuque
Nov 21 at 15:15




Though not an exact dupe, many answers in the dupe apply here too.
– Bill Dubuque
Nov 21 at 15:15












e.g. In $,Bbb Z/8,$ the positive powers of $2$ being $,2,4,0,0,ldots$ are not $equiv 1pmod{!8},$ being even $= 2^n !+ 8k$ $ $
– Bill Dubuque
Nov 21 at 15:24






e.g. In $,Bbb Z/8,$ the positive powers of $2$ being $,2,4,0,0,ldots$ are not $equiv 1pmod{!8},$ being even $= 2^n !+ 8k$ $ $
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Since the set is finite there exist $m,n$ such that $a^m=a^n$. Without loss of generality assume that $m>n$. If $a$ is not a zero divisor then $0=a^m-a^n=a^n(a^{m-n}-1)$ implies that $a^{m-n}=1$ hence $a$ is invertible.



If you consider the ring $k[x]/(x^2)$ for example, the powers of $x$ are finite and $x$ is a zero divisor.






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    It is not true that if that set is finite, then $a^i=1$ for some $iinmathbb N$. Take, for instance, the ring of all $2times2$ rational matrices. Then each matrix $M$ of the form$$M=begin{bmatrix}1-d&frac{d-d^2}c\c&dend{bmatrix},$$($cinmathbb{Q}setminus{0}$, $dinmathbb Q$) is such that $M^2=M$. So, the set ${M^n,|,ninmathbb{Z}^+}$ is surely finite. However, there is no natural $i$ such that $M^i=operatorname{Id}$.



    Of course, since $M^2=M$, you have $Mtimes(M-operatorname{Id})=0$ and therefore $M$ is a zero divisor.






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      Since the set is finite there exist $m,n$ such that $a^m=a^n$. Without loss of generality assume that $m>n$. If $a$ is not a zero divisor then $0=a^m-a^n=a^n(a^{m-n}-1)$ implies that $a^{m-n}=1$ hence $a$ is invertible.



      If you consider the ring $k[x]/(x^2)$ for example, the powers of $x$ are finite and $x$ is a zero divisor.






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        Since the set is finite there exist $m,n$ such that $a^m=a^n$. Without loss of generality assume that $m>n$. If $a$ is not a zero divisor then $0=a^m-a^n=a^n(a^{m-n}-1)$ implies that $a^{m-n}=1$ hence $a$ is invertible.



        If you consider the ring $k[x]/(x^2)$ for example, the powers of $x$ are finite and $x$ is a zero divisor.






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          Since the set is finite there exist $m,n$ such that $a^m=a^n$. Without loss of generality assume that $m>n$. If $a$ is not a zero divisor then $0=a^m-a^n=a^n(a^{m-n}-1)$ implies that $a^{m-n}=1$ hence $a$ is invertible.



          If you consider the ring $k[x]/(x^2)$ for example, the powers of $x$ are finite and $x$ is a zero divisor.






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          Since the set is finite there exist $m,n$ such that $a^m=a^n$. Without loss of generality assume that $m>n$. If $a$ is not a zero divisor then $0=a^m-a^n=a^n(a^{m-n}-1)$ implies that $a^{m-n}=1$ hence $a$ is invertible.



          If you consider the ring $k[x]/(x^2)$ for example, the powers of $x$ are finite and $x$ is a zero divisor.







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              It is not true that if that set is finite, then $a^i=1$ for some $iinmathbb N$. Take, for instance, the ring of all $2times2$ rational matrices. Then each matrix $M$ of the form$$M=begin{bmatrix}1-d&frac{d-d^2}c\c&dend{bmatrix},$$($cinmathbb{Q}setminus{0}$, $dinmathbb Q$) is such that $M^2=M$. So, the set ${M^n,|,ninmathbb{Z}^+}$ is surely finite. However, there is no natural $i$ such that $M^i=operatorname{Id}$.



              Of course, since $M^2=M$, you have $Mtimes(M-operatorname{Id})=0$ and therefore $M$ is a zero divisor.






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                It is not true that if that set is finite, then $a^i=1$ for some $iinmathbb N$. Take, for instance, the ring of all $2times2$ rational matrices. Then each matrix $M$ of the form$$M=begin{bmatrix}1-d&frac{d-d^2}c\c&dend{bmatrix},$$($cinmathbb{Q}setminus{0}$, $dinmathbb Q$) is such that $M^2=M$. So, the set ${M^n,|,ninmathbb{Z}^+}$ is surely finite. However, there is no natural $i$ such that $M^i=operatorname{Id}$.



                Of course, since $M^2=M$, you have $Mtimes(M-operatorname{Id})=0$ and therefore $M$ is a zero divisor.






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                  It is not true that if that set is finite, then $a^i=1$ for some $iinmathbb N$. Take, for instance, the ring of all $2times2$ rational matrices. Then each matrix $M$ of the form$$M=begin{bmatrix}1-d&frac{d-d^2}c\c&dend{bmatrix},$$($cinmathbb{Q}setminus{0}$, $dinmathbb Q$) is such that $M^2=M$. So, the set ${M^n,|,ninmathbb{Z}^+}$ is surely finite. However, there is no natural $i$ such that $M^i=operatorname{Id}$.



                  Of course, since $M^2=M$, you have $Mtimes(M-operatorname{Id})=0$ and therefore $M$ is a zero divisor.






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                  It is not true that if that set is finite, then $a^i=1$ for some $iinmathbb N$. Take, for instance, the ring of all $2times2$ rational matrices. Then each matrix $M$ of the form$$M=begin{bmatrix}1-d&frac{d-d^2}c\c&dend{bmatrix},$$($cinmathbb{Q}setminus{0}$, $dinmathbb Q$) is such that $M^2=M$. So, the set ${M^n,|,ninmathbb{Z}^+}$ is surely finite. However, there is no natural $i$ such that $M^i=operatorname{Id}$.



                  Of course, since $M^2=M$, you have $Mtimes(M-operatorname{Id})=0$ and therefore $M$ is a zero divisor.







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