In a T1 space, derived set = closure











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Lemma. In a $T_1$ space, $bar{S}=S'$.



Proof.
We know that $bar{S}=Scup S'$ (already proven), thus $S'=bar{S}$ iff $Ssubseteq S'$. $xin S'$ iff $forall U_xin N(x)$, $U_xcap S-{x}nevarnothing$. Given any $xin S$, suppose $xnotin S'$, then, since $S'$ is closed (already proven, valid only in $T_1$), there is $Uin N(x)$ such that $Ucap S'=varnothing$. $x$ is an isolated point, thus there is $Vin N(x)$ such that $Scap V={x}$. I've also proved that in $T_1$ singletons are closed.










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    Lemma. In a $T_1$ space, $bar{S}=S'$.



    Proof.
    We know that $bar{S}=Scup S'$ (already proven), thus $S'=bar{S}$ iff $Ssubseteq S'$. $xin S'$ iff $forall U_xin N(x)$, $U_xcap S-{x}nevarnothing$. Given any $xin S$, suppose $xnotin S'$, then, since $S'$ is closed (already proven, valid only in $T_1$), there is $Uin N(x)$ such that $Ucap S'=varnothing$. $x$ is an isolated point, thus there is $Vin N(x)$ such that $Scap V={x}$. I've also proved that in $T_1$ singletons are closed.










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      How do I do the proof? My "proof" is more like a list of to me known facts.




      Lemma. In a $T_1$ space, $bar{S}=S'$.



      Proof.
      We know that $bar{S}=Scup S'$ (already proven), thus $S'=bar{S}$ iff $Ssubseteq S'$. $xin S'$ iff $forall U_xin N(x)$, $U_xcap S-{x}nevarnothing$. Given any $xin S$, suppose $xnotin S'$, then, since $S'$ is closed (already proven, valid only in $T_1$), there is $Uin N(x)$ such that $Ucap S'=varnothing$. $x$ is an isolated point, thus there is $Vin N(x)$ such that $Scap V={x}$. I've also proved that in $T_1$ singletons are closed.










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      How do I do the proof? My "proof" is more like a list of to me known facts.




      Lemma. In a $T_1$ space, $bar{S}=S'$.



      Proof.
      We know that $bar{S}=Scup S'$ (already proven), thus $S'=bar{S}$ iff $Ssubseteq S'$. $xin S'$ iff $forall U_xin N(x)$, $U_xcap S-{x}nevarnothing$. Given any $xin S$, suppose $xnotin S'$, then, since $S'$ is closed (already proven, valid only in $T_1$), there is $Uin N(x)$ such that $Ucap S'=varnothing$. $x$ is an isolated point, thus there is $Vin N(x)$ such that $Scap V={x}$. I've also proved that in $T_1$ singletons are closed.







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          The lemma is not true.



          Let $S={x}$.



          Then $S'=varnothing$ so cannot equalize the non-empty set $overline S$.






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          • so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
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          • You are welcome.
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          up vote
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          accepted










          The lemma is not true.



          Let $S={x}$.



          Then $S'=varnothing$ so cannot equalize the non-empty set $overline S$.






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          • so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
            – PeptideChain
            Nov 21 at 9:44










          • You are welcome.
            – drhab
            Nov 21 at 9:45















          up vote
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          accepted










          The lemma is not true.



          Let $S={x}$.



          Then $S'=varnothing$ so cannot equalize the non-empty set $overline S$.






          share|cite|improve this answer





















          • so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
            – PeptideChain
            Nov 21 at 9:44










          • You are welcome.
            – drhab
            Nov 21 at 9:45













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          The lemma is not true.



          Let $S={x}$.



          Then $S'=varnothing$ so cannot equalize the non-empty set $overline S$.






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          The lemma is not true.



          Let $S={x}$.



          Then $S'=varnothing$ so cannot equalize the non-empty set $overline S$.







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          • so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
            – PeptideChain
            Nov 21 at 9:44










          • You are welcome.
            – drhab
            Nov 21 at 9:45


















          • so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
            – PeptideChain
            Nov 21 at 9:44










          • You are welcome.
            – drhab
            Nov 21 at 9:45
















          so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
          – PeptideChain
          Nov 21 at 9:44




          so many wasted hours...and now I get why there was no way to find an answer in internet... tnx
          – PeptideChain
          Nov 21 at 9:44












          You are welcome.
          – drhab
          Nov 21 at 9:45




          You are welcome.
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