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My initial research suggests that a Bible Translation has to do with translating the Bible from one language into another. However, I have been asked to find out how many Bible Versions there were prior to the publication of the King James Version of the Bible (in 1611).

The King James Authorized Version was translated from the Masoretic Text of the Old Testament, and the Textus Receptus family of the Greek New Testament (which is known as “The Received Text”).

I found the answer to this question helpful: Most accurate version of the Bible?

However, I'm still unclear as to what differentiates a Bible Version from a Bible Translation. Why is the King James called a Version when it appears to be a Translation? Please don't be unkind because I am not a scholar and I can't find a straightforward answer. That's why I've come to Bible Hermeneutics.

Edit: Please note that my original question was What are the various Bible Versions up till 1611? My question has been changed without my permission.

Version vs Translation

"Translation" is the process; "Version" is the result of the process. However, in modern speech, these words are used almost interchangeably.

English Versions

Before the KJV there were almost 100 English versions of the Bible or parts of it. I will only list the highlights below and allow the reader to delve further. The dates for some of these is uncertain.

• Book of Psalms translated by Aldehelm and Guthlac into Old English about 750 AD (?)


• An unknown monk or monks penned an interlinear gloss in the Lindisfarne (Latin) Gospels about 800 AD in Old English.


• The "Heptateuch" (Torah plus Joshua and judges) translated by Aelfric about 900 AD in Old English


• The four gospels - the so-called Saxon Gospels were translated from Latin to Old English by Aldred about 990


• The four gospels were translated into Anglo-Norman (not quite English??) about 1100


• Paraphrase in Meter without Rhyme … done by Ormin about 1200(??)


• Metrical Paraphrase of OT and NT called "SOWLEHELE" sometime before 1300


• The most important Bible version (judging by its theological and political effect) is easily that of Wycliffe, first produced about 1384 in Middle English and translated from the Latin overly literally. It was revised by John Purvey into good fluent middle English and completed about 1395 after Wycliffe's death. While this Bible was not printed at the time (moveable type printing was invented in 1455) it has been printed often ever since.


• Tyndale's NT of 1526 in "modern" English and quite different from the middle English of only 150 years earlier. It is the first printed Bible and established English as we largely know it today (just as Luther's Bible did for German). Translated from the Greek.


• Myles Coverdale version of 1535 translated from the Latin


• Matthew Bible of 1537 using Tyndale's NT and 1st half OT plus Coverdale's 2nd half of the OT.


• HollyBusche NT in 1538


• Taverner Version 1539 - complete Bible


• Great Bible (essentially revised Coverdale) 1539


• Geneva Bible; NT in 1557 and complete Bible in 1560 translated entirely from the original languages but still used much of Tyndale's phraseology.


• Bishop's Bible 1568 translated from the original languages


• NT of our Lord Jesus Christ translated by Theodore Beza (of Textus Receptus fame) 1576; translated from Greek


• Rheims-Duay Version translated from the Latin; NT in 1582; complete Bible in 1609 or 1610.


• King James Bible of 1611


• numerous other version after 1611, including "Haak", "Bishop Lloyd's", "Wells Version", etc.


• The KJV was revised numerous times correcting numerous grammatical and spelling errors; the final version (as we have it now) was produced by Blayney in 1769.

For more information and a longer list see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_English

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-version-and-translation

The typical dichotomy that is debated in Translation Studies and
Comparative Literature is between translation and adaptation. The
presumed goal of a “perfect translation” (which can never exist) is to
render a text in one language into a precise and accurate equivalent
in another language. In other words, the goal of a translation is to
avoid making changes beyond what the change of language requires. The
presumption of an adaptation is that changes are being made
intentionally. Since all translations require some adaptation and all
adaptations are translations of a sort (usually from one medium to
another), the debate is sometimes a bit like trying to determine if
the glass is half empty or half full.

The word “version” (like “adaptation”) emphasizes the change in a
text, while a translation aspires to resist changing the text.
Although every translation is necessarily a version, pointing out that
a translation is a version is a mild insult, in essence pointing out
that all translations are in some degree failures (words that rhyme in
one language don’t rhyme in another, some jokes are funny in one
language but don’t work in another, the connotations, associations and
ambiguity of some words cannot be translated, etc).

It is worth noting that in 16th-century French “version” was a synonym
of “translation.” The origin of the word is “turning away.” In
18th-century English the word “version” took on a sense of
“destruction.” No translator would want her/his work labelled as “a
version,” for the simple reason that it invites the extrapolation that
the translation is one of many possible “versions” or worse still a
“perversion.”

I have long argued that all of the "Bibles" that claim to be "translations of the Bible" are actually "versions":

version noun
ver·​sion | ˈvər-zhən, -shən
Definition of version
1a : an account or description from a particular point of view especially as contrasted with another account
b : an adaptation of a literary work
the movie version of the novel
c : an arrangement of a musical composition
2 : a form or variant of a type or original
an experimental version of the airplane
3 : a translation from another language
especially : a translation of the Bible or a part of it
4a : a condition in which an organ and especially the uterus is turned from its normal position
b : manual turning of a fetus in the uterus to aid delivery

The distinction is significant as you seem to intuit.

In order to be considered a "translation" there would have to be an original in a source language. But there isn't one. Each version committee first decides on the source text they will use and then they create the target version. If there were an original "Bible" then it would be a "simple" process of translating from A to B. But there is no original Bible, only various scattered manuscripts that have to be assembled.

And there is a mistaken assumption by many that there is only one KJV version. The 1611 version of the KJV contained the "apocrypha", books that were removed by the Reformers/Protestants in versions made 40 years later.

The KJV was the first version of the Bible built on the Textus Receptus, which first appeared in the beginning of the previous century. It has some readings that are not found in any other manuscripts, some of which appear to be Trinitarian manipulations, such as the Johannine Comma which make the text especially appealing to Trinitarians.

So because there is no original to translate directly and because the resulting texts vary, every Bible is ultimately a "version" not just a "translation".

In answer to "How many Bibles ?" before 1611, I cannot say exactly but Textus Receptus Bibles shows, on a single page, the English bibles commonly used from 1175 (the famous Wessex Gospels - not a full bible, but the most ancient known scripture in English) through The Wycliffe in 1382, which was translated from the Latin Vulgate, then Tyndale 1534, from the Greek text of Erasmus, and so on till 1611, the Authorised Version :

Coverdale 1535, Matthew's 1537, Great Bible 1539, Geneva 1560 and Bishop's Bible 1568.

Note that the KJV used now is the 1769 translation.

This list misses out the Douay Rheims Bible (NT 1582/OT 1609) from Jerome's Vulgate (not the Clementine Vulgate, which is later). Challoner revised the translation of the D-R in 1750.

The word 'version' has been applied in the past to the various translations (into Latin, Syriac and other languages) which were completed in the first and second centuries. As well the codices, in Greek (uncial and cursive), were the 'versions'.

So there is some overlap in the way the two words 'translation' and 'version' have been used and are now used. What matters is : the text underlying a bible and the way in which the text is rendered in a language other than the underlying text.