Integral Inequality with L-2 Norm











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On page 135 of The Mathematical Theory of Finite Element Methods (Brenner and Scott), I encountered the following inequality:



$left | int_{Gamma} overline{v} - v , ds right | leq |Gamma |^{1/2} || overline{v} - v ||_{L^2(Gamma)},$.



The mean $overline{v}$ is defined as



$overline{v} = frac{1}{text{meas}(Omega)} int_{Omega} v(x) , dx ,$



and $Gamma = partial Omega$.



The inequality is part of a proof that the bilinear form for the Poisson equation with Dirichlet boundary conditions is coercive.



My question is: could I replace the $overline{v}-v$ on both sides of the inequality with some (more general) function? If so, what would the restrictions on the function be? I'm not sure where the inequality comes from.










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    On page 135 of The Mathematical Theory of Finite Element Methods (Brenner and Scott), I encountered the following inequality:



    $left | int_{Gamma} overline{v} - v , ds right | leq |Gamma |^{1/2} || overline{v} - v ||_{L^2(Gamma)},$.



    The mean $overline{v}$ is defined as



    $overline{v} = frac{1}{text{meas}(Omega)} int_{Omega} v(x) , dx ,$



    and $Gamma = partial Omega$.



    The inequality is part of a proof that the bilinear form for the Poisson equation with Dirichlet boundary conditions is coercive.



    My question is: could I replace the $overline{v}-v$ on both sides of the inequality with some (more general) function? If so, what would the restrictions on the function be? I'm not sure where the inequality comes from.










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      On page 135 of The Mathematical Theory of Finite Element Methods (Brenner and Scott), I encountered the following inequality:



      $left | int_{Gamma} overline{v} - v , ds right | leq |Gamma |^{1/2} || overline{v} - v ||_{L^2(Gamma)},$.



      The mean $overline{v}$ is defined as



      $overline{v} = frac{1}{text{meas}(Omega)} int_{Omega} v(x) , dx ,$



      and $Gamma = partial Omega$.



      The inequality is part of a proof that the bilinear form for the Poisson equation with Dirichlet boundary conditions is coercive.



      My question is: could I replace the $overline{v}-v$ on both sides of the inequality with some (more general) function? If so, what would the restrictions on the function be? I'm not sure where the inequality comes from.










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      On page 135 of The Mathematical Theory of Finite Element Methods (Brenner and Scott), I encountered the following inequality:



      $left | int_{Gamma} overline{v} - v , ds right | leq |Gamma |^{1/2} || overline{v} - v ||_{L^2(Gamma)},$.



      The mean $overline{v}$ is defined as



      $overline{v} = frac{1}{text{meas}(Omega)} int_{Omega} v(x) , dx ,$



      and $Gamma = partial Omega$.



      The inequality is part of a proof that the bilinear form for the Poisson equation with Dirichlet boundary conditions is coercive.



      My question is: could I replace the $overline{v}-v$ on both sides of the inequality with some (more general) function? If so, what would the restrictions on the function be? I'm not sure where the inequality comes from.







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          This is just Hoelder inequality. Let me denote $w:=bar v -v$. Then
          $$
          |int_Gamma w ds| le int_Gamma |w|cdot 1 ds le |1|_{L^2(Gamma)} |w|_{L^2(Gamma)} = |Gamma|^{1/2}|w|_{L^2(Gamma)}.
          $$

          This works if $win L^2(Gamma)$ and $|Gamma|<+infty$.






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            This is just Hoelder inequality. Let me denote $w:=bar v -v$. Then
            $$
            |int_Gamma w ds| le int_Gamma |w|cdot 1 ds le |1|_{L^2(Gamma)} |w|_{L^2(Gamma)} = |Gamma|^{1/2}|w|_{L^2(Gamma)}.
            $$

            This works if $win L^2(Gamma)$ and $|Gamma|<+infty$.






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              This is just Hoelder inequality. Let me denote $w:=bar v -v$. Then
              $$
              |int_Gamma w ds| le int_Gamma |w|cdot 1 ds le |1|_{L^2(Gamma)} |w|_{L^2(Gamma)} = |Gamma|^{1/2}|w|_{L^2(Gamma)}.
              $$

              This works if $win L^2(Gamma)$ and $|Gamma|<+infty$.






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                This is just Hoelder inequality. Let me denote $w:=bar v -v$. Then
                $$
                |int_Gamma w ds| le int_Gamma |w|cdot 1 ds le |1|_{L^2(Gamma)} |w|_{L^2(Gamma)} = |Gamma|^{1/2}|w|_{L^2(Gamma)}.
                $$

                This works if $win L^2(Gamma)$ and $|Gamma|<+infty$.






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                This is just Hoelder inequality. Let me denote $w:=bar v -v$. Then
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                |int_Gamma w ds| le int_Gamma |w|cdot 1 ds le |1|_{L^2(Gamma)} |w|_{L^2(Gamma)} = |Gamma|^{1/2}|w|_{L^2(Gamma)}.
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                This works if $win L^2(Gamma)$ and $|Gamma|<+infty$.







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