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I have created a live usb of Ubuntu 12.04 with a 4GB persistence file. Firefox and other software get updated when running update manager. However, the linux kernel will not update and I am unable to install synaptic package manager, ubuntu tweak, etc. Is there a fix for this. Thanks in advance.










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    I have created a live usb of Ubuntu 12.04 with a 4GB persistence file. Firefox and other software get updated when running update manager. However, the linux kernel will not update and I am unable to install synaptic package manager, ubuntu tweak, etc. Is there a fix for this. Thanks in advance.










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      I have created a live usb of Ubuntu 12.04 with a 4GB persistence file. Firefox and other software get updated when running update manager. However, the linux kernel will not update and I am unable to install synaptic package manager, ubuntu tweak, etc. Is there a fix for this. Thanks in advance.










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      I have created a live usb of Ubuntu 12.04 with a 4GB persistence file. Firefox and other software get updated when running update manager. However, the linux kernel will not update and I am unable to install synaptic package manager, ubuntu tweak, etc. Is there a fix for this. Thanks in advance.







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          i found this solution also on askubuntu and i apply it and worked for me and i share again here:



          gksudo gedit /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub


          **



          Comment out line 15



          **



          BEFORE



          */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
          exec update-grub
          ;;


          AFTER



              */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
          # exec update-grub
          ;;


          Run the configuration script:



          $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
          (lots of debugging)
          $


          You should see a lot of debugging, and NOT the error line at the end.



          To be sure, re-run the configuration. It should end immediately without any logs:



          $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
          $


          Now, you can restore the zz-update-grub file, just in case you want to install an other kernel later and Grub start to work with overlayfs...






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            This is apparently a common question no one replied correctly to.



            None of the existing ISO9660-based live operating systems provide a kernel update feature: the kernel and the initrd are the only components that a live operating system cannot update, because they lay outside of the data persistence partition (if any) and the system partition is, as said, ISO9660-formatted.



            After some years of asking me why, I found the liveng whitepaper on Read the Docs.




            The full aim of the liveng project is to give the Community a set of
            best practices in order to turn a common Debian Linux live into a
            live(ng) operating system which features:



            native encrypted persistence;
            kernel update (on a live ISO 9660 filesystem!);
            UEFI, with UEFI Secure Boot compatibility, with a real efi partition.



            Tails is another example of live system with kernel update facility, but its filesystem is FAT, not so-good for a live...






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              i found this solution also on askubuntu and i apply it and worked for me and i share again here:



              gksudo gedit /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub


              **



              Comment out line 15



              **



              BEFORE



              */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
              exec update-grub
              ;;


              AFTER



                  */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
              # exec update-grub
              ;;


              Run the configuration script:



              $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
              (lots of debugging)
              $


              You should see a lot of debugging, and NOT the error line at the end.



              To be sure, re-run the configuration. It should end immediately without any logs:



              $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
              $


              Now, you can restore the zz-update-grub file, just in case you want to install an other kernel later and Grub start to work with overlayfs...






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                i found this solution also on askubuntu and i apply it and worked for me and i share again here:



                gksudo gedit /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub


                **



                Comment out line 15



                **



                BEFORE



                */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
                exec update-grub
                ;;


                AFTER



                    */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
                # exec update-grub
                ;;


                Run the configuration script:



                $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
                (lots of debugging)
                $


                You should see a lot of debugging, and NOT the error line at the end.



                To be sure, re-run the configuration. It should end immediately without any logs:



                $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
                $


                Now, you can restore the zz-update-grub file, just in case you want to install an other kernel later and Grub start to work with overlayfs...






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                  i found this solution also on askubuntu and i apply it and worked for me and i share again here:



                  gksudo gedit /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub


                  **



                  Comment out line 15



                  **



                  BEFORE



                  */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
                  exec update-grub
                  ;;


                  AFTER



                      */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
                  # exec update-grub
                  ;;


                  Run the configuration script:



                  $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
                  (lots of debugging)
                  $


                  You should see a lot of debugging, and NOT the error line at the end.



                  To be sure, re-run the configuration. It should end immediately without any logs:



                  $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
                  $


                  Now, you can restore the zz-update-grub file, just in case you want to install an other kernel later and Grub start to work with overlayfs...






                  share|improve this answer












                  i found this solution also on askubuntu and i apply it and worked for me and i share again here:



                  gksudo gedit /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub


                  **



                  Comment out line 15



                  **



                  BEFORE



                  */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
                  exec update-grub
                  ;;


                  AFTER



                      */postinst.d/*:|*/postinst.d/*:configure|*/postrm.d/*:|*/postrm.d/*:remove)
                  # exec update-grub
                  ;;


                  Run the configuration script:



                  $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
                  (lots of debugging)
                  $


                  You should see a lot of debugging, and NOT the error line at the end.



                  To be sure, re-run the configuration. It should end immediately without any logs:



                  $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
                  $


                  Now, you can restore the zz-update-grub file, just in case you want to install an other kernel later and Grub start to work with overlayfs...







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                      This is apparently a common question no one replied correctly to.



                      None of the existing ISO9660-based live operating systems provide a kernel update feature: the kernel and the initrd are the only components that a live operating system cannot update, because they lay outside of the data persistence partition (if any) and the system partition is, as said, ISO9660-formatted.



                      After some years of asking me why, I found the liveng whitepaper on Read the Docs.




                      The full aim of the liveng project is to give the Community a set of
                      best practices in order to turn a common Debian Linux live into a
                      live(ng) operating system which features:



                      native encrypted persistence;
                      kernel update (on a live ISO 9660 filesystem!);
                      UEFI, with UEFI Secure Boot compatibility, with a real efi partition.



                      Tails is another example of live system with kernel update facility, but its filesystem is FAT, not so-good for a live...






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                        This is apparently a common question no one replied correctly to.



                        None of the existing ISO9660-based live operating systems provide a kernel update feature: the kernel and the initrd are the only components that a live operating system cannot update, because they lay outside of the data persistence partition (if any) and the system partition is, as said, ISO9660-formatted.



                        After some years of asking me why, I found the liveng whitepaper on Read the Docs.




                        The full aim of the liveng project is to give the Community a set of
                        best practices in order to turn a common Debian Linux live into a
                        live(ng) operating system which features:



                        native encrypted persistence;
                        kernel update (on a live ISO 9660 filesystem!);
                        UEFI, with UEFI Secure Boot compatibility, with a real efi partition.



                        Tails is another example of live system with kernel update facility, but its filesystem is FAT, not so-good for a live...






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                          This is apparently a common question no one replied correctly to.



                          None of the existing ISO9660-based live operating systems provide a kernel update feature: the kernel and the initrd are the only components that a live operating system cannot update, because they lay outside of the data persistence partition (if any) and the system partition is, as said, ISO9660-formatted.



                          After some years of asking me why, I found the liveng whitepaper on Read the Docs.




                          The full aim of the liveng project is to give the Community a set of
                          best practices in order to turn a common Debian Linux live into a
                          live(ng) operating system which features:



                          native encrypted persistence;
                          kernel update (on a live ISO 9660 filesystem!);
                          UEFI, with UEFI Secure Boot compatibility, with a real efi partition.



                          Tails is another example of live system with kernel update facility, but its filesystem is FAT, not so-good for a live...






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                          This is apparently a common question no one replied correctly to.



                          None of the existing ISO9660-based live operating systems provide a kernel update feature: the kernel and the initrd are the only components that a live operating system cannot update, because they lay outside of the data persistence partition (if any) and the system partition is, as said, ISO9660-formatted.



                          After some years of asking me why, I found the liveng whitepaper on Read the Docs.




                          The full aim of the liveng project is to give the Community a set of
                          best practices in order to turn a common Debian Linux live into a
                          live(ng) operating system which features:



                          native encrypted persistence;
                          kernel update (on a live ISO 9660 filesystem!);
                          UEFI, with UEFI Secure Boot compatibility, with a real efi partition.



                          Tails is another example of live system with kernel update facility, but its filesystem is FAT, not so-good for a live...







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