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Denote by $C^1([a,b])$ the vector space of continuously differentiable functions with derivatives at $a,b$ defined as one-sided limits. I was wondering whether the linear subspace $C^1([-1,1])$ of $C^0([-1,1])$ closed with respect to $||cdot||_{C^0}$?



I thought it was not, and I wanted to prove that $|x|$ is a limit point of $C^1([-1,1])$ implying $C^1([-1,1])$ is not closed. However, I have troubles finding a sequence of differentiable functions which converges to $|x|$. Any suggestions would be appreciated!






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    Denote by $C^1([a,b])$ the vector space of continuously differentiable functions with derivatives at $a,b$ defined as one-sided limits. I was wondering whether the linear subspace $C^1([-1,1])$ of $C^0([-1,1])$ closed with respect to $||cdot||_{C^0}$?



    I thought it was not, and I wanted to prove that $|x|$ is a limit point of $C^1([-1,1])$ implying $C^1([-1,1])$ is not closed. However, I have troubles finding a sequence of differentiable functions which converges to $|x|$. Any suggestions would be appreciated!






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      Denote by $C^1([a,b])$ the vector space of continuously differentiable functions with derivatives at $a,b$ defined as one-sided limits. I was wondering whether the linear subspace $C^1([-1,1])$ of $C^0([-1,1])$ closed with respect to $||cdot||_{C^0}$?



      I thought it was not, and I wanted to prove that $|x|$ is a limit point of $C^1([-1,1])$ implying $C^1([-1,1])$ is not closed. However, I have troubles finding a sequence of differentiable functions which converges to $|x|$. Any suggestions would be appreciated!






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      Denote by $C^1([a,b])$ the vector space of continuously differentiable functions with derivatives at $a,b$ defined as one-sided limits. I was wondering whether the linear subspace $C^1([-1,1])$ of $C^0([-1,1])$ closed with respect to $||cdot||_{C^0}$?



      I thought it was not, and I wanted to prove that $|x|$ is a limit point of $C^1([-1,1])$ implying $C^1([-1,1])$ is not closed. However, I have troubles finding a sequence of differentiable functions which converges to $|x|$. Any suggestions would be appreciated!






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          Hint: If $xin[-1,1]$, what is $displaystylelim_{ntoinfty}sqrt{x^2+frac1{n^2}}$?






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          • Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
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          It's not closed, which is a result of the Weierstrass Approxmation Theorem: Given any $fin C^0[-1,1]$ and any $epsilon >0$, there is a polynomial $p$ such that $|f-p|_{C^0} < epsilon$. In fact this shows that $C^infty$ is not a closed subspace of $C^0$ since polynomials are smooth.






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            Hint: If $xin[-1,1]$, what is $displaystylelim_{ntoinfty}sqrt{x^2+frac1{n^2}}$?






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            • Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
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            • One can and one should.
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            Hint: If $xin[-1,1]$, what is $displaystylelim_{ntoinfty}sqrt{x^2+frac1{n^2}}$?






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            • Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
              – James
              Nov 26 '18 at 20:19










            • One can and one should.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 26 '18 at 20:22














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            Hint: If $xin[-1,1]$, what is $displaystylelim_{ntoinfty}sqrt{x^2+frac1{n^2}}$?






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            • Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
              – James
              Nov 26 '18 at 20:19










            • One can and one should.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 26 '18 at 20:22


















            • Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
              – James
              Nov 26 '18 at 20:19










            • One can and one should.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 26 '18 at 20:22
















            Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
            – James
            Nov 26 '18 at 20:19




            Then one would have to show that $||sqrt{x^2+frac{1}{n^2}}-sqrt{x^2}||_{C^0}to 0$ as $ntoinfty$. Could one use uniform convergence for that?
            – James
            Nov 26 '18 at 20:19












            One can and one should.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 26 '18 at 20:22




            One can and one should.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 26 '18 at 20:22











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            It's not closed, which is a result of the Weierstrass Approxmation Theorem: Given any $fin C^0[-1,1]$ and any $epsilon >0$, there is a polynomial $p$ such that $|f-p|_{C^0} < epsilon$. In fact this shows that $C^infty$ is not a closed subspace of $C^0$ since polynomials are smooth.






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              It's not closed, which is a result of the Weierstrass Approxmation Theorem: Given any $fin C^0[-1,1]$ and any $epsilon >0$, there is a polynomial $p$ such that $|f-p|_{C^0} < epsilon$. In fact this shows that $C^infty$ is not a closed subspace of $C^0$ since polynomials are smooth.






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                It's not closed, which is a result of the Weierstrass Approxmation Theorem: Given any $fin C^0[-1,1]$ and any $epsilon >0$, there is a polynomial $p$ such that $|f-p|_{C^0} < epsilon$. In fact this shows that $C^infty$ is not a closed subspace of $C^0$ since polynomials are smooth.






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                It's not closed, which is a result of the Weierstrass Approxmation Theorem: Given any $fin C^0[-1,1]$ and any $epsilon >0$, there is a polynomial $p$ such that $|f-p|_{C^0} < epsilon$. In fact this shows that $C^infty$ is not a closed subspace of $C^0$ since polynomials are smooth.







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