Find the range of values which has no real solutions
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I would like to know how to solve the following problem:
Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.
I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.
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I would like to know how to solve the following problem:
Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.
I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.
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I would like to know how to solve the following problem:
Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.
I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.
roots quadratics
I would like to know how to solve the following problem:
Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.
I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.
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roots quadratics
edited Nov 18 at 14:47
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No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
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Guide:
- A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.
- First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.
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If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?
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Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.
$$Delta = b^2-4ac$$
$$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$
The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$
Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.
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4 Answers
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active
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active
oldest
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No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
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No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
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No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.
No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.
answered Nov 18 at 14:47
José Carlos Santos
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142k20111207
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
add a comment |
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
– Mark Bennet
Nov 18 at 16:14
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Guide:
- A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.
- First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.
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Guide:
- A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.
- First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.
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Guide:
- A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.
- First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.
Guide:
- A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.
- First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.
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If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?
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If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?
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If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?
If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?
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Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.
$$Delta = b^2-4ac$$
$$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$
The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$
Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.
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Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.
$$Delta = b^2-4ac$$
$$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$
The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$
Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.
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Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.
$$Delta = b^2-4ac$$
$$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$
The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$
Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.
Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.
$$Delta = b^2-4ac$$
$$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$
The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$
Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.
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