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I would like to know how to solve the following problem:




Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.




I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.










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    I would like to know how to solve the following problem:




    Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.




    I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
    But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.










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      I would like to know how to solve the following problem:




      Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.




      I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
      But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.










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      I would like to know how to solve the following problem:




      Find the range of values of the parameter $m$ for which the equation $2x^2 - mx + m = 0$ has no real solutions.




      I know I have to use the quadratic formula and the response is $0 < m < 8$.
      But what I don't know is how to proceed to find this answer. Thanks for your help.







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          No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.






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          • If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
            – Mark Bennet
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          Guide:




          • A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.

          • First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.






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            If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?



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              Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.



              $$Delta = b^2-4ac$$



              $$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$



              The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$



              Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.






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                No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.






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                • If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
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                No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.






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                • If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
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                No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.






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                No, you don't have to use the quadratic formula. Sincebegin{align}2x^2-mx+m&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+m-frac{m^2}8\&=2left(x-frac m4right)^2+frac{8m-m^2}8end{align}it s clear that your equation has no roots if and only if $8m-m^2>0$. And, since $8m-m^2=m(8-m)$, this occurs if and only if $min(0,8)$.







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                • If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
                  – Mark Bennet
                  Nov 18 at 16:14




















                • If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
                  – Mark Bennet
                  Nov 18 at 16:14


















                If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
                – Mark Bennet
                Nov 18 at 16:14






                If you multiply first by $8=4times 2$ (four times the coefficient of $x^2$) it has the effect of clearing fractions. But this procedure of simply competing the square is the simplest and also makes it easier to see what is going on.
                – Mark Bennet
                Nov 18 at 16:14












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                Guide:




                • A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.

                • First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.






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                  Guide:




                  • A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.

                  • First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.






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                    Guide:




                    • A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.

                    • First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.






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                    Guide:




                    • A quadratic equality has no real solution if and only the discriminant is negative.

                    • First, find the discriminant, find out when is it negative.







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                        If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?



                        enter image description here






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                          If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?



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                            If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?



                            enter image description here






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                            If you rearange equation like this $$m= {2x^2over x-1}$$ you must figer out for witch $m$ graph of $f(x) = {2x^2over x-1}$ does not cuts the line $y=m$ ?



                            enter image description here







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                                Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.



                                $$Delta = b^2-4ac$$



                                $$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$



                                The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$



                                Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.






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                                  Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.



                                  $$Delta = b^2-4ac$$



                                  $$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$



                                  The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$



                                  Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.






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                                    Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.



                                    $$Delta = b^2-4ac$$



                                    $$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$



                                    The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$



                                    Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.






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                                    Hint: A quadratic equation has no real roots iff the discriminant is negative.



                                    $$Delta = b^2-4ac$$



                                    $$Delta < 0 implies b^2-4ac < 0$$



                                    The given quadratic equation is $$color{blue}{2}x^2color{purple}{-m}xcolor{green}{+m} = 0$$



                                    Identifying what $a$, $b$, and $c$ are, you only have to set $b^2-4ac < 0$ and see what values of $m$ satisfy that condition.







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