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So I need to prove $$mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3+1)$$ is isomorphic to $mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}$, where $mathbb{C}$ is the field of complex numbers. Based on an example in the book I feel like the answer might have to do with representing the elements of the field using the division algorithm of $mathbb{C}$, but I'm honestly not sure and don't really now how to start here. Quotient groups tend to be kind of unintuitive for me.










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  • The quotient of the polynomial ring $C[x]$ by a polynomial of degree $n$ is always an $n$-dimensional vector space over $C$ (with $1, x, x^2, ldots, x^{n-1}$ as a basis). (I assume that by "C X C X C" you mean $C times C times C$, i.e., $C^3$.)
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  • @Rob: the isomorphism here is presumably one of rings, given the tags. Mason, are you familiar with the Chinese remainder theorem?
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  • We've worked with it a bit in class, but I honestly don't understand the ring version very well.
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    Here's one way to move toward the answer: what are all the homomorphisms $mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3 + 1) to mathbb{C}$ of $mathbb{C}$-algebras? You should find that there are exactly three; use all of them.
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So I need to prove $$mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3+1)$$ is isomorphic to $mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}$, where $mathbb{C}$ is the field of complex numbers. Based on an example in the book I feel like the answer might have to do with representing the elements of the field using the division algorithm of $mathbb{C}$, but I'm honestly not sure and don't really now how to start here. Quotient groups tend to be kind of unintuitive for me.










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  • The quotient of the polynomial ring $C[x]$ by a polynomial of degree $n$ is always an $n$-dimensional vector space over $C$ (with $1, x, x^2, ldots, x^{n-1}$ as a basis). (I assume that by "C X C X C" you mean $C times C times C$, i.e., $C^3$.)
    – Rob Arthan
    Nov 17 at 23:19












  • @Rob: the isomorphism here is presumably one of rings, given the tags. Mason, are you familiar with the Chinese remainder theorem?
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Nov 18 at 0:43










  • We've worked with it a bit in class, but I honestly don't understand the ring version very well.
    – Mason
    Nov 18 at 0:48






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    Here's one way to move toward the answer: what are all the homomorphisms $mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3 + 1) to mathbb{C}$ of $mathbb{C}$-algebras? You should find that there are exactly three; use all of them.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Nov 18 at 1:44













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So I need to prove $$mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3+1)$$ is isomorphic to $mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}$, where $mathbb{C}$ is the field of complex numbers. Based on an example in the book I feel like the answer might have to do with representing the elements of the field using the division algorithm of $mathbb{C}$, but I'm honestly not sure and don't really now how to start here. Quotient groups tend to be kind of unintuitive for me.










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So I need to prove $$mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3+1)$$ is isomorphic to $mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}$, where $mathbb{C}$ is the field of complex numbers. Based on an example in the book I feel like the answer might have to do with representing the elements of the field using the division algorithm of $mathbb{C}$, but I'm honestly not sure and don't really now how to start here. Quotient groups tend to be kind of unintuitive for me.







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  • The quotient of the polynomial ring $C[x]$ by a polynomial of degree $n$ is always an $n$-dimensional vector space over $C$ (with $1, x, x^2, ldots, x^{n-1}$ as a basis). (I assume that by "C X C X C" you mean $C times C times C$, i.e., $C^3$.)
    – Rob Arthan
    Nov 17 at 23:19












  • @Rob: the isomorphism here is presumably one of rings, given the tags. Mason, are you familiar with the Chinese remainder theorem?
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Nov 18 at 0:43










  • We've worked with it a bit in class, but I honestly don't understand the ring version very well.
    – Mason
    Nov 18 at 0:48






  • 1




    Here's one way to move toward the answer: what are all the homomorphisms $mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3 + 1) to mathbb{C}$ of $mathbb{C}$-algebras? You should find that there are exactly three; use all of them.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Nov 18 at 1:44


















  • The quotient of the polynomial ring $C[x]$ by a polynomial of degree $n$ is always an $n$-dimensional vector space over $C$ (with $1, x, x^2, ldots, x^{n-1}$ as a basis). (I assume that by "C X C X C" you mean $C times C times C$, i.e., $C^3$.)
    – Rob Arthan
    Nov 17 at 23:19












  • @Rob: the isomorphism here is presumably one of rings, given the tags. Mason, are you familiar with the Chinese remainder theorem?
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Nov 18 at 0:43










  • We've worked with it a bit in class, but I honestly don't understand the ring version very well.
    – Mason
    Nov 18 at 0:48






  • 1




    Here's one way to move toward the answer: what are all the homomorphisms $mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3 + 1) to mathbb{C}$ of $mathbb{C}$-algebras? You should find that there are exactly three; use all of them.
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Nov 18 at 1:44
















The quotient of the polynomial ring $C[x]$ by a polynomial of degree $n$ is always an $n$-dimensional vector space over $C$ (with $1, x, x^2, ldots, x^{n-1}$ as a basis). (I assume that by "C X C X C" you mean $C times C times C$, i.e., $C^3$.)
– Rob Arthan
Nov 17 at 23:19






The quotient of the polynomial ring $C[x]$ by a polynomial of degree $n$ is always an $n$-dimensional vector space over $C$ (with $1, x, x^2, ldots, x^{n-1}$ as a basis). (I assume that by "C X C X C" you mean $C times C times C$, i.e., $C^3$.)
– Rob Arthan
Nov 17 at 23:19














@Rob: the isomorphism here is presumably one of rings, given the tags. Mason, are you familiar with the Chinese remainder theorem?
– Qiaochu Yuan
Nov 18 at 0:43




@Rob: the isomorphism here is presumably one of rings, given the tags. Mason, are you familiar with the Chinese remainder theorem?
– Qiaochu Yuan
Nov 18 at 0:43












We've worked with it a bit in class, but I honestly don't understand the ring version very well.
– Mason
Nov 18 at 0:48




We've worked with it a bit in class, but I honestly don't understand the ring version very well.
– Mason
Nov 18 at 0:48




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Here's one way to move toward the answer: what are all the homomorphisms $mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3 + 1) to mathbb{C}$ of $mathbb{C}$-algebras? You should find that there are exactly three; use all of them.
– Qiaochu Yuan
Nov 18 at 1:44




Here's one way to move toward the answer: what are all the homomorphisms $mathbb{C}[x]/(x^3 + 1) to mathbb{C}$ of $mathbb{C}$-algebras? You should find that there are exactly three; use all of them.
– Qiaochu Yuan
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I don't know if you still need the answer, but here it goes:
First notice that $x = -1$ is a root of $x^3 + 1$ and then you can divide $x^3 + 1$ by $x+1$ using your favorite method to obtain:



$$x^3 + 1 = (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)$$



Now notice that you wrote your polynomial as product of irreducible/prime elements, which means that the ideals $langle x+1 rangle$, $leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ and $leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ are coprimes and you can use the Chinese remainder theorem to obtain:



begin{align}
frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x^3+1 rangle} & = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)rightrangle} \
& = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x+1rightrangle leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{CRT}{cong} frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x+1 rangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{ev}{cong} mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}
end{align}



Here $ev_{alpha} : mathbb{C}[x] to mathbb{C}$ is the evaluation map, ie, $ev_{alpha}(p(x)) = p(alpha)$. Can you see that $ev_{alpha}$ induces an isomorphism between $mathbb{C}[x]/langle x-alpha rangle$ and $mathbb{C}$?






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  • I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
    – Mason
    Dec 4 at 16:41












  • It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
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I don't know if you still need the answer, but here it goes:
First notice that $x = -1$ is a root of $x^3 + 1$ and then you can divide $x^3 + 1$ by $x+1$ using your favorite method to obtain:



$$x^3 + 1 = (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)$$



Now notice that you wrote your polynomial as product of irreducible/prime elements, which means that the ideals $langle x+1 rangle$, $leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ and $leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ are coprimes and you can use the Chinese remainder theorem to obtain:



begin{align}
frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x^3+1 rangle} & = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)rightrangle} \
& = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x+1rightrangle leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{CRT}{cong} frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x+1 rangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{ev}{cong} mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}
end{align}



Here $ev_{alpha} : mathbb{C}[x] to mathbb{C}$ is the evaluation map, ie, $ev_{alpha}(p(x)) = p(alpha)$. Can you see that $ev_{alpha}$ induces an isomorphism between $mathbb{C}[x]/langle x-alpha rangle$ and $mathbb{C}$?






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  • I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
    – Mason
    Dec 4 at 16:41












  • It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
    – Bias of Priene
    Dec 4 at 23:48















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I don't know if you still need the answer, but here it goes:
First notice that $x = -1$ is a root of $x^3 + 1$ and then you can divide $x^3 + 1$ by $x+1$ using your favorite method to obtain:



$$x^3 + 1 = (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)$$



Now notice that you wrote your polynomial as product of irreducible/prime elements, which means that the ideals $langle x+1 rangle$, $leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ and $leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ are coprimes and you can use the Chinese remainder theorem to obtain:



begin{align}
frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x^3+1 rangle} & = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)rightrangle} \
& = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x+1rightrangle leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{CRT}{cong} frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x+1 rangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{ev}{cong} mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}
end{align}



Here $ev_{alpha} : mathbb{C}[x] to mathbb{C}$ is the evaluation map, ie, $ev_{alpha}(p(x)) = p(alpha)$. Can you see that $ev_{alpha}$ induces an isomorphism between $mathbb{C}[x]/langle x-alpha rangle$ and $mathbb{C}$?






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  • I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
    – Mason
    Dec 4 at 16:41












  • It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
    – Bias of Priene
    Dec 4 at 23:48













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I don't know if you still need the answer, but here it goes:
First notice that $x = -1$ is a root of $x^3 + 1$ and then you can divide $x^3 + 1$ by $x+1$ using your favorite method to obtain:



$$x^3 + 1 = (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)$$



Now notice that you wrote your polynomial as product of irreducible/prime elements, which means that the ideals $langle x+1 rangle$, $leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ and $leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ are coprimes and you can use the Chinese remainder theorem to obtain:



begin{align}
frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x^3+1 rangle} & = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)rightrangle} \
& = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x+1rightrangle leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{CRT}{cong} frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x+1 rangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{ev}{cong} mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}
end{align}



Here $ev_{alpha} : mathbb{C}[x] to mathbb{C}$ is the evaluation map, ie, $ev_{alpha}(p(x)) = p(alpha)$. Can you see that $ev_{alpha}$ induces an isomorphism between $mathbb{C}[x]/langle x-alpha rangle$ and $mathbb{C}$?






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I don't know if you still need the answer, but here it goes:
First notice that $x = -1$ is a root of $x^3 + 1$ and then you can divide $x^3 + 1$ by $x+1$ using your favorite method to obtain:



$$x^3 + 1 = (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)$$



Now notice that you wrote your polynomial as product of irreducible/prime elements, which means that the ideals $langle x+1 rangle$, $leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ and $leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle$ are coprimes and you can use the Chinese remainder theorem to obtain:



begin{align}
frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x^3+1 rangle} & = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle (x+1)left(x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2}right)left(x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2}right)rightrangle} \
& = frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x+1rightrangle leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle leftlangle x - frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{CRT}{cong} frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{langle x+1 rangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1+isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} times frac{mathbb{C}[x]}{leftlangle x-frac{1-isqrt{3}}{2} rightrangle} \
& overset{ev}{cong} mathbb{C} times mathbb{C} times mathbb{C}
end{align}



Here $ev_{alpha} : mathbb{C}[x] to mathbb{C}$ is the evaluation map, ie, $ev_{alpha}(p(x)) = p(alpha)$. Can you see that $ev_{alpha}$ induces an isomorphism between $mathbb{C}[x]/langle x-alpha rangle$ and $mathbb{C}$?







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  • I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
    – Mason
    Dec 4 at 16:41












  • It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
    – Bias of Priene
    Dec 4 at 23:48


















  • I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
    – Mason
    Dec 4 at 16:41












  • It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
    – Bias of Priene
    Dec 4 at 23:48
















I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
– Mason
Dec 4 at 16:41






I did eventually get it, I think my main problem was I just didn't remember the CRT at all. Thank you for the help thou, this will probably also help anybody else with a similar problem.
– Mason
Dec 4 at 16:41














It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
– Bias of Priene
Dec 4 at 23:48




It's just practice. I also didn't remember until Qiaochu commented, but I did the general case for any polynomial once. Could you accept the answer?
– Bias of Priene
Dec 4 at 23:48


















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