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There is one quarter circle have radius same as side of square. There is semi-circle that has diameter equal to side of square. Then find radius of circle which is tangent to these circle and side of square.



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    There is one quarter circle have radius same as side of square. There is semi-circle that has diameter equal to side of square. Then find radius of circle which is tangent to these circle and side of square.



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          Hint: For each of the two large circles, construct the right triangle with hypotenuse connecting the center to the center of the small circle and legs parallel to the sides of the square.



          Let $x$ denote the distance between the lower left corner of the square and the point of tangency between the bottom side and the small circle.



          Pythagorus gives us two equations:



          $$(4-r)^2+x^2=(4+r)^2quad & quad (2-r)^2+(4-x)^2=(2+r)^2$$






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          • This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
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          A geometric construction based on the use of conic sections:




          • Locus of the centers of circles touching two given circles is a hyperbola, whose foci are the centers of the given circles as explained here.

          • Locus of the centers of circles touching a given circle and a straight line is a parabola. Its focus is located in the center of the given circle, and the directrix is parallel to the given line, the given line being equidistant to the focus and directrix.

            In the enclosed figure is the focus $A$ and the straight line $CD.$ The directrix lies bellow, and is out of the picture.


          GeoGebra gives a nice picture, but the computation of the radius based on this method would be rather boring.



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            Hint: My attempt would be to formulate the equations for the three circles and the line segement and then check if there is a common solution possible. (Two intersection points with the circles, one with the line)



            Circle: $(x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2$

            Line: $A x + B y = C$



            Looks close to Descartes theorem, by the way.



            Update:



            Choosing the lower left corner as origin we get the equations:



            Large circle
            $$
            x^2 + (y - 4)^2 = 4^2 quadquad (L)
            $$



            Medium sized circle
            $$
            (x-4)^2 + (y-2)^2 = 2^2 quadquad (M)
            $$



            Small circle
            $$
            (x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2 = r^2 quadquad (S)
            $$



            Line segment
            $$
            x in [0, 4] quad y = 0 quadquad (LS)
            $$



            The small circle touches the line segment from above, if the center is
            $$
            (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, r)
            $$

            for some $x_0$.






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            • I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
              – Angelus Mortis
              Nov 20 at 12:45










            • I will expand it a bit later today.
              – mvw
              Nov 20 at 15:40


















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            up vote
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            down vote



            accepted










            Hint: For each of the two large circles, construct the right triangle with hypotenuse connecting the center to the center of the small circle and legs parallel to the sides of the square.



            Let $x$ denote the distance between the lower left corner of the square and the point of tangency between the bottom side and the small circle.



            Pythagorus gives us two equations:



            $$(4-r)^2+x^2=(4+r)^2quad & quad (2-r)^2+(4-x)^2=(2+r)^2$$






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
              – user376343
              Nov 20 at 13:37















            up vote
            2
            down vote



            accepted










            Hint: For each of the two large circles, construct the right triangle with hypotenuse connecting the center to the center of the small circle and legs parallel to the sides of the square.



            Let $x$ denote the distance between the lower left corner of the square and the point of tangency between the bottom side and the small circle.



            Pythagorus gives us two equations:



            $$(4-r)^2+x^2=(4+r)^2quad & quad (2-r)^2+(4-x)^2=(2+r)^2$$






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
              – user376343
              Nov 20 at 13:37













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            2
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            accepted







            up vote
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            accepted






            Hint: For each of the two large circles, construct the right triangle with hypotenuse connecting the center to the center of the small circle and legs parallel to the sides of the square.



            Let $x$ denote the distance between the lower left corner of the square and the point of tangency between the bottom side and the small circle.



            Pythagorus gives us two equations:



            $$(4-r)^2+x^2=(4+r)^2quad & quad (2-r)^2+(4-x)^2=(2+r)^2$$






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Hint: For each of the two large circles, construct the right triangle with hypotenuse connecting the center to the center of the small circle and legs parallel to the sides of the square.



            Let $x$ denote the distance between the lower left corner of the square and the point of tangency between the bottom side and the small circle.



            Pythagorus gives us two equations:



            $$(4-r)^2+x^2=(4+r)^2quad & quad (2-r)^2+(4-x)^2=(2+r)^2$$







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            answered Nov 20 at 11:31









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            • This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
              – user376343
              Nov 20 at 13:37


















            • This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
              – user376343
              Nov 20 at 13:37
















            This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
            – user376343
            Nov 20 at 13:37




            This is an excellent hint, accessible even for student with a basic knowledge of (analytic) geometry (+1)
            – user376343
            Nov 20 at 13:37










            up vote
            1
            down vote













            A geometric construction based on the use of conic sections:




            • Locus of the centers of circles touching two given circles is a hyperbola, whose foci are the centers of the given circles as explained here.

            • Locus of the centers of circles touching a given circle and a straight line is a parabola. Its focus is located in the center of the given circle, and the directrix is parallel to the given line, the given line being equidistant to the focus and directrix.

              In the enclosed figure is the focus $A$ and the straight line $CD.$ The directrix lies bellow, and is out of the picture.


            GeoGebra gives a nice picture, but the computation of the radius based on this method would be rather boring.



            enter image description here






            share|cite|improve this answer

























              up vote
              1
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              A geometric construction based on the use of conic sections:




              • Locus of the centers of circles touching two given circles is a hyperbola, whose foci are the centers of the given circles as explained here.

              • Locus of the centers of circles touching a given circle and a straight line is a parabola. Its focus is located in the center of the given circle, and the directrix is parallel to the given line, the given line being equidistant to the focus and directrix.

                In the enclosed figure is the focus $A$ and the straight line $CD.$ The directrix lies bellow, and is out of the picture.


              GeoGebra gives a nice picture, but the computation of the radius based on this method would be rather boring.



              enter image description here






              share|cite|improve this answer























                up vote
                1
                down vote










                up vote
                1
                down vote









                A geometric construction based on the use of conic sections:




                • Locus of the centers of circles touching two given circles is a hyperbola, whose foci are the centers of the given circles as explained here.

                • Locus of the centers of circles touching a given circle and a straight line is a parabola. Its focus is located in the center of the given circle, and the directrix is parallel to the given line, the given line being equidistant to the focus and directrix.

                  In the enclosed figure is the focus $A$ and the straight line $CD.$ The directrix lies bellow, and is out of the picture.


                GeoGebra gives a nice picture, but the computation of the radius based on this method would be rather boring.



                enter image description here






                share|cite|improve this answer












                A geometric construction based on the use of conic sections:




                • Locus of the centers of circles touching two given circles is a hyperbola, whose foci are the centers of the given circles as explained here.

                • Locus of the centers of circles touching a given circle and a straight line is a parabola. Its focus is located in the center of the given circle, and the directrix is parallel to the given line, the given line being equidistant to the focus and directrix.

                  In the enclosed figure is the focus $A$ and the straight line $CD.$ The directrix lies bellow, and is out of the picture.


                GeoGebra gives a nice picture, but the computation of the radius based on this method would be rather boring.



                enter image description here







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                answered Nov 20 at 14:00









                user376343

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                    Hint: My attempt would be to formulate the equations for the three circles and the line segement and then check if there is a common solution possible. (Two intersection points with the circles, one with the line)



                    Circle: $(x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2$

                    Line: $A x + B y = C$



                    Looks close to Descartes theorem, by the way.



                    Update:



                    Choosing the lower left corner as origin we get the equations:



                    Large circle
                    $$
                    x^2 + (y - 4)^2 = 4^2 quadquad (L)
                    $$



                    Medium sized circle
                    $$
                    (x-4)^2 + (y-2)^2 = 2^2 quadquad (M)
                    $$



                    Small circle
                    $$
                    (x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2 = r^2 quadquad (S)
                    $$



                    Line segment
                    $$
                    x in [0, 4] quad y = 0 quadquad (LS)
                    $$



                    The small circle touches the line segment from above, if the center is
                    $$
                    (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, r)
                    $$

                    for some $x_0$.






                    share|cite|improve this answer























                    • I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
                      – Angelus Mortis
                      Nov 20 at 12:45










                    • I will expand it a bit later today.
                      – mvw
                      Nov 20 at 15:40















                    up vote
                    1
                    down vote













                    Hint: My attempt would be to formulate the equations for the three circles and the line segement and then check if there is a common solution possible. (Two intersection points with the circles, one with the line)



                    Circle: $(x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2$

                    Line: $A x + B y = C$



                    Looks close to Descartes theorem, by the way.



                    Update:



                    Choosing the lower left corner as origin we get the equations:



                    Large circle
                    $$
                    x^2 + (y - 4)^2 = 4^2 quadquad (L)
                    $$



                    Medium sized circle
                    $$
                    (x-4)^2 + (y-2)^2 = 2^2 quadquad (M)
                    $$



                    Small circle
                    $$
                    (x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2 = r^2 quadquad (S)
                    $$



                    Line segment
                    $$
                    x in [0, 4] quad y = 0 quadquad (LS)
                    $$



                    The small circle touches the line segment from above, if the center is
                    $$
                    (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, r)
                    $$

                    for some $x_0$.






                    share|cite|improve this answer























                    • I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
                      – Angelus Mortis
                      Nov 20 at 12:45










                    • I will expand it a bit later today.
                      – mvw
                      Nov 20 at 15:40













                    up vote
                    1
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    1
                    down vote









                    Hint: My attempt would be to formulate the equations for the three circles and the line segement and then check if there is a common solution possible. (Two intersection points with the circles, one with the line)



                    Circle: $(x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2$

                    Line: $A x + B y = C$



                    Looks close to Descartes theorem, by the way.



                    Update:



                    Choosing the lower left corner as origin we get the equations:



                    Large circle
                    $$
                    x^2 + (y - 4)^2 = 4^2 quadquad (L)
                    $$



                    Medium sized circle
                    $$
                    (x-4)^2 + (y-2)^2 = 2^2 quadquad (M)
                    $$



                    Small circle
                    $$
                    (x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2 = r^2 quadquad (S)
                    $$



                    Line segment
                    $$
                    x in [0, 4] quad y = 0 quadquad (LS)
                    $$



                    The small circle touches the line segment from above, if the center is
                    $$
                    (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, r)
                    $$

                    for some $x_0$.






                    share|cite|improve this answer














                    Hint: My attempt would be to formulate the equations for the three circles and the line segement and then check if there is a common solution possible. (Two intersection points with the circles, one with the line)



                    Circle: $(x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2$

                    Line: $A x + B y = C$



                    Looks close to Descartes theorem, by the way.



                    Update:



                    Choosing the lower left corner as origin we get the equations:



                    Large circle
                    $$
                    x^2 + (y - 4)^2 = 4^2 quadquad (L)
                    $$



                    Medium sized circle
                    $$
                    (x-4)^2 + (y-2)^2 = 2^2 quadquad (M)
                    $$



                    Small circle
                    $$
                    (x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2 = r^2 quadquad (S)
                    $$



                    Line segment
                    $$
                    x in [0, 4] quad y = 0 quadquad (LS)
                    $$



                    The small circle touches the line segment from above, if the center is
                    $$
                    (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, r)
                    $$

                    for some $x_0$.







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                    answered Nov 20 at 11:32









                    mvw

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                    • I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
                      – Angelus Mortis
                      Nov 20 at 12:45










                    • I will expand it a bit later today.
                      – mvw
                      Nov 20 at 15:40


















                    • I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
                      – Angelus Mortis
                      Nov 20 at 12:45










                    • I will expand it a bit later today.
                      – mvw
                      Nov 20 at 15:40
















                    I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
                    – Angelus Mortis
                    Nov 20 at 12:45




                    I thought about Descartes theorem too but it won't apply here. Anyways I quite didn't understand your hint. sorry
                    – Angelus Mortis
                    Nov 20 at 12:45












                    I will expand it a bit later today.
                    – mvw
                    Nov 20 at 15:40




                    I will expand it a bit later today.
                    – mvw
                    Nov 20 at 15:40



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