Any ideas about the solution to this nonlinear ODE? $-u''-frac{1}{r}u'+e^u-e^{-u} = 0$
The ODE is $-u''-frac{1}{r}u'+e^u-e^{-u} = 0$, where u is a function of $r$ (i.e. $u(r)$) and $uin C^2{(-infty,0)cup(0,infty)}$. No initial condition is provided, so just try to find the general solution.
This question appears when I tried to find the fundamental solution of $-Delta u + e^u - e^{-u} = delta (vec{x})$ in 2-D, where $Delta$ stands for the Laplace operator and $delta(vec{x})$ stands for the Dirac's function. Since the pde equation is radially symmetric, it's reasonable to think $u$ as a univariate function of $r$ in polar coordinates.
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The ODE is $-u''-frac{1}{r}u'+e^u-e^{-u} = 0$, where u is a function of $r$ (i.e. $u(r)$) and $uin C^2{(-infty,0)cup(0,infty)}$. No initial condition is provided, so just try to find the general solution.
This question appears when I tried to find the fundamental solution of $-Delta u + e^u - e^{-u} = delta (vec{x})$ in 2-D, where $Delta$ stands for the Laplace operator and $delta(vec{x})$ stands for the Dirac's function. Since the pde equation is radially symmetric, it's reasonable to think $u$ as a univariate function of $r$ in polar coordinates.
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The ODE is $-u''-frac{1}{r}u'+e^u-e^{-u} = 0$, where u is a function of $r$ (i.e. $u(r)$) and $uin C^2{(-infty,0)cup(0,infty)}$. No initial condition is provided, so just try to find the general solution.
This question appears when I tried to find the fundamental solution of $-Delta u + e^u - e^{-u} = delta (vec{x})$ in 2-D, where $Delta$ stands for the Laplace operator and $delta(vec{x})$ stands for the Dirac's function. Since the pde equation is radially symmetric, it's reasonable to think $u$ as a univariate function of $r$ in polar coordinates.
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The ODE is $-u''-frac{1}{r}u'+e^u-e^{-u} = 0$, where u is a function of $r$ (i.e. $u(r)$) and $uin C^2{(-infty,0)cup(0,infty)}$. No initial condition is provided, so just try to find the general solution.
This question appears when I tried to find the fundamental solution of $-Delta u + e^u - e^{-u} = delta (vec{x})$ in 2-D, where $Delta$ stands for the Laplace operator and $delta(vec{x})$ stands for the Dirac's function. Since the pde equation is radially symmetric, it's reasonable to think $u$ as a univariate function of $r$ in polar coordinates.
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Hint:
Let $r=e^t$ ,
Then $t=ln r$
$dfrac{du}{dr}=dfrac{du}{dt}dfrac{dt}{dr}=dfrac{1}{r}dfrac{du}{dt}=e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dr^2}=dfrac{d}{dr}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)=dfrac{d}{dt}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)dfrac{dt}{dr}=left(e^{-t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)e^{-t}=e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$therefore-e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}+e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}+e^u-e^{-u}=0$
$e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^u-e^{-u}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^{2t+u}-e^{2t-u}$
Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
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Hint:
Let $r=e^t$ ,
Then $t=ln r$
$dfrac{du}{dr}=dfrac{du}{dt}dfrac{dt}{dr}=dfrac{1}{r}dfrac{du}{dt}=e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dr^2}=dfrac{d}{dr}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)=dfrac{d}{dt}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)dfrac{dt}{dr}=left(e^{-t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)e^{-t}=e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$therefore-e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}+e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}+e^u-e^{-u}=0$
$e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^u-e^{-u}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^{2t+u}-e^{2t-u}$
Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
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Hint:
Let $r=e^t$ ,
Then $t=ln r$
$dfrac{du}{dr}=dfrac{du}{dt}dfrac{dt}{dr}=dfrac{1}{r}dfrac{du}{dt}=e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dr^2}=dfrac{d}{dr}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)=dfrac{d}{dt}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)dfrac{dt}{dr}=left(e^{-t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)e^{-t}=e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$therefore-e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}+e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}+e^u-e^{-u}=0$
$e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^u-e^{-u}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^{2t+u}-e^{2t-u}$
Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
add a comment |
Hint:
Let $r=e^t$ ,
Then $t=ln r$
$dfrac{du}{dr}=dfrac{du}{dt}dfrac{dt}{dr}=dfrac{1}{r}dfrac{du}{dt}=e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dr^2}=dfrac{d}{dr}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)=dfrac{d}{dt}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)dfrac{dt}{dr}=left(e^{-t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)e^{-t}=e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$therefore-e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}+e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}+e^u-e^{-u}=0$
$e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^u-e^{-u}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^{2t+u}-e^{2t-u}$
Hint:
Let $r=e^t$ ,
Then $t=ln r$
$dfrac{du}{dr}=dfrac{du}{dt}dfrac{dt}{dr}=dfrac{1}{r}dfrac{du}{dt}=e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dr^2}=dfrac{d}{dr}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)=dfrac{d}{dt}left(e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)dfrac{dt}{dr}=left(e^{-t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-t}dfrac{du}{dt}right)e^{-t}=e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}$
$therefore-e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}+e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}-e^{-2t}dfrac{du}{dt}+e^u-e^{-u}=0$
$e^{-2t}dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^u-e^{-u}$
$dfrac{d^2u}{dt^2}=e^{2t+u}-e^{2t-u}$
answered Nov 27 '18 at 12:49
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Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
add a comment |
Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
Yes, this transformation is right and beautiful, but I don't know how to carry on. Would you explain the following steps please?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 0:28
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@U2647 You can rewrite the equation as $u'' = 2exp(2t)sinh(u)$, but there will be no closed form solution. If you seek solutions for $u$ near $0$, you can say $sinh(u)approx u$ and find solutions in terms of the modified Bessel functions.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:11
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@AlexanderJ93 So the approximate solution includes an imaginary part?
– U2647
Nov 28 '18 at 1:27
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
@U2647 They are real-valued functions for real and positive arguments.
– AlexanderJ93
Nov 28 '18 at 1:33
add a comment |
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