How many ways can I arrange 5 As, 6 Bs, and 3 Cs [duplicate]












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With requirement that $A$ precedes the first $B$ which precedes the first $C$.

Example: $AABABCBBAACBCB$ is correct and $BAAACBAACBCBBBB$ is incorrect.



I am thinking of using permutation, get the total number of ways of arranging them and divide the repeat.



There are $14$ spaces, $5$ ways of placing the first one ($5As$), $10$ ways of placing the second one $4As + 6Bs$, but how many ways to place $3rd$, $4th$ and the rest?










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With requirement that $A$ precedes the first $B$ which precedes the first $C$.

Example: $AABABCBBAACBCB$ is correct and $BAAACBAACBCBBBB$ is incorrect.



I am thinking of using permutation, get the total number of ways of arranging them and divide the repeat.



There are $14$ spaces, $5$ ways of placing the first one ($5As$), $10$ ways of placing the second one $4As + 6Bs$, but how many ways to place $3rd$, $4th$ and the rest?










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With requirement that $A$ precedes the first $B$ which precedes the first $C$.

Example: $AABABCBBAACBCB$ is correct and $BAAACBAACBCBBBB$ is incorrect.



I am thinking of using permutation, get the total number of ways of arranging them and divide the repeat.



There are $14$ spaces, $5$ ways of placing the first one ($5As$), $10$ ways of placing the second one $4As + 6Bs$, but how many ways to place $3rd$, $4th$ and the rest?










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With requirement that $A$ precedes the first $B$ which precedes the first $C$.

Example: $AABABCBBAACBCB$ is correct and $BAAACBAACBCBBBB$ is incorrect.



I am thinking of using permutation, get the total number of ways of arranging them and divide the repeat.



There are $14$ spaces, $5$ ways of placing the first one ($5As$), $10$ ways of placing the second one $4As + 6Bs$, but how many ways to place $3rd$, $4th$ and the rest?





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    $endgroup$
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    Dec 2 '18 at 23:19
















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Hint: a good arrangement must begin $A^nB$ for some $nin {1,2,3,4,5}$.
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We first ignore the $A$'s and build the rest of the string. How many ways can we make a string of $6$ $B$'s and $3$ $C$'s such that the first $B$ comes before the first $C$? Well, the first letter has to be a $B$, and then anything goes after that; this gives $binom{8}{5}$ such strings ($8$ remaining letters to place, $5$ of which are $B$'s and $3$ of which are $C$'s).



Now we want to add $A$'s into this string. Note that the first letter has to be an $A$, and then the other $4$ $A$'s can be placed anywhere in our existing string. If we treat the $B$'s and $C$'s (which we've already fixed) as dividers, we see that this is really a stars-and-bars problem with $6+3+1$ categories (there are $9$ $B$'s and $C$'s, so $10$ "spots" to put $A$'s, including before/after all of them). So the number of ways to put $A$'s into the string is $binom{9 + 4}{4}$.



Putting these together, the total number of such strings is $binom{8}{5} binom{13}{4} = 40040$.






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    We first ignore the $A$'s and build the rest of the string. How many ways can we make a string of $6$ $B$'s and $3$ $C$'s such that the first $B$ comes before the first $C$? Well, the first letter has to be a $B$, and then anything goes after that; this gives $binom{8}{5}$ such strings ($8$ remaining letters to place, $5$ of which are $B$'s and $3$ of which are $C$'s).



    Now we want to add $A$'s into this string. Note that the first letter has to be an $A$, and then the other $4$ $A$'s can be placed anywhere in our existing string. If we treat the $B$'s and $C$'s (which we've already fixed) as dividers, we see that this is really a stars-and-bars problem with $6+3+1$ categories (there are $9$ $B$'s and $C$'s, so $10$ "spots" to put $A$'s, including before/after all of them). So the number of ways to put $A$'s into the string is $binom{9 + 4}{4}$.



    Putting these together, the total number of such strings is $binom{8}{5} binom{13}{4} = 40040$.






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      We first ignore the $A$'s and build the rest of the string. How many ways can we make a string of $6$ $B$'s and $3$ $C$'s such that the first $B$ comes before the first $C$? Well, the first letter has to be a $B$, and then anything goes after that; this gives $binom{8}{5}$ such strings ($8$ remaining letters to place, $5$ of which are $B$'s and $3$ of which are $C$'s).



      Now we want to add $A$'s into this string. Note that the first letter has to be an $A$, and then the other $4$ $A$'s can be placed anywhere in our existing string. If we treat the $B$'s and $C$'s (which we've already fixed) as dividers, we see that this is really a stars-and-bars problem with $6+3+1$ categories (there are $9$ $B$'s and $C$'s, so $10$ "spots" to put $A$'s, including before/after all of them). So the number of ways to put $A$'s into the string is $binom{9 + 4}{4}$.



      Putting these together, the total number of such strings is $binom{8}{5} binom{13}{4} = 40040$.






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        We first ignore the $A$'s and build the rest of the string. How many ways can we make a string of $6$ $B$'s and $3$ $C$'s such that the first $B$ comes before the first $C$? Well, the first letter has to be a $B$, and then anything goes after that; this gives $binom{8}{5}$ such strings ($8$ remaining letters to place, $5$ of which are $B$'s and $3$ of which are $C$'s).



        Now we want to add $A$'s into this string. Note that the first letter has to be an $A$, and then the other $4$ $A$'s can be placed anywhere in our existing string. If we treat the $B$'s and $C$'s (which we've already fixed) as dividers, we see that this is really a stars-and-bars problem with $6+3+1$ categories (there are $9$ $B$'s and $C$'s, so $10$ "spots" to put $A$'s, including before/after all of them). So the number of ways to put $A$'s into the string is $binom{9 + 4}{4}$.



        Putting these together, the total number of such strings is $binom{8}{5} binom{13}{4} = 40040$.






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        We first ignore the $A$'s and build the rest of the string. How many ways can we make a string of $6$ $B$'s and $3$ $C$'s such that the first $B$ comes before the first $C$? Well, the first letter has to be a $B$, and then anything goes after that; this gives $binom{8}{5}$ such strings ($8$ remaining letters to place, $5$ of which are $B$'s and $3$ of which are $C$'s).



        Now we want to add $A$'s into this string. Note that the first letter has to be an $A$, and then the other $4$ $A$'s can be placed anywhere in our existing string. If we treat the $B$'s and $C$'s (which we've already fixed) as dividers, we see that this is really a stars-and-bars problem with $6+3+1$ categories (there are $9$ $B$'s and $C$'s, so $10$ "spots" to put $A$'s, including before/after all of them). So the number of ways to put $A$'s into the string is $binom{9 + 4}{4}$.



        Putting these together, the total number of such strings is $binom{8}{5} binom{13}{4} = 40040$.







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