Subjunctive present or future?
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In statements like this:
No creo que él te comprenda/comprendiere.
I don't believe that he'll understand you
Should subjunctive in the present or future be used? Is it "comprenda" or "comprendiere"?
gramática verbos subjuntivo tiempos-verbales futuro
asked Dec 1 at 13:00
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In statements like this:
No creo que él te comprenda/comprendiere.
I don't believe that he'll understand you
Should subjunctive in the present or future be used? Is it "comprenda" or "comprendiere"?
gramática verbos subjuntivo tiempos-verbales futuro
asked Dec 1 at 13:00
nylypej
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I do not know the answer to your question but I think you mean te not tú for you here and you do not need to specify he (él) if it is clear from the context.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 13:16
Possible duplicate of Futuro or Subjuntivo to talk about a belief in a future event in a negative form
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 14:13
@mdewey Note that the possible duplicate you indicated asks whether to use future indicative or present subjunctive, while this one asks for present or future subjunctive. I don't think it's a duplicate.
– pablodf76
Dec 1 at 14:28
@pablodf76 you are right, I retracted it.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 16:29
Did you mean he'll understand you?
– rsanchez
Dec 1 at 16:48
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In statements like this:
No creo que él te comprenda/comprendiere.
I don't believe that he'll understand you
Should subjunctive in the present or future be used? Is it "comprenda" or "comprendiere"?
gramática verbos subjuntivo tiempos-verbales futuro
asked Dec 1 at 13:00
nylypej
3878
In statements like this:
No creo que él te comprenda/comprendiere.
I don't believe that he'll understand you
Should subjunctive in the present or future be used? Is it "comprenda" or "comprendiere"?
gramática verbos subjuntivo tiempos-verbales futuro
gramática verbos subjuntivo tiempos-verbales futuro
asked Dec 1 at 13:00
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asked Dec 1 at 13:00
nylypej
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edited Dec 1 at 18:26
asked Dec 1 at 13:00
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asked Dec 1 at 13:00
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asked Dec 1 at 13:00
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I do not know the answer to your question but I think you mean te not tú for you here and you do not need to specify he (él) if it is clear from the context.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 13:16
Possible duplicate of Futuro or Subjuntivo to talk about a belief in a future event in a negative form
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 14:13
@mdewey Note that the possible duplicate you indicated asks whether to use future indicative or present subjunctive, while this one asks for present or future subjunctive. I don't think it's a duplicate.
– pablodf76
Dec 1 at 14:28
@pablodf76 you are right, I retracted it.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 16:29
Did you mean he'll understand you?
– rsanchez
Dec 1 at 16:48
add a comment |
I do not know the answer to your question but I think you mean te not tú for you here and you do not need to specify he (él) if it is clear from the context.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 13:16
Possible duplicate of Futuro or Subjuntivo to talk about a belief in a future event in a negative form
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 14:13
@mdewey Note that the possible duplicate you indicated asks whether to use future indicative or present subjunctive, while this one asks for present or future subjunctive. I don't think it's a duplicate.
– pablodf76
Dec 1 at 14:28
@pablodf76 you are right, I retracted it.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 16:29
Did you mean he'll understand you?
– rsanchez
Dec 1 at 16:48
I do not know the answer to your question but I think you mean te not tú for you here and you do not need to specify he (él) if it is clear from the context.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 13:16
I do not know the answer to your question but I think you mean te not tú for you here and you do not need to specify he (él) if it is clear from the context.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 13:16
Possible duplicate of Futuro or Subjuntivo to talk about a belief in a future event in a negative form
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 14:13
Possible duplicate of Futuro or Subjuntivo to talk about a belief in a future event in a negative form
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 14:13
@mdewey Note that the possible duplicate you indicated asks whether to use future indicative or present subjunctive, while this one asks for present or future subjunctive. I don't think it's a duplicate.
– pablodf76
Dec 1 at 14:28
@mdewey Note that the possible duplicate you indicated asks whether to use future indicative or present subjunctive, while this one asks for present or future subjunctive. I don't think it's a duplicate.
– pablodf76
Dec 1 at 14:28
@pablodf76 you are right, I retracted it.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 16:29
@pablodf76 you are right, I retracted it.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 16:29
Did you mean he'll understand you?
– rsanchez
Dec 1 at 16:48
Did you mean he'll understand you?
– rsanchez
Dec 1 at 16:48
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The future subjunctive is practically obsolete in Spanish. Nobody uses it anymore except in some very formal contexts (legal texts and the like). You can very well do without it while you study Spanish.
In this example of yours, moreover, the future subjunctive sounds very awkward. I cannot explain why, but it looks completely out of place. I have seen it used with:
si (si fuere, si estuviere, si viniere...)
cuando, donde (cuando fuere, donde estuviere...)
aunque (aunque viniere, aunque dijere...)
el/aquel que (aquel que hablare, el que pidiere...)
and so on, but I've never found it in this construction (meaning negative belief in the future, no creo que...).
Since this tense is practically forgotten, you can forget about it. You'll never use it yourself, and you'll only find it in legal texts, if at all.
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
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(Supplementary answer)
"No creo que él te comprenda" is definitely the better choice.
Please note that it is ambiguous without more context. It could mean a couple different things:
a) I don't think he's understanding you / he understands you [the implied time frame is now].
b) I don't think he will understand you (for example, if you present your idea that way) [the implied time frame is the future, for example tomorrow, next week, etc.].
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the future, you can say
No creo que él te vaya a entender
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the present, you could say
No creo que él te esté entendiendo
As a side note, "entender" is a more common, and more natural, choice than the obvious cognate "comprender."
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
No creo que él te vaya a entender--> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present.-- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?
– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
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The future subjunctive is practically obsolete in Spanish. Nobody uses it anymore except in some very formal contexts (legal texts and the like). You can very well do without it while you study Spanish.
In this example of yours, moreover, the future subjunctive sounds very awkward. I cannot explain why, but it looks completely out of place. I have seen it used with:
si (si fuere, si estuviere, si viniere...)
cuando, donde (cuando fuere, donde estuviere...)
aunque (aunque viniere, aunque dijere...)
el/aquel que (aquel que hablare, el que pidiere...)
and so on, but I've never found it in this construction (meaning negative belief in the future, no creo que...).
Since this tense is practically forgotten, you can forget about it. You'll never use it yourself, and you'll only find it in legal texts, if at all.
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
The future subjunctive is practically obsolete in Spanish. Nobody uses it anymore except in some very formal contexts (legal texts and the like). You can very well do without it while you study Spanish.
In this example of yours, moreover, the future subjunctive sounds very awkward. I cannot explain why, but it looks completely out of place. I have seen it used with:
si (si fuere, si estuviere, si viniere...)
cuando, donde (cuando fuere, donde estuviere...)
aunque (aunque viniere, aunque dijere...)
el/aquel que (aquel que hablare, el que pidiere...)
and so on, but I've never found it in this construction (meaning negative belief in the future, no creo que...).
Since this tense is practically forgotten, you can forget about it. You'll never use it yourself, and you'll only find it in legal texts, if at all.
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
The future subjunctive is practically obsolete in Spanish. Nobody uses it anymore except in some very formal contexts (legal texts and the like). You can very well do without it while you study Spanish.
In this example of yours, moreover, the future subjunctive sounds very awkward. I cannot explain why, but it looks completely out of place. I have seen it used with:
si (si fuere, si estuviere, si viniere...)
cuando, donde (cuando fuere, donde estuviere...)
aunque (aunque viniere, aunque dijere...)
el/aquel que (aquel que hablare, el que pidiere...)
and so on, but I've never found it in this construction (meaning negative belief in the future, no creo que...).
Since this tense is practically forgotten, you can forget about it. You'll never use it yourself, and you'll only find it in legal texts, if at all.
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
The future subjunctive is practically obsolete in Spanish. Nobody uses it anymore except in some very formal contexts (legal texts and the like). You can very well do without it while you study Spanish.
In this example of yours, moreover, the future subjunctive sounds very awkward. I cannot explain why, but it looks completely out of place. I have seen it used with:
si (si fuere, si estuviere, si viniere...)
cuando, donde (cuando fuere, donde estuviere...)
aunque (aunque viniere, aunque dijere...)
el/aquel que (aquel que hablare, el que pidiere...)
and so on, but I've never found it in this construction (meaning negative belief in the future, no creo que...).
Since this tense is practically forgotten, you can forget about it. You'll never use it yourself, and you'll only find it in legal texts, if at all.
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
19.5k11262
answered Dec 1 at 14:41
pablodf76
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19.5k11262
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
add a comment |
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
Also when it is used in modern Spanish, it's almost always in the format of the second or forth examples you give.
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:42
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
(Supplementary answer)
"No creo que él te comprenda" is definitely the better choice.
Please note that it is ambiguous without more context. It could mean a couple different things:
a) I don't think he's understanding you / he understands you [the implied time frame is now].
b) I don't think he will understand you (for example, if you present your idea that way) [the implied time frame is the future, for example tomorrow, next week, etc.].
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the future, you can say
No creo que él te vaya a entender
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the present, you could say
No creo que él te esté entendiendo
As a side note, "entender" is a more common, and more natural, choice than the obvious cognate "comprender."
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
No creo que él te vaya a entender--> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present.-- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?
– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
(Supplementary answer)
"No creo que él te comprenda" is definitely the better choice.
Please note that it is ambiguous without more context. It could mean a couple different things:
a) I don't think he's understanding you / he understands you [the implied time frame is now].
b) I don't think he will understand you (for example, if you present your idea that way) [the implied time frame is the future, for example tomorrow, next week, etc.].
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the future, you can say
No creo que él te vaya a entender
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the present, you could say
No creo que él te esté entendiendo
As a side note, "entender" is a more common, and more natural, choice than the obvious cognate "comprender."
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
No creo que él te vaya a entender--> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present.-- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?
– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
(Supplementary answer)
"No creo que él te comprenda" is definitely the better choice.
Please note that it is ambiguous without more context. It could mean a couple different things:
a) I don't think he's understanding you / he understands you [the implied time frame is now].
b) I don't think he will understand you (for example, if you present your idea that way) [the implied time frame is the future, for example tomorrow, next week, etc.].
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the future, you can say
No creo que él te vaya a entender
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the present, you could say
No creo que él te esté entendiendo
As a side note, "entender" is a more common, and more natural, choice than the obvious cognate "comprender."
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
(Supplementary answer)
"No creo que él te comprenda" is definitely the better choice.
Please note that it is ambiguous without more context. It could mean a couple different things:
a) I don't think he's understanding you / he understands you [the implied time frame is now].
b) I don't think he will understand you (for example, if you present your idea that way) [the implied time frame is the future, for example tomorrow, next week, etc.].
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the future, you can say
No creo que él te vaya a entender
If you want to give a clearer timeframe of the present, you could say
No creo que él te esté entendiendo
As a side note, "entender" is a more common, and more natural, choice than the obvious cognate "comprender."
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
answered Dec 2 at 5:44
aparente001
5,17531328
5,17531328
No creo que él te vaya a entender--> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present.-- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?
– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
add a comment |
No creo que él te vaya a entender--> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present.-- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?
– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
No creo que él te vaya a entender --> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
No creo que él te vaya a entender --> then why not use future subjunctive? instead of present subjunctive "vaya" + gerundio? after all, they both create a subjunctive future– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:33
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
@nylypej the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. This to refer to previous events you use the present perfect, and to future events using the periphrastic future
– guifa
Dec 2 at 14:44
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
and if it wasn't creo in particular?
– nylypej
Dec 2 at 14:48
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
@nylypej - such as which verbs? I'm having trouble thinking of very many that would fit, but here are a couple: "No sé si él te va a entender." "No me gusta la idea de que él te entienda."
– aparente001
Dec 2 at 19:55
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. -- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
the use of "creo" means that the subordinate clause should be anchored in the present. -- is this true only for the verb "creo"? or all the verbs?– nylypej
Dec 3 at 2:37
add a comment |
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I do not know the answer to your question but I think you mean te not tú for you here and you do not need to specify he (él) if it is clear from the context.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 13:16
Possible duplicate of Futuro or Subjuntivo to talk about a belief in a future event in a negative form
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 14:13
@mdewey Note that the possible duplicate you indicated asks whether to use future indicative or present subjunctive, while this one asks for present or future subjunctive. I don't think it's a duplicate.
– pablodf76
Dec 1 at 14:28
@pablodf76 you are right, I retracted it.
– mdewey
Dec 1 at 16:29
Did you mean he'll understand you?
– rsanchez
Dec 1 at 16:48