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Find the total number of non-negative integral ordered triplets for-
$$x_1+x_2+x_3=11$$
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  • $x_1in (2,6)$ and


  • $x_2 in (3,7)$.



I was generally able to solve such problems involving bounds by introducing a new variable but that was only in case of a single boundary condition.
How do I proceed when there are two?










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    Find the total number of non-negative integral ordered triplets for-
    $$x_1+x_2+x_3=11$$
    under the bounds,




    • $x_1in (2,6)$ and


    • $x_2 in (3,7)$.



    I was generally able to solve such problems involving bounds by introducing a new variable but that was only in case of a single boundary condition.
    How do I proceed when there are two?










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      Find the total number of non-negative integral ordered triplets for-
      $$x_1+x_2+x_3=11$$
      under the bounds,




      • $x_1in (2,6)$ and


      • $x_2 in (3,7)$.



      I was generally able to solve such problems involving bounds by introducing a new variable but that was only in case of a single boundary condition.
      How do I proceed when there are two?










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      Find the total number of non-negative integral ordered triplets for-
      $$x_1+x_2+x_3=11$$
      under the bounds,




      • $x_1in (2,6)$ and


      • $x_2 in (3,7)$.



      I was generally able to solve such problems involving bounds by introducing a new variable but that was only in case of a single boundary condition.
      How do I proceed when there are two?







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          I have figured out an approach using Multinomial Theorem-
          We can find the coefficient of x^11 in (x^3+x^4+x^5)(x^4+x^5++x^6)(x^1+x^2+x^3+x^4).



          This comes out to be 8.






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          • Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
            – Sameer Thakur
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          This can be solved using Bose-Einstein, which is also known as Bars and Stars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_bars_(combinatorics).



          In your case, you have 11 dots, and basically you want to put this 11 dots into 3 boxes. You only care how many dots are going in each box. For this you can use:
          $$binom{n + k - 1}{k-1}$$ and in your case: $$binom{11 + 3 - 1}{2}$$ This is including the solutions where you have 0 as possible value for some variables, so you might want to exclude those.



          First let's get all the possible solutions that match the lower bound.
          Smallest value for x1 is 3 and for x2 is 4. We can mark x1 and x2 as:
          $$x1 = y1 + 3\
          x2 = y2 + 4
          $$



          The new equation becomes: $$ y1 + 3 + y2 + 4 + x3 = 11 <=> y1 + y2 + x3 = 4 $$
          Now all the possible values are:
          $$ binom{4 + 3 - 1}{3 - 1}$$
          From this ones you need to substract all the values that have either x1 > 6 or x2 > 7. (They can't be both greater since the sum would be over the boundaries). So you can replace x1 with y1 + 6 and x2 with y2 + 7 and apply the same principle. After that you can substract these results from the total.






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          I have figured out an approach using Multinomial Theorem-
          We can find the coefficient of x^11 in (x^3+x^4+x^5)(x^4+x^5++x^6)(x^1+x^2+x^3+x^4).



          This comes out to be 8.






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          • Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
            – Sameer Thakur
            Nov 19 at 16:10















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          I have figured out an approach using Multinomial Theorem-
          We can find the coefficient of x^11 in (x^3+x^4+x^5)(x^4+x^5++x^6)(x^1+x^2+x^3+x^4).



          This comes out to be 8.






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          • Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
            – Sameer Thakur
            Nov 19 at 16:10













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          I have figured out an approach using Multinomial Theorem-
          We can find the coefficient of x^11 in (x^3+x^4+x^5)(x^4+x^5++x^6)(x^1+x^2+x^3+x^4).



          This comes out to be 8.






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          I have figured out an approach using Multinomial Theorem-
          We can find the coefficient of x^11 in (x^3+x^4+x^5)(x^4+x^5++x^6)(x^1+x^2+x^3+x^4).



          This comes out to be 8.







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          • Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
            – Sameer Thakur
            Nov 19 at 16:10


















          • Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
            – Sameer Thakur
            Nov 19 at 16:10
















          Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
          – Sameer Thakur
          Nov 19 at 16:10




          Can someone guide me as to whether this is a correct approach?
          – Sameer Thakur
          Nov 19 at 16:10










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          This can be solved using Bose-Einstein, which is also known as Bars and Stars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_bars_(combinatorics).



          In your case, you have 11 dots, and basically you want to put this 11 dots into 3 boxes. You only care how many dots are going in each box. For this you can use:
          $$binom{n + k - 1}{k-1}$$ and in your case: $$binom{11 + 3 - 1}{2}$$ This is including the solutions where you have 0 as possible value for some variables, so you might want to exclude those.



          First let's get all the possible solutions that match the lower bound.
          Smallest value for x1 is 3 and for x2 is 4. We can mark x1 and x2 as:
          $$x1 = y1 + 3\
          x2 = y2 + 4
          $$



          The new equation becomes: $$ y1 + 3 + y2 + 4 + x3 = 11 <=> y1 + y2 + x3 = 4 $$
          Now all the possible values are:
          $$ binom{4 + 3 - 1}{3 - 1}$$
          From this ones you need to substract all the values that have either x1 > 6 or x2 > 7. (They can't be both greater since the sum would be over the boundaries). So you can replace x1 with y1 + 6 and x2 with y2 + 7 and apply the same principle. After that you can substract these results from the total.






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          • I have edited the question.
            – Sameer Thakur
            Nov 19 at 15:32















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          This can be solved using Bose-Einstein, which is also known as Bars and Stars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_bars_(combinatorics).



          In your case, you have 11 dots, and basically you want to put this 11 dots into 3 boxes. You only care how many dots are going in each box. For this you can use:
          $$binom{n + k - 1}{k-1}$$ and in your case: $$binom{11 + 3 - 1}{2}$$ This is including the solutions where you have 0 as possible value for some variables, so you might want to exclude those.



          First let's get all the possible solutions that match the lower bound.
          Smallest value for x1 is 3 and for x2 is 4. We can mark x1 and x2 as:
          $$x1 = y1 + 3\
          x2 = y2 + 4
          $$



          The new equation becomes: $$ y1 + 3 + y2 + 4 + x3 = 11 <=> y1 + y2 + x3 = 4 $$
          Now all the possible values are:
          $$ binom{4 + 3 - 1}{3 - 1}$$
          From this ones you need to substract all the values that have either x1 > 6 or x2 > 7. (They can't be both greater since the sum would be over the boundaries). So you can replace x1 with y1 + 6 and x2 with y2 + 7 and apply the same principle. After that you can substract these results from the total.






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          • I have edited the question.
            – Sameer Thakur
            Nov 19 at 15:32













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          This can be solved using Bose-Einstein, which is also known as Bars and Stars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_bars_(combinatorics).



          In your case, you have 11 dots, and basically you want to put this 11 dots into 3 boxes. You only care how many dots are going in each box. For this you can use:
          $$binom{n + k - 1}{k-1}$$ and in your case: $$binom{11 + 3 - 1}{2}$$ This is including the solutions where you have 0 as possible value for some variables, so you might want to exclude those.



          First let's get all the possible solutions that match the lower bound.
          Smallest value for x1 is 3 and for x2 is 4. We can mark x1 and x2 as:
          $$x1 = y1 + 3\
          x2 = y2 + 4
          $$



          The new equation becomes: $$ y1 + 3 + y2 + 4 + x3 = 11 <=> y1 + y2 + x3 = 4 $$
          Now all the possible values are:
          $$ binom{4 + 3 - 1}{3 - 1}$$
          From this ones you need to substract all the values that have either x1 > 6 or x2 > 7. (They can't be both greater since the sum would be over the boundaries). So you can replace x1 with y1 + 6 and x2 with y2 + 7 and apply the same principle. After that you can substract these results from the total.






          share|cite|improve this answer














          This can be solved using Bose-Einstein, which is also known as Bars and Stars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_and_bars_(combinatorics).



          In your case, you have 11 dots, and basically you want to put this 11 dots into 3 boxes. You only care how many dots are going in each box. For this you can use:
          $$binom{n + k - 1}{k-1}$$ and in your case: $$binom{11 + 3 - 1}{2}$$ This is including the solutions where you have 0 as possible value for some variables, so you might want to exclude those.



          First let's get all the possible solutions that match the lower bound.
          Smallest value for x1 is 3 and for x2 is 4. We can mark x1 and x2 as:
          $$x1 = y1 + 3\
          x2 = y2 + 4
          $$



          The new equation becomes: $$ y1 + 3 + y2 + 4 + x3 = 11 <=> y1 + y2 + x3 = 4 $$
          Now all the possible values are:
          $$ binom{4 + 3 - 1}{3 - 1}$$
          From this ones you need to substract all the values that have either x1 > 6 or x2 > 7. (They can't be both greater since the sum would be over the boundaries). So you can replace x1 with y1 + 6 and x2 with y2 + 7 and apply the same principle. After that you can substract these results from the total.







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