In the UK Conservative party, what happens when a vote of no confidence in the leader fails?
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So Theresa May is facing a vote of no confidence in her leadership of the Conservative party today. It's unclear if she will be ousted or not.
What happens if the vote fails?
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So Theresa May is facing a vote of no confidence in her leadership of the Conservative party today. It's unclear if she will be ousted or not.
What happens if the vote fails?
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So Theresa May is facing a vote of no confidence in her leadership of the Conservative party today. It's unclear if she will be ousted or not.
What happens if the vote fails?
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So Theresa May is facing a vote of no confidence in her leadership of the Conservative party today. It's unclear if she will be ousted or not.
What happens if the vote fails?
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Under current Conservative Party rules, she remains leader, and cannot be subject to a party confidence vote for another year.
Being a party matter, none of this affects any parliamentary vote of no confidence which might take place.
Source: BBC News.
See also: Leadership Elections in the Conservative Party, House of Commons briefing paper 01366, July 2016.
answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
1
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
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The (probably) failing attempt of vote of no confidence mostly shows how divided even the own conservative party is despite representing the PM.
If the vote fails, Mrs. May has definitely a stronger position than without such a vote even taking place. She would know there is no clear majority against her course and likely there is also no clear majority in the parliament. The fact that a no-confidence vote is even instigated would normally question the position of the PM. However, in May's current situation which criticism from all sides ever since she took office, a failed vote paradoxically supports her position (even if it is only the fact that there might be no persuasive alternative). Therefore, I believe once the vote has failed, May gained more time for her efforts either to renegotiate parts of the deal (which I doubt will happen) or to set a new date for the vote on the deal.
If the vote succeeds, May will step down and probably a more pronounced Brexit supporter will take her place. I doubt however that neither Johnson nor Rees-Mogg would get the position.
To sum up, a failed vote would indirectly support the current position of May while a successful vote would end her period as PM.
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Under current Conservative Party rules, she remains leader, and cannot be subject to a party confidence vote for another year.
Being a party matter, none of this affects any parliamentary vote of no confidence which might take place.
Source: BBC News.
See also: Leadership Elections in the Conservative Party, House of Commons briefing paper 01366, July 2016.
answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
1
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
19
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Under current Conservative Party rules, she remains leader, and cannot be subject to a party confidence vote for another year.
Being a party matter, none of this affects any parliamentary vote of no confidence which might take place.
Source: BBC News.
See also: Leadership Elections in the Conservative Party, House of Commons briefing paper 01366, July 2016.
answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
3,60211332
4
It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
1
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
19
down vote
up vote
19
down vote
Under current Conservative Party rules, she remains leader, and cannot be subject to a party confidence vote for another year.
Being a party matter, none of this affects any parliamentary vote of no confidence which might take place.
Source: BBC News.
See also: Leadership Elections in the Conservative Party, House of Commons briefing paper 01366, July 2016.
answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
3,60211332
Under current Conservative Party rules, she remains leader, and cannot be subject to a party confidence vote for another year.
Being a party matter, none of this affects any parliamentary vote of no confidence which might take place.
Source: BBC News.
See also: Leadership Elections in the Conservative Party, House of Commons briefing paper 01366, July 2016.
answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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edited 13 hours ago
answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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answered 15 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
1
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
add a comment |
4
It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
1
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
4
4
It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
It might be worth being explicit that these rules are these of the Conservative Party, rather than anything universal to British politics. In principle they could be changed, but not on a short timescale.
– origimbo
15 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
@origimbo: done; I've also added another source.
– Steve Melnikoff
14 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
Perhaps worth noting that she cannot be challenged by an in-party vote of no confidence for another year: it has no impact on Parliamentary procedure (eg a Parliamentary vote of no confidence). I know that's implicit in the question, but to a layman it may not be obvious
– Jon Story
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
@JonStory: fair point; updated.
– Steve Melnikoff
13 hours ago
1
1
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
Also worth adding that it's generally accepted (at least in the press) that a narrow margin of victory would leave her in a tenuous position, from which the cabinet may be able to force her to resign.
– Matt Thrower
12 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
The (probably) failing attempt of vote of no confidence mostly shows how divided even the own conservative party is despite representing the PM.
If the vote fails, Mrs. May has definitely a stronger position than without such a vote even taking place. She would know there is no clear majority against her course and likely there is also no clear majority in the parliament. The fact that a no-confidence vote is even instigated would normally question the position of the PM. However, in May's current situation which criticism from all sides ever since she took office, a failed vote paradoxically supports her position (even if it is only the fact that there might be no persuasive alternative). Therefore, I believe once the vote has failed, May gained more time for her efforts either to renegotiate parts of the deal (which I doubt will happen) or to set a new date for the vote on the deal.
If the vote succeeds, May will step down and probably a more pronounced Brexit supporter will take her place. I doubt however that neither Johnson nor Rees-Mogg would get the position.
To sum up, a failed vote would indirectly support the current position of May while a successful vote would end her period as PM.
answered 9 hours ago
Alex_P
385
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
The (probably) failing attempt of vote of no confidence mostly shows how divided even the own conservative party is despite representing the PM.
If the vote fails, Mrs. May has definitely a stronger position than without such a vote even taking place. She would know there is no clear majority against her course and likely there is also no clear majority in the parliament. The fact that a no-confidence vote is even instigated would normally question the position of the PM. However, in May's current situation which criticism from all sides ever since she took office, a failed vote paradoxically supports her position (even if it is only the fact that there might be no persuasive alternative). Therefore, I believe once the vote has failed, May gained more time for her efforts either to renegotiate parts of the deal (which I doubt will happen) or to set a new date for the vote on the deal.
If the vote succeeds, May will step down and probably a more pronounced Brexit supporter will take her place. I doubt however that neither Johnson nor Rees-Mogg would get the position.
To sum up, a failed vote would indirectly support the current position of May while a successful vote would end her period as PM.
answered 9 hours ago
Alex_P
385
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
The (probably) failing attempt of vote of no confidence mostly shows how divided even the own conservative party is despite representing the PM.
If the vote fails, Mrs. May has definitely a stronger position than without such a vote even taking place. She would know there is no clear majority against her course and likely there is also no clear majority in the parliament. The fact that a no-confidence vote is even instigated would normally question the position of the PM. However, in May's current situation which criticism from all sides ever since she took office, a failed vote paradoxically supports her position (even if it is only the fact that there might be no persuasive alternative). Therefore, I believe once the vote has failed, May gained more time for her efforts either to renegotiate parts of the deal (which I doubt will happen) or to set a new date for the vote on the deal.
If the vote succeeds, May will step down and probably a more pronounced Brexit supporter will take her place. I doubt however that neither Johnson nor Rees-Mogg would get the position.
To sum up, a failed vote would indirectly support the current position of May while a successful vote would end her period as PM.
answered 9 hours ago
Alex_P
385
The (probably) failing attempt of vote of no confidence mostly shows how divided even the own conservative party is despite representing the PM.
If the vote fails, Mrs. May has definitely a stronger position than without such a vote even taking place. She would know there is no clear majority against her course and likely there is also no clear majority in the parliament. The fact that a no-confidence vote is even instigated would normally question the position of the PM. However, in May's current situation which criticism from all sides ever since she took office, a failed vote paradoxically supports her position (even if it is only the fact that there might be no persuasive alternative). Therefore, I believe once the vote has failed, May gained more time for her efforts either to renegotiate parts of the deal (which I doubt will happen) or to set a new date for the vote on the deal.
If the vote succeeds, May will step down and probably a more pronounced Brexit supporter will take her place. I doubt however that neither Johnson nor Rees-Mogg would get the position.
To sum up, a failed vote would indirectly support the current position of May while a successful vote would end her period as PM.
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