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consider $f(x)=x^5+2x+1inmathbb{Z}_3[x]$,what is the splitting field of $f$ and its Galois group?



I know it is a Galois extension. But i do not know the degree of the extension for i have no idea of the root of $f$,
the answer is the cyclic group of order 5.



any idea will be helpful!










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    Since $f$ doesn't have root in $Bbb Z_3$, it is reducible iff an irreducible monic quadratic polynomial divides it. Without any further idea, I'd list all these quadratics and see if they divide $f$..
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    yes, we can prove that $f$ is irreducible
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    – yufeng lu
    Dec 2 '18 at 13:09
















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$begingroup$


consider $f(x)=x^5+2x+1inmathbb{Z}_3[x]$,what is the splitting field of $f$ and its Galois group?



I know it is a Galois extension. But i do not know the degree of the extension for i have no idea of the root of $f$,
the answer is the cyclic group of order 5.



any idea will be helpful!










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    Since $f$ doesn't have root in $Bbb Z_3$, it is reducible iff an irreducible monic quadratic polynomial divides it. Without any further idea, I'd list all these quadratics and see if they divide $f$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Dec 1 '18 at 8:57








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    yes, we can prove that $f$ is irreducible
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    – yufeng lu
    Dec 2 '18 at 13:09














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$begingroup$


consider $f(x)=x^5+2x+1inmathbb{Z}_3[x]$,what is the splitting field of $f$ and its Galois group?



I know it is a Galois extension. But i do not know the degree of the extension for i have no idea of the root of $f$,
the answer is the cyclic group of order 5.



any idea will be helpful!










share|cite|improve this question









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consider $f(x)=x^5+2x+1inmathbb{Z}_3[x]$,what is the splitting field of $f$ and its Galois group?



I know it is a Galois extension. But i do not know the degree of the extension for i have no idea of the root of $f$,
the answer is the cyclic group of order 5.



any idea will be helpful!







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  • $begingroup$
    Since $f$ doesn't have root in $Bbb Z_3$, it is reducible iff an irreducible monic quadratic polynomial divides it. Without any further idea, I'd list all these quadratics and see if they divide $f$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Dec 1 '18 at 8:57








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    yes, we can prove that $f$ is irreducible
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 2 '18 at 13:09


















  • $begingroup$
    Since $f$ doesn't have root in $Bbb Z_3$, it is reducible iff an irreducible monic quadratic polynomial divides it. Without any further idea, I'd list all these quadratics and see if they divide $f$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Dec 1 '18 at 8:57








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    yes, we can prove that $f$ is irreducible
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 2 '18 at 13:09
















$begingroup$
Since $f$ doesn't have root in $Bbb Z_3$, it is reducible iff an irreducible monic quadratic polynomial divides it. Without any further idea, I'd list all these quadratics and see if they divide $f$..
$endgroup$
– Berci
Dec 1 '18 at 8:57






$begingroup$
Since $f$ doesn't have root in $Bbb Z_3$, it is reducible iff an irreducible monic quadratic polynomial divides it. Without any further idea, I'd list all these quadratics and see if they divide $f$..
$endgroup$
– Berci
Dec 1 '18 at 8:57






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yes, we can prove that $f$ is irreducible
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 2 '18 at 13:09




$begingroup$
yes, we can prove that $f$ is irreducible
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– yufeng lu
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If $f$ is irreducible then $Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f)$ is a field of $3^5$ elements. Since all fields of $3^5$ elements are isomorphic, adjoining any root of $f$ yields the same field (up to isomorphism) and hence this field is a splitting field of $f$, and so
$$|operatorname{Gal}(f)|=[Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f):Bbb{F}_3]=5.$$
Every group of order $5$ is cyclic.






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  • $begingroup$
    if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:54












  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Dec 3 '18 at 15:58












  • $begingroup$
    i got the point. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:56



















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$begingroup$

Hint: if $f$ is irriducible then you can consider the field exstension $F'=Bbb Z_3[x]/I$, where $I:=(f(x))$, the ideal generated by $f$. Now for the theorem of Kronecker exist a root $alpha$ of $f$ ( $alpha:= x+I$). The elements of $F'$ are $$F'={a+balpha+calpha ^2+dalpha ^3+ealpha ^4 : a,b,c,d,e in Bbb Z_3[x]}.$$ Using the euclidean division we obtain: $$x^5+2x+1=(x^4+alpha x^3+alpha ^2x^2+alpha ^3x+(2+alpha ^4))(x-alpha ).$$ Now yuo can prove that the other roots belong to $F'$. This show that $F'$ is the splitting field of $f$ and that $G(F'/F)=Z_5$.






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    what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:47










  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Domenico Vuono
    Dec 3 '18 at 20:16










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    what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
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    Dec 4 '18 at 14:55











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If $f$ is irreducible then $Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f)$ is a field of $3^5$ elements. Since all fields of $3^5$ elements are isomorphic, adjoining any root of $f$ yields the same field (up to isomorphism) and hence this field is a splitting field of $f$, and so
$$|operatorname{Gal}(f)|=[Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f):Bbb{F}_3]=5.$$
Every group of order $5$ is cyclic.






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  • $begingroup$
    if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:54












  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Dec 3 '18 at 15:58












  • $begingroup$
    i got the point. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:56
















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$begingroup$

If $f$ is irreducible then $Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f)$ is a field of $3^5$ elements. Since all fields of $3^5$ elements are isomorphic, adjoining any root of $f$ yields the same field (up to isomorphism) and hence this field is a splitting field of $f$, and so
$$|operatorname{Gal}(f)|=[Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f):Bbb{F}_3]=5.$$
Every group of order $5$ is cyclic.






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  • $begingroup$
    if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:54












  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Dec 3 '18 at 15:58












  • $begingroup$
    i got the point. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:56














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$begingroup$

If $f$ is irreducible then $Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f)$ is a field of $3^5$ elements. Since all fields of $3^5$ elements are isomorphic, adjoining any root of $f$ yields the same field (up to isomorphism) and hence this field is a splitting field of $f$, and so
$$|operatorname{Gal}(f)|=[Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f):Bbb{F}_3]=5.$$
Every group of order $5$ is cyclic.






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If $f$ is irreducible then $Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f)$ is a field of $3^5$ elements. Since all fields of $3^5$ elements are isomorphic, adjoining any root of $f$ yields the same field (up to isomorphism) and hence this field is a splitting field of $f$, and so
$$|operatorname{Gal}(f)|=[Bbb{F}_3[x]/(f):Bbb{F}_3]=5.$$
Every group of order $5$ is cyclic.







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  • $begingroup$
    if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:54












  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Dec 3 '18 at 15:58












  • $begingroup$
    i got the point. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:56


















  • $begingroup$
    if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:54












  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    Dec 3 '18 at 15:58












  • $begingroup$
    i got the point. thanks
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:56
















$begingroup$
if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 3 '18 at 14:54






$begingroup$
if $alpha beta$are roots of $f$, then $mathbb{F}_3[alpha]$ is isomorphism to $mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.but it does not mean that $alpha in mathbb{F}_3[beta]$.
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 3 '18 at 14:54














$begingroup$
@yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Dec 3 '18 at 15:58






$begingroup$
@yufenglu Actually, it does; if $alphanotinBbb{F}_3[beta]$ then $Bbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]$ is a field containing two distinct subfields of $3^5$ elements. But any element of a field of $3^5$ elements satisfies $x^{3^5}=x$, so $$Bbb{F}_3[alpha]={xinBbb{F}_3[alpha,beta]: x^{3^5}=x}=Bbb{F}_3[beta],$$ because any field contains at most $3^5$ elements satisfying $x^{3^5}=x$.
$endgroup$
– Servaes
Dec 3 '18 at 15:58














$begingroup$
i got the point. thanks
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 4 '18 at 14:56




$begingroup$
i got the point. thanks
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 4 '18 at 14:56











0












$begingroup$

Hint: if $f$ is irriducible then you can consider the field exstension $F'=Bbb Z_3[x]/I$, where $I:=(f(x))$, the ideal generated by $f$. Now for the theorem of Kronecker exist a root $alpha$ of $f$ ( $alpha:= x+I$). The elements of $F'$ are $$F'={a+balpha+calpha ^2+dalpha ^3+ealpha ^4 : a,b,c,d,e in Bbb Z_3[x]}.$$ Using the euclidean division we obtain: $$x^5+2x+1=(x^4+alpha x^3+alpha ^2x^2+alpha ^3x+(2+alpha ^4))(x-alpha ).$$ Now yuo can prove that the other roots belong to $F'$. This show that $F'$ is the splitting field of $f$ and that $G(F'/F)=Z_5$.






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    what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:47










  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Domenico Vuono
    Dec 3 '18 at 20:16










  • $begingroup$
    what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:55
















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$begingroup$

Hint: if $f$ is irriducible then you can consider the field exstension $F'=Bbb Z_3[x]/I$, where $I:=(f(x))$, the ideal generated by $f$. Now for the theorem of Kronecker exist a root $alpha$ of $f$ ( $alpha:= x+I$). The elements of $F'$ are $$F'={a+balpha+calpha ^2+dalpha ^3+ealpha ^4 : a,b,c,d,e in Bbb Z_3[x]}.$$ Using the euclidean division we obtain: $$x^5+2x+1=(x^4+alpha x^3+alpha ^2x^2+alpha ^3x+(2+alpha ^4))(x-alpha ).$$ Now yuo can prove that the other roots belong to $F'$. This show that $F'$ is the splitting field of $f$ and that $G(F'/F)=Z_5$.






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  • $begingroup$
    what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:47










  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Domenico Vuono
    Dec 3 '18 at 20:16










  • $begingroup$
    what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:55














0












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0





$begingroup$

Hint: if $f$ is irriducible then you can consider the field exstension $F'=Bbb Z_3[x]/I$, where $I:=(f(x))$, the ideal generated by $f$. Now for the theorem of Kronecker exist a root $alpha$ of $f$ ( $alpha:= x+I$). The elements of $F'$ are $$F'={a+balpha+calpha ^2+dalpha ^3+ealpha ^4 : a,b,c,d,e in Bbb Z_3[x]}.$$ Using the euclidean division we obtain: $$x^5+2x+1=(x^4+alpha x^3+alpha ^2x^2+alpha ^3x+(2+alpha ^4))(x-alpha ).$$ Now yuo can prove that the other roots belong to $F'$. This show that $F'$ is the splitting field of $f$ and that $G(F'/F)=Z_5$.






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Hint: if $f$ is irriducible then you can consider the field exstension $F'=Bbb Z_3[x]/I$, where $I:=(f(x))$, the ideal generated by $f$. Now for the theorem of Kronecker exist a root $alpha$ of $f$ ( $alpha:= x+I$). The elements of $F'$ are $$F'={a+balpha+calpha ^2+dalpha ^3+ealpha ^4 : a,b,c,d,e in Bbb Z_3[x]}.$$ Using the euclidean division we obtain: $$x^5+2x+1=(x^4+alpha x^3+alpha ^2x^2+alpha ^3x+(2+alpha ^4))(x-alpha ).$$ Now yuo can prove that the other roots belong to $F'$. This show that $F'$ is the splitting field of $f$ and that $G(F'/F)=Z_5$.







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  • $begingroup$
    what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:47










  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Domenico Vuono
    Dec 3 '18 at 20:16










  • $begingroup$
    what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:55


















  • $begingroup$
    what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 3 '18 at 14:47










  • $begingroup$
    @yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
    $endgroup$
    – Domenico Vuono
    Dec 3 '18 at 20:16










  • $begingroup$
    what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
    $endgroup$
    – yufeng lu
    Dec 4 '18 at 14:55
















$begingroup$
what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 3 '18 at 14:47




$begingroup$
what is the root of $(x^5+2x+1)/(x-alpha)$?
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 3 '18 at 14:47












$begingroup$
@yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
$endgroup$
– Domenico Vuono
Dec 3 '18 at 20:16




$begingroup$
@yufenglu use the fact that $alpha ^5+2alpha+1=0$
$endgroup$
– Domenico Vuono
Dec 3 '18 at 20:16












$begingroup$
what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
Dec 4 '18 at 14:55




$begingroup$
what are the other roots besides the $alpha$?
$endgroup$
– yufeng lu
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