how to prove ∃x(∃yA(y) → A(x)) is valid in classical logic
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∃x(∃yA(y) → A(x))
i know how to prove it by natural deduction. but it requires to use model theoretical approach. so i'm not sure how we can prove the validity.
can anyone help me please ?
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∃x(∃yA(y) → A(x))
i know how to prove it by natural deduction. but it requires to use model theoretical approach. so i'm not sure how we can prove the validity.
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∃x(∃yA(y) → A(x))
i know how to prove it by natural deduction. but it requires to use model theoretical approach. so i'm not sure how we can prove the validity.
can anyone help me please ?
logic predicate-logic
∃x(∃yA(y) → A(x))
i know how to prove it by natural deduction. but it requires to use model theoretical approach. so i'm not sure how we can prove the validity.
can anyone help me please ?
logic predicate-logic
logic predicate-logic
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Let $mathcal M$ a structure whatever, with domain $D$.
Two cases :
(i) $∃yA(y)$ is False.
Thus $∃yA(y) to A(x)$ is True.
For an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, for $a in D$ whatever, we have $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$.
And this means that $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
(ii) $∃yA(y)$ is True, i.e. there is an object $a in D$ such that $A^{mathcal M}(a)$ holds.
This implies that $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$, for an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, and thus : $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
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Nov 21 at 16:01
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Try a proof by contradiction:
So, suppose there is some structure that makes this sentence false.
That means that there is not some object $x$ in the domain for which it holds that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By pure logic that means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it does not hold that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By the semantics of the material implication, this then means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it holds that there is something with property $A$, and that $x$ does not have property $A$.
But that means that there is something with property $A$ as well as that nothing has property $A$, and we have our contradiction.
So, there is no structure that makes the sentence false, and hence all structures will set this sentence to true.
Hence, the sentence is valid.
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
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2 Answers
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oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Let $mathcal M$ a structure whatever, with domain $D$.
Two cases :
(i) $∃yA(y)$ is False.
Thus $∃yA(y) to A(x)$ is True.
For an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, for $a in D$ whatever, we have $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$.
And this means that $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
(ii) $∃yA(y)$ is True, i.e. there is an object $a in D$ such that $A^{mathcal M}(a)$ holds.
This implies that $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$, for an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, and thus : $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Let $mathcal M$ a structure whatever, with domain $D$.
Two cases :
(i) $∃yA(y)$ is False.
Thus $∃yA(y) to A(x)$ is True.
For an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, for $a in D$ whatever, we have $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$.
And this means that $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
(ii) $∃yA(y)$ is True, i.e. there is an object $a in D$ such that $A^{mathcal M}(a)$ holds.
This implies that $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$, for an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, and thus : $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
Let $mathcal M$ a structure whatever, with domain $D$.
Two cases :
(i) $∃yA(y)$ is False.
Thus $∃yA(y) to A(x)$ is True.
For an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, for $a in D$ whatever, we have $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$.
And this means that $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
(ii) $∃yA(y)$ is True, i.e. there is an object $a in D$ such that $A^{mathcal M}(a)$ holds.
This implies that $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$, for an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, and thus : $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
Let $mathcal M$ a structure whatever, with domain $D$.
Two cases :
(i) $∃yA(y)$ is False.
Thus $∃yA(y) to A(x)$ is True.
For an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, for $a in D$ whatever, we have $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$.
And this means that $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
(ii) $∃yA(y)$ is True, i.e. there is an object $a in D$ such that $A^{mathcal M}(a)$ holds.
This implies that $mathcal M vDash (∃yA(y) to A(x))[s]$, for an assignment $s$ such that $s(x)=a$, and thus : $mathcal M vDash exists x (∃yA(y) to A(x))$.
edited Nov 21 at 14:43
answered Nov 21 at 14:37
Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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63.9k448110
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
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Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Try a proof by contradiction:
So, suppose there is some structure that makes this sentence false.
That means that there is not some object $x$ in the domain for which it holds that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By pure logic that means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it does not hold that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By the semantics of the material implication, this then means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it holds that there is something with property $A$, and that $x$ does not have property $A$.
But that means that there is something with property $A$ as well as that nothing has property $A$, and we have our contradiction.
So, there is no structure that makes the sentence false, and hence all structures will set this sentence to true.
Hence, the sentence is valid.
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
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1
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Try a proof by contradiction:
So, suppose there is some structure that makes this sentence false.
That means that there is not some object $x$ in the domain for which it holds that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By pure logic that means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it does not hold that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By the semantics of the material implication, this then means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it holds that there is something with property $A$, and that $x$ does not have property $A$.
But that means that there is something with property $A$ as well as that nothing has property $A$, and we have our contradiction.
So, there is no structure that makes the sentence false, and hence all structures will set this sentence to true.
Hence, the sentence is valid.
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
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up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Try a proof by contradiction:
So, suppose there is some structure that makes this sentence false.
That means that there is not some object $x$ in the domain for which it holds that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By pure logic that means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it does not hold that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By the semantics of the material implication, this then means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it holds that there is something with property $A$, and that $x$ does not have property $A$.
But that means that there is something with property $A$ as well as that nothing has property $A$, and we have our contradiction.
So, there is no structure that makes the sentence false, and hence all structures will set this sentence to true.
Hence, the sentence is valid.
Try a proof by contradiction:
So, suppose there is some structure that makes this sentence false.
That means that there is not some object $x$ in the domain for which it holds that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By pure logic that means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it does not hold that if there is something which has property $A$, then $x$ has property $A$.
By the semantics of the material implication, this then means that for all objects $x$ in the domain it holds that there is something with property $A$, and that $x$ does not have property $A$.
But that means that there is something with property $A$ as well as that nothing has property $A$, and we have our contradiction.
So, there is no structure that makes the sentence false, and hence all structures will set this sentence to true.
Hence, the sentence is valid.
edited Nov 21 at 14:54
answered Nov 21 at 14:31
Bram28
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Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
add a comment |
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
Thank you so much. i really appreciate it.
– Norman
Nov 21 at 16:01
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
@Norman You're welcome :)
– Bram28
Nov 21 at 17:37
add a comment |
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