An simple intermediate step of the proof that $partial^2 = 0$ in the case of singular homology












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Let $Delta_q$ be the standard $q$-simplex. The function $F_q^s : Delta_{q-1} to Delta_q$ is the $s$-th face of $Delta_q$, defined as the correstriction to $Delta_q$ of $(e_0,dots,e_{s-1},hat{e_s},e_{s+1},dots,e_q)$, the map $Delta_{q-1} to mathbb{R}^q$ that sends $e_i$ to itself for $i < s$ and $e_i$ to $e_{i+1}$ if $i geq s$.



I'm stuck on trying to prove the following elementary result,




Lemma. Let $0 leq j < i leq q$. Then $F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j} = F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}$.




I apologize for the simplicity of the question, but I cannot seem to pinpoint where am I making the mistake, so any help is greatly appreciated.



By a direct calculation,



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l < j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



These don't seem to coincide. Where have I gone wrong?










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    Many homology theories are described by a collection of maps called face and degeneracy maps, satisfying a set of axioms called simplicial identities (you may read more about them at the nLab). The ones you posted are precisely the ones which guarantee that their alternating sum is a differential.
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$begingroup$


Let $Delta_q$ be the standard $q$-simplex. The function $F_q^s : Delta_{q-1} to Delta_q$ is the $s$-th face of $Delta_q$, defined as the correstriction to $Delta_q$ of $(e_0,dots,e_{s-1},hat{e_s},e_{s+1},dots,e_q)$, the map $Delta_{q-1} to mathbb{R}^q$ that sends $e_i$ to itself for $i < s$ and $e_i$ to $e_{i+1}$ if $i geq s$.



I'm stuck on trying to prove the following elementary result,




Lemma. Let $0 leq j < i leq q$. Then $F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j} = F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}$.




I apologize for the simplicity of the question, but I cannot seem to pinpoint where am I making the mistake, so any help is greatly appreciated.



By a direct calculation,



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l < j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



These don't seem to coincide. Where have I gone wrong?










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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Many homology theories are described by a collection of maps called face and degeneracy maps, satisfying a set of axioms called simplicial identities (you may read more about them at the nLab). The ones you posted are precisely the ones which guarantee that their alternating sum is a differential.
    $endgroup$
    – F M
    Dec 17 '18 at 15:58














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$begingroup$


Let $Delta_q$ be the standard $q$-simplex. The function $F_q^s : Delta_{q-1} to Delta_q$ is the $s$-th face of $Delta_q$, defined as the correstriction to $Delta_q$ of $(e_0,dots,e_{s-1},hat{e_s},e_{s+1},dots,e_q)$, the map $Delta_{q-1} to mathbb{R}^q$ that sends $e_i$ to itself for $i < s$ and $e_i$ to $e_{i+1}$ if $i geq s$.



I'm stuck on trying to prove the following elementary result,




Lemma. Let $0 leq j < i leq q$. Then $F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j} = F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}$.




I apologize for the simplicity of the question, but I cannot seem to pinpoint where am I making the mistake, so any help is greatly appreciated.



By a direct calculation,



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l < j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



These don't seem to coincide. Where have I gone wrong?










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Let $Delta_q$ be the standard $q$-simplex. The function $F_q^s : Delta_{q-1} to Delta_q$ is the $s$-th face of $Delta_q$, defined as the correstriction to $Delta_q$ of $(e_0,dots,e_{s-1},hat{e_s},e_{s+1},dots,e_q)$, the map $Delta_{q-1} to mathbb{R}^q$ that sends $e_i$ to itself for $i < s$ and $e_i$ to $e_{i+1}$ if $i geq s$.



I'm stuck on trying to prove the following elementary result,




Lemma. Let $0 leq j < i leq q$. Then $F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j} = F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}$.




I apologize for the simplicity of the question, but I cannot seem to pinpoint where am I making the mistake, so any help is greatly appreciated.



By a direct calculation,



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l < j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



These don't seem to coincide. Where have I gone wrong?







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    Many homology theories are described by a collection of maps called face and degeneracy maps, satisfying a set of axioms called simplicial identities (you may read more about them at the nLab). The ones you posted are precisely the ones which guarantee that their alternating sum is a differential.
    $endgroup$
    – F M
    Dec 17 '18 at 15:58














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Many homology theories are described by a collection of maps called face and degeneracy maps, satisfying a set of axioms called simplicial identities (you may read more about them at the nLab). The ones you posted are precisely the ones which guarantee that their alternating sum is a differential.
    $endgroup$
    – F M
    Dec 17 '18 at 15:58








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1




$begingroup$
Many homology theories are described by a collection of maps called face and degeneracy maps, satisfying a set of axioms called simplicial identities (you may read more about them at the nLab). The ones you posted are precisely the ones which guarantee that their alternating sum is a differential.
$endgroup$
– F M
Dec 17 '18 at 15:58




$begingroup$
Many homology theories are described by a collection of maps called face and degeneracy maps, satisfying a set of axioms called simplicial identities (you may read more about them at the nLab). The ones you posted are precisely the ones which guarantee that their alternating sum is a differential.
$endgroup$
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Dec 17 '18 at 15:58










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You did not correctly calculate $F^s_q(e_{l+1})$. You have
$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i-1$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1< j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1 geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$






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You did not correctly calculate $F^s_q(e_{l+1})$. You have
$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i-1$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1< j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1 geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$






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    I see it now! I had rewritten this many times, but it seems that I had fixed my mistake already. Thanks a lot!
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$begingroup$

You did not correctly calculate $F^s_q(e_{l+1})$. You have
$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i-1$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1< j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1 geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$






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    I see it now! I had rewritten this many times, but it seems that I had fixed my mistake already. Thanks a lot!
    $endgroup$
    – Guido A.
    Dec 17 '18 at 1:55














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You did not correctly calculate $F^s_q(e_{l+1})$. You have
$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i-1$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1< j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1 geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$






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You did not correctly calculate $F^s_q(e_{l+1})$. You have
$$
begin{align}
F_q^{i}F_{q-1}^{j}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{i}(e_l) text{ if $l < j$}\ F_q^{i}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq j$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j, l< i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < j, l geq i$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 < i$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq j, l+1 geq i$}} \&=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq j, l < i-1$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$



and



$$
begin{align}
F_q^{j}F_{q-1}^{i-1}(e_l) &= cases{F_q^{j}(e_l) text{ if $l < i-1$}\ F_q^{j}(e_{l+1}) text{ if $l geq i-1$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l < i-1, l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1< j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1, l+1 geq j$}} \ &=
cases{
e_l quad text{ if $l< j$}\
e_{l+1} text{ if $l < i-1, l geq j$}\
e_{l+2} text{ if $l geq i-1$}}
end{align}
$$







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    I see it now! I had rewritten this many times, but it seems that I had fixed my mistake already. Thanks a lot!
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    Dec 17 '18 at 1:55


















  • $begingroup$
    I see it now! I had rewritten this many times, but it seems that I had fixed my mistake already. Thanks a lot!
    $endgroup$
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    Dec 17 '18 at 1:55
















$begingroup$
I see it now! I had rewritten this many times, but it seems that I had fixed my mistake already. Thanks a lot!
$endgroup$
– Guido A.
Dec 17 '18 at 1:55




$begingroup$
I see it now! I had rewritten this many times, but it seems that I had fixed my mistake already. Thanks a lot!
$endgroup$
– Guido A.
Dec 17 '18 at 1:55


















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