Find all integer solutions for $2(x^2+y^2)+x+y=5xy$
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Find all integer solutions for $2(x^2+y^2)+x+y=5xy$
I have been attempting to solve this question for a long period of time but have never achieved anything. I tried to go back to WolframAlpha and it gave me that the integer solutions were $x=y=2, x=y=0$. I tried to make to factor it and have a number left on the RHS so I can find out its factors but could not factor it. I also tried making it into the form of: $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2+(text{ })(text{ })$ but was unable to determine what would be located inside the empty brackets and the values of $a_1,a_2$. I also tried to multiply the equation by $2$ to get $4x^2=(2x)^2$ Another attempt was assuming that WLOG $xge y iff x=y+a$ which would give me that $a=0$ and from there I could get that $x=y$ and therefore $x=y=0,2$ from basic math. I hope I could get help on this question and thank you anyways.
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Find all integer solutions for $2(x^2+y^2)+x+y=5xy$
I have been attempting to solve this question for a long period of time but have never achieved anything. I tried to go back to WolframAlpha and it gave me that the integer solutions were $x=y=2, x=y=0$. I tried to make to factor it and have a number left on the RHS so I can find out its factors but could not factor it. I also tried making it into the form of: $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2+(text{ })(text{ })$ but was unable to determine what would be located inside the empty brackets and the values of $a_1,a_2$. I also tried to multiply the equation by $2$ to get $4x^2=(2x)^2$ Another attempt was assuming that WLOG $xge y iff x=y+a$ which would give me that $a=0$ and from there I could get that $x=y$ and therefore $x=y=0,2$ from basic math. I hope I could get help on this question and thank you anyways.
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Find all integer solutions for $2(x^2+y^2)+x+y=5xy$
I have been attempting to solve this question for a long period of time but have never achieved anything. I tried to go back to WolframAlpha and it gave me that the integer solutions were $x=y=2, x=y=0$. I tried to make to factor it and have a number left on the RHS so I can find out its factors but could not factor it. I also tried making it into the form of: $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2+(text{ })(text{ })$ but was unable to determine what would be located inside the empty brackets and the values of $a_1,a_2$. I also tried to multiply the equation by $2$ to get $4x^2=(2x)^2$ Another attempt was assuming that WLOG $xge y iff x=y+a$ which would give me that $a=0$ and from there I could get that $x=y$ and therefore $x=y=0,2$ from basic math. I hope I could get help on this question and thank you anyways.
algebra-precalculus
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Find all integer solutions for $2(x^2+y^2)+x+y=5xy$
I have been attempting to solve this question for a long period of time but have never achieved anything. I tried to go back to WolframAlpha and it gave me that the integer solutions were $x=y=2, x=y=0$. I tried to make to factor it and have a number left on the RHS so I can find out its factors but could not factor it. I also tried making it into the form of: $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2+(text{ })(text{ })$ but was unable to determine what would be located inside the empty brackets and the values of $a_1,a_2$. I also tried to multiply the equation by $2$ to get $4x^2=(2x)^2$ Another attempt was assuming that WLOG $xge y iff x=y+a$ which would give me that $a=0$ and from there I could get that $x=y$ and therefore $x=y=0,2$ from basic math. I hope I could get help on this question and thank you anyways.
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Hint
$$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$ is a quadratic equation in $x$
The discriminant $d=(1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y)=9y^2-18y+1=(3y-3)^2-8$
As $d$ needs to be perfect square, $(3y-3)^2-8=z^2$(say)
$(3y-3-z)(3y-3+z)=8$
As the multiplicands have the same parity, both must be even
$dfrac{3y-3-z}2cdotdfrac{3y-3+z}2=2$
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$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
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$$ (2x-y-1)(x-2y+1) = -1 $$
With integers, you must have either $1 cdot (-1)$ or $(-1) cdot 1$
Both cases give an intersection of a pair of (non-parallel) lines, so just two points total
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You have a quadratic equation on $x$ with parameter $y$: $$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$
so the discriminat must be prefect square
$$ d^2 = (1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y) = 9y^2-18y+1$$
So we have $$8 = 9(y-1)^2 -d^2 = (3y-3-d)(3y-3+d)$$
and now should be easy...
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Hint
$$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$ is a quadratic equation in $x$
The discriminant $d=(1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y)=9y^2-18y+1=(3y-3)^2-8$
As $d$ needs to be perfect square, $(3y-3)^2-8=z^2$(say)
$(3y-3-z)(3y-3+z)=8$
As the multiplicands have the same parity, both must be even
$dfrac{3y-3-z}2cdotdfrac{3y-3+z}2=2$
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$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
Dec 31 '18 at 18:21
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Hint
$$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$ is a quadratic equation in $x$
The discriminant $d=(1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y)=9y^2-18y+1=(3y-3)^2-8$
As $d$ needs to be perfect square, $(3y-3)^2-8=z^2$(say)
$(3y-3-z)(3y-3+z)=8$
As the multiplicands have the same parity, both must be even
$dfrac{3y-3-z}2cdotdfrac{3y-3+z}2=2$
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$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
$endgroup$
– lab bhattacharjee
Dec 31 '18 at 18:21
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$begingroup$
Hint
$$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$ is a quadratic equation in $x$
The discriminant $d=(1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y)=9y^2-18y+1=(3y-3)^2-8$
As $d$ needs to be perfect square, $(3y-3)^2-8=z^2$(say)
$(3y-3-z)(3y-3+z)=8$
As the multiplicands have the same parity, both must be even
$dfrac{3y-3-z}2cdotdfrac{3y-3+z}2=2$
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Hint
$$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$ is a quadratic equation in $x$
The discriminant $d=(1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y)=9y^2-18y+1=(3y-3)^2-8$
As $d$ needs to be perfect square, $(3y-3)^2-8=z^2$(say)
$(3y-3-z)(3y-3+z)=8$
As the multiplicands have the same parity, both must be even
$dfrac{3y-3-z}2cdotdfrac{3y-3+z}2=2$
answered Dec 31 '18 at 18:17
lab bhattacharjeelab bhattacharjee
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$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
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$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
Dec 31 '18 at 18:21
$begingroup$
$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
$endgroup$
– lab bhattacharjee
Dec 31 '18 at 18:21
$begingroup$
$$2=(-2)(-1)=2cdot1$$
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– lab bhattacharjee
Dec 31 '18 at 18:21
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$$ (2x-y-1)(x-2y+1) = -1 $$
With integers, you must have either $1 cdot (-1)$ or $(-1) cdot 1$
Both cases give an intersection of a pair of (non-parallel) lines, so just two points total
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$begingroup$
$$ (2x-y-1)(x-2y+1) = -1 $$
With integers, you must have either $1 cdot (-1)$ or $(-1) cdot 1$
Both cases give an intersection of a pair of (non-parallel) lines, so just two points total
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$$ (2x-y-1)(x-2y+1) = -1 $$
With integers, you must have either $1 cdot (-1)$ or $(-1) cdot 1$
Both cases give an intersection of a pair of (non-parallel) lines, so just two points total
$endgroup$
$$ (2x-y-1)(x-2y+1) = -1 $$
With integers, you must have either $1 cdot (-1)$ or $(-1) cdot 1$
Both cases give an intersection of a pair of (non-parallel) lines, so just two points total
answered Dec 31 '18 at 18:29
Will JagyWill Jagy
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You have a quadratic equation on $x$ with parameter $y$: $$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$
so the discriminat must be prefect square
$$ d^2 = (1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y) = 9y^2-18y+1$$
So we have $$8 = 9(y-1)^2 -d^2 = (3y-3-d)(3y-3+d)$$
and now should be easy...
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$begingroup$
You have a quadratic equation on $x$ with parameter $y$: $$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$
so the discriminat must be prefect square
$$ d^2 = (1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y) = 9y^2-18y+1$$
So we have $$8 = 9(y-1)^2 -d^2 = (3y-3-d)(3y-3+d)$$
and now should be easy...
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$begingroup$
You have a quadratic equation on $x$ with parameter $y$: $$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$
so the discriminat must be prefect square
$$ d^2 = (1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y) = 9y^2-18y+1$$
So we have $$8 = 9(y-1)^2 -d^2 = (3y-3-d)(3y-3+d)$$
and now should be easy...
$endgroup$
You have a quadratic equation on $x$ with parameter $y$: $$2x^2+x(1-5y)+2y^2+y=0$$
so the discriminat must be prefect square
$$ d^2 = (1-5y)^2-8(2y^2+y) = 9y^2-18y+1$$
So we have $$8 = 9(y-1)^2 -d^2 = (3y-3-d)(3y-3+d)$$
and now should be easy...
answered Dec 31 '18 at 18:20
greedoidgreedoid
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