Quotient rule of radicals - cannot get to correct answer
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I am to simplify the following expression:
$$dfrac{sqrt{(9a^5b^{14})}}{sqrt{(3a^4b^5)}}$$
The solution is given:
$$b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
I was unable to recreate this solution. Here's where I got to. Using the quotient rule I rewrote the expression as:
$$sqrt{dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}$$
Then, I attempted to simplify (the radicand?):
$$dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}$$
Becomes $sqrt{3ab^9}$.
My train of thought is that first, I simplify $9a^5 / 3a^4$ to just $3a$. Is that right?
Next I tried to simplify $b^{14} / b^5$ to $b^9$
Thus I arrived at $sqrt{3ab^9}$
Where did I go wrong and am I on the right track?
algebra-precalculus
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I am to simplify the following expression:
$$dfrac{sqrt{(9a^5b^{14})}}{sqrt{(3a^4b^5)}}$$
The solution is given:
$$b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
I was unable to recreate this solution. Here's where I got to. Using the quotient rule I rewrote the expression as:
$$sqrt{dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}$$
Then, I attempted to simplify (the radicand?):
$$dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}$$
Becomes $sqrt{3ab^9}$.
My train of thought is that first, I simplify $9a^5 / 3a^4$ to just $3a$. Is that right?
Next I tried to simplify $b^{14} / b^5$ to $b^9$
Thus I arrived at $sqrt{3ab^9}$
Where did I go wrong and am I on the right track?
algebra-precalculus
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You can use curly brackets to include multiple characters within a radical.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
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Thanks for the tip, added now
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:48
1
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No problem. Also, you can also use frac{}{} to show fractions, such as $frac{a}{b}$, which is typically preferred to using a slash, like $a/b$. (Of course, you don’t need to edit the post. Just pointing out.)
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Noted with thanks!
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I am to simplify the following expression:
$$dfrac{sqrt{(9a^5b^{14})}}{sqrt{(3a^4b^5)}}$$
The solution is given:
$$b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
I was unable to recreate this solution. Here's where I got to. Using the quotient rule I rewrote the expression as:
$$sqrt{dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}$$
Then, I attempted to simplify (the radicand?):
$$dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}$$
Becomes $sqrt{3ab^9}$.
My train of thought is that first, I simplify $9a^5 / 3a^4$ to just $3a$. Is that right?
Next I tried to simplify $b^{14} / b^5$ to $b^9$
Thus I arrived at $sqrt{3ab^9}$
Where did I go wrong and am I on the right track?
algebra-precalculus
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I am to simplify the following expression:
$$dfrac{sqrt{(9a^5b^{14})}}{sqrt{(3a^4b^5)}}$$
The solution is given:
$$b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
I was unable to recreate this solution. Here's where I got to. Using the quotient rule I rewrote the expression as:
$$sqrt{dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}$$
Then, I attempted to simplify (the radicand?):
$$dfrac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}$$
Becomes $sqrt{3ab^9}$.
My train of thought is that first, I simplify $9a^5 / 3a^4$ to just $3a$. Is that right?
Next I tried to simplify $b^{14} / b^5$ to $b^9$
Thus I arrived at $sqrt{3ab^9}$
Where did I go wrong and am I on the right track?
algebra-precalculus
algebra-precalculus
edited Dec 31 '18 at 17:56
steven gregory
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asked Dec 31 '18 at 17:38
Doug FirDoug Fir
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You can use curly brackets to include multiple characters within a radical.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
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Thanks for the tip, added now
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:48
1
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No problem. Also, you can also use frac{}{} to show fractions, such as $frac{a}{b}$, which is typically preferred to using a slash, like $a/b$. (Of course, you don’t need to edit the post. Just pointing out.)
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Noted with thanks!
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
You can use curly brackets to include multiple characters within a radical.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
$begingroup$
Thanks for the tip, added now
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:48
1
$begingroup$
No problem. Also, you can also use frac{}{} to show fractions, such as $frac{a}{b}$, which is typically preferred to using a slash, like $a/b$. (Of course, you don’t need to edit the post. Just pointing out.)
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Noted with thanks!
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
2
2
$begingroup$
You can use curly brackets to include multiple characters within a radical.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
$begingroup$
You can use curly brackets to include multiple characters within a radical.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
$begingroup$
Thanks for the tip, added now
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:48
$begingroup$
Thanks for the tip, added now
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:48
1
1
$begingroup$
No problem. Also, you can also use frac{}{} to show fractions, such as $frac{a}{b}$, which is typically preferred to using a slash, like $a/b$. (Of course, you don’t need to edit the post. Just pointing out.)
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
No problem. Also, you can also use frac{}{} to show fractions, such as $frac{a}{b}$, which is typically preferred to using a slash, like $a/b$. (Of course, you don’t need to edit the post. Just pointing out.)
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Noted with thanks!
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Noted with thanks!
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Notice that
$$sqrt{3ab^9}=(sqrt{3a})(b^frac92)=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
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Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
1
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Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
1
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It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
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@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
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– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
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$b^9= (b^8)b= (b^4)^2b$ so $sqrt{b^9}= sqrt{(b^4)^2}sqrt{b}= b^4sqrt{b}$.
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Hint: Write $$sqrt{frac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}=sqrt{3ab^9}=sqrt{3ab^9}=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
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$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
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– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
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@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
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– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
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@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
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– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
add a comment |
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Notice that
$$sqrt{3ab^9}=(sqrt{3a})(b^frac92)=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
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Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
1
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Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
1
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It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
1
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@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
$endgroup$
– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Notice that
$$sqrt{3ab^9}=(sqrt{3a})(b^frac92)=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
1
$begingroup$
Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
1
$begingroup$
It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
$endgroup$
– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Notice that
$$sqrt{3ab^9}=(sqrt{3a})(b^frac92)=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
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Notice that
$$sqrt{3ab^9}=(sqrt{3a})(b^frac92)=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
answered Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
Siong Thye GohSiong Thye Goh
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Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
1
$begingroup$
Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
1
$begingroup$
It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
$endgroup$
– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
1
$begingroup$
Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
1
$begingroup$
It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
1
$begingroup$
@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
$endgroup$
– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
$begingroup$
Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
$begingroup$
Thank you for answering but I'm struggling to follow. Why $b^{9/2}$?
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:49
1
1
$begingroup$
Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Because $sqrt b = b^{frac{1}{2}}$, so $sqrt{b^9} = b^{frac{9}{2}}$. In general, we have $sqrt[n] {b^m} = b^{frac{m}{n}}$.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
$begingroup$
Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
$begingroup$
Thank you but I still struggle to see. How did you complete the last step, to go from $b^{9/2}$ to $b^4$
$endgroup$
– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
1
1
$begingroup$
It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
$begingroup$
It’s the reverse process: $$b^{frac{9}{2}} = b^4cdot b^{frac{1}{2}} = b^4cdotsqrt{b}$$ In fact, as seen, your answer isn’t even wrong, it’s just not fully simplified.
$endgroup$
– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:55
1
1
$begingroup$
@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
$endgroup$
– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
$begingroup$
@DougFir $b^9=b^8cdot b$, and $sqrt{b^8}=b^4$. So you can take $b^4$ outside the radical and leave the remaining $b$ inside.
$endgroup$
– timtfj
Dec 31 '18 at 18:26
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$b^9= (b^8)b= (b^4)^2b$ so $sqrt{b^9}= sqrt{(b^4)^2}sqrt{b}= b^4sqrt{b}$.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
$b^9= (b^8)b= (b^4)^2b$ so $sqrt{b^9}= sqrt{(b^4)^2}sqrt{b}= b^4sqrt{b}$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$b^9= (b^8)b= (b^4)^2b$ so $sqrt{b^9}= sqrt{(b^4)^2}sqrt{b}= b^4sqrt{b}$.
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$b^9= (b^8)b= (b^4)^2b$ so $sqrt{b^9}= sqrt{(b^4)^2}sqrt{b}= b^4sqrt{b}$.
answered Dec 31 '18 at 17:51
user247327user247327
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Hint: Write $$sqrt{frac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}=sqrt{3ab^9}=sqrt{3ab^9}=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
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$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
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– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
2
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@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
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– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
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@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
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– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Hint: Write $$sqrt{frac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}=sqrt{3ab^9}=sqrt{3ab^9}=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
2
$begingroup$
@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
$begingroup$
@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Hint: Write $$sqrt{frac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}=sqrt{3ab^9}=sqrt{3ab^9}=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
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Hint: Write $$sqrt{frac{9a^5b^{14}}{3a^4b^5}}=sqrt{3ab^9}=sqrt{3ab^9}=b^4sqrt{3ab}$$
edited Dec 31 '18 at 17:46
answered Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
Dr. Sonnhard GraubnerDr. Sonnhard Graubner
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$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
2
$begingroup$
@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
$begingroup$
@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
2
$begingroup$
@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
$begingroup$
@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
$begingroup$
$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
$begingroup$
$sqrt {3ab^9}=sqrt {3ab^9}?$
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:45
2
2
$begingroup$
@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
$begingroup$
@MohammadZuhairKhan He is not wrong
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 31 '18 at 17:52
$begingroup$
@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
$begingroup$
@cansomeonehelpmeout I am forced to agree.
$endgroup$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Dec 31 '18 at 17:54
add a comment |
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You can use curly brackets to include multiple characters within a radical.
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:42
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Thanks for the tip, added now
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:48
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No problem. Also, you can also use frac{}{} to show fractions, such as $frac{a}{b}$, which is typically preferred to using a slash, like $a/b$. (Of course, you don’t need to edit the post. Just pointing out.)
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– KM101
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50
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Noted with thanks!
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– Doug Fir
Dec 31 '18 at 17:50