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I'm currently working on the following exercise from Emily Riehl's Category Theory in Context,




Exercise 3.1.xii. Suppose $E:I stackrel{simeq}{to} J$ defines an equivalence between small categories and consider a diagram $F : J to C$. Show that the category of $J$-shaped cones over $F$ is equivalent to the category of $I$-shaped cones over $FE$, and use this equivalence to describe the relationship between limits of $F$ and limits of $FE$.




Here $J$ is assumed to be small and $C$ locally small, although I am not sure this assumptions are needed. I have found a similar idea to mine here, which is to define the following functor



$$
begin{align}
Gamma : int &mathbf{Cone}(_,F) longrightarrow intmathbf{Cone}(_,FE) \
& (c,(lambda_j)_{jin J}) longmapsto (c,(lambda_{Ei})_{iin I}) \
(f:c to d &text{ s.t. }lambda_jf = mu_j) longmapsto (f:c to d text{ s.t. } lambda_{Ei}f = mu_{Ei})
end{align}
$$



that takes $lambda : c Rightarrow F$ to the natural transformation that has its components for each object $Ei$, and takes a morphism that commutes with the cones to itself (since it will still commute with the selected legs). Now, it is asserted in the linked post that $Gamma$ should be an isomorphism of categories (in particular an equivalence), but the details aren't specified and I haven't managed to finish the job. So far, here is what I have come up with:




$Gamma$ is (essentially) surjective: take a cone $nu : c Rightarrow FE$. For each $j in J$, since $E$ is essentially surjective take $varphi_j : Ei_j xrightarrow{sim} j$ be an isomorphism. Now if we define $mu_j$ to be the composite
$$
c xrightarrow{nu_{i_j}} FEi_j xrightarrow{Fvarphi_j} Fj
$$

then $mu$ is a cone over $c$: if $f: j to j'$ is an arrow on $J$, then $varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j: Ei_j to Ei_{j'}$ must come from a (unique) arrow $s : i_j to i_{j'}$ such that $Es = varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j$. Consequently,
$$
begin{align}
Ffmu_j &= FfFvarphi_jnu_{i_j} = F(fvarphi_j)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} \ & =Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}nu_{i_{j'}} = mu_{j'}
end{align}
$$

and so in effect $mu$ is a cone over $c$. Since we can in particular take each $varphi_{Ei}$ to be $1_{Ei}$ for each $j$ such that $j = Ei$, we get that $Gamma(c,mu) = (c,nu)$.




It suffices to see now that $Gamma$ is fully faithful (to prove the equivalence, at least). It is clear to me that if $f,g: c to d$ are distinct morphisms that commute with the respective cones over $c$ and $d$, by construction we get that $Gamma f = f neq g = Gamma g$.



However, if we have $f: c to d$ such that it commutes with the legs of the cones that correspond to the image of $E$, why should it be that $f$ commutes with all legs of the original cones?










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    I'm currently working on the following exercise from Emily Riehl's Category Theory in Context,




    Exercise 3.1.xii. Suppose $E:I stackrel{simeq}{to} J$ defines an equivalence between small categories and consider a diagram $F : J to C$. Show that the category of $J$-shaped cones over $F$ is equivalent to the category of $I$-shaped cones over $FE$, and use this equivalence to describe the relationship between limits of $F$ and limits of $FE$.




    Here $J$ is assumed to be small and $C$ locally small, although I am not sure this assumptions are needed. I have found a similar idea to mine here, which is to define the following functor



    $$
    begin{align}
    Gamma : int &mathbf{Cone}(_,F) longrightarrow intmathbf{Cone}(_,FE) \
    & (c,(lambda_j)_{jin J}) longmapsto (c,(lambda_{Ei})_{iin I}) \
    (f:c to d &text{ s.t. }lambda_jf = mu_j) longmapsto (f:c to d text{ s.t. } lambda_{Ei}f = mu_{Ei})
    end{align}
    $$



    that takes $lambda : c Rightarrow F$ to the natural transformation that has its components for each object $Ei$, and takes a morphism that commutes with the cones to itself (since it will still commute with the selected legs). Now, it is asserted in the linked post that $Gamma$ should be an isomorphism of categories (in particular an equivalence), but the details aren't specified and I haven't managed to finish the job. So far, here is what I have come up with:




    $Gamma$ is (essentially) surjective: take a cone $nu : c Rightarrow FE$. For each $j in J$, since $E$ is essentially surjective take $varphi_j : Ei_j xrightarrow{sim} j$ be an isomorphism. Now if we define $mu_j$ to be the composite
    $$
    c xrightarrow{nu_{i_j}} FEi_j xrightarrow{Fvarphi_j} Fj
    $$

    then $mu$ is a cone over $c$: if $f: j to j'$ is an arrow on $J$, then $varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j: Ei_j to Ei_{j'}$ must come from a (unique) arrow $s : i_j to i_{j'}$ such that $Es = varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j$. Consequently,
    $$
    begin{align}
    Ffmu_j &= FfFvarphi_jnu_{i_j} = F(fvarphi_j)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} \ & =Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}nu_{i_{j'}} = mu_{j'}
    end{align}
    $$

    and so in effect $mu$ is a cone over $c$. Since we can in particular take each $varphi_{Ei}$ to be $1_{Ei}$ for each $j$ such that $j = Ei$, we get that $Gamma(c,mu) = (c,nu)$.




    It suffices to see now that $Gamma$ is fully faithful (to prove the equivalence, at least). It is clear to me that if $f,g: c to d$ are distinct morphisms that commute with the respective cones over $c$ and $d$, by construction we get that $Gamma f = f neq g = Gamma g$.



    However, if we have $f: c to d$ such that it commutes with the legs of the cones that correspond to the image of $E$, why should it be that $f$ commutes with all legs of the original cones?










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      I'm currently working on the following exercise from Emily Riehl's Category Theory in Context,




      Exercise 3.1.xii. Suppose $E:I stackrel{simeq}{to} J$ defines an equivalence between small categories and consider a diagram $F : J to C$. Show that the category of $J$-shaped cones over $F$ is equivalent to the category of $I$-shaped cones over $FE$, and use this equivalence to describe the relationship between limits of $F$ and limits of $FE$.




      Here $J$ is assumed to be small and $C$ locally small, although I am not sure this assumptions are needed. I have found a similar idea to mine here, which is to define the following functor



      $$
      begin{align}
      Gamma : int &mathbf{Cone}(_,F) longrightarrow intmathbf{Cone}(_,FE) \
      & (c,(lambda_j)_{jin J}) longmapsto (c,(lambda_{Ei})_{iin I}) \
      (f:c to d &text{ s.t. }lambda_jf = mu_j) longmapsto (f:c to d text{ s.t. } lambda_{Ei}f = mu_{Ei})
      end{align}
      $$



      that takes $lambda : c Rightarrow F$ to the natural transformation that has its components for each object $Ei$, and takes a morphism that commutes with the cones to itself (since it will still commute with the selected legs). Now, it is asserted in the linked post that $Gamma$ should be an isomorphism of categories (in particular an equivalence), but the details aren't specified and I haven't managed to finish the job. So far, here is what I have come up with:




      $Gamma$ is (essentially) surjective: take a cone $nu : c Rightarrow FE$. For each $j in J$, since $E$ is essentially surjective take $varphi_j : Ei_j xrightarrow{sim} j$ be an isomorphism. Now if we define $mu_j$ to be the composite
      $$
      c xrightarrow{nu_{i_j}} FEi_j xrightarrow{Fvarphi_j} Fj
      $$

      then $mu$ is a cone over $c$: if $f: j to j'$ is an arrow on $J$, then $varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j: Ei_j to Ei_{j'}$ must come from a (unique) arrow $s : i_j to i_{j'}$ such that $Es = varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j$. Consequently,
      $$
      begin{align}
      Ffmu_j &= FfFvarphi_jnu_{i_j} = F(fvarphi_j)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} \ & =Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}nu_{i_{j'}} = mu_{j'}
      end{align}
      $$

      and so in effect $mu$ is a cone over $c$. Since we can in particular take each $varphi_{Ei}$ to be $1_{Ei}$ for each $j$ such that $j = Ei$, we get that $Gamma(c,mu) = (c,nu)$.




      It suffices to see now that $Gamma$ is fully faithful (to prove the equivalence, at least). It is clear to me that if $f,g: c to d$ are distinct morphisms that commute with the respective cones over $c$ and $d$, by construction we get that $Gamma f = f neq g = Gamma g$.



      However, if we have $f: c to d$ such that it commutes with the legs of the cones that correspond to the image of $E$, why should it be that $f$ commutes with all legs of the original cones?










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      I'm currently working on the following exercise from Emily Riehl's Category Theory in Context,




      Exercise 3.1.xii. Suppose $E:I stackrel{simeq}{to} J$ defines an equivalence between small categories and consider a diagram $F : J to C$. Show that the category of $J$-shaped cones over $F$ is equivalent to the category of $I$-shaped cones over $FE$, and use this equivalence to describe the relationship between limits of $F$ and limits of $FE$.




      Here $J$ is assumed to be small and $C$ locally small, although I am not sure this assumptions are needed. I have found a similar idea to mine here, which is to define the following functor



      $$
      begin{align}
      Gamma : int &mathbf{Cone}(_,F) longrightarrow intmathbf{Cone}(_,FE) \
      & (c,(lambda_j)_{jin J}) longmapsto (c,(lambda_{Ei})_{iin I}) \
      (f:c to d &text{ s.t. }lambda_jf = mu_j) longmapsto (f:c to d text{ s.t. } lambda_{Ei}f = mu_{Ei})
      end{align}
      $$



      that takes $lambda : c Rightarrow F$ to the natural transformation that has its components for each object $Ei$, and takes a morphism that commutes with the cones to itself (since it will still commute with the selected legs). Now, it is asserted in the linked post that $Gamma$ should be an isomorphism of categories (in particular an equivalence), but the details aren't specified and I haven't managed to finish the job. So far, here is what I have come up with:




      $Gamma$ is (essentially) surjective: take a cone $nu : c Rightarrow FE$. For each $j in J$, since $E$ is essentially surjective take $varphi_j : Ei_j xrightarrow{sim} j$ be an isomorphism. Now if we define $mu_j$ to be the composite
      $$
      c xrightarrow{nu_{i_j}} FEi_j xrightarrow{Fvarphi_j} Fj
      $$

      then $mu$ is a cone over $c$: if $f: j to j'$ is an arrow on $J$, then $varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j: Ei_j to Ei_{j'}$ must come from a (unique) arrow $s : i_j to i_{j'}$ such that $Es = varphi_{j'}^{-1}fvarphi_j$. Consequently,
      $$
      begin{align}
      Ffmu_j &= FfFvarphi_jnu_{i_j} = F(fvarphi_j)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} \ & =Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}(FEs)nu_{i_j} = Fvarphi_{i_{j'}}nu_{i_{j'}} = mu_{j'}
      end{align}
      $$

      and so in effect $mu$ is a cone over $c$. Since we can in particular take each $varphi_{Ei}$ to be $1_{Ei}$ for each $j$ such that $j = Ei$, we get that $Gamma(c,mu) = (c,nu)$.




      It suffices to see now that $Gamma$ is fully faithful (to prove the equivalence, at least). It is clear to me that if $f,g: c to d$ are distinct morphisms that commute with the respective cones over $c$ and $d$, by construction we get that $Gamma f = f neq g = Gamma g$.



      However, if we have $f: c to d$ such that it commutes with the legs of the cones that correspond to the image of $E$, why should it be that $f$ commutes with all legs of the original cones?







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          Let $f:cto d$ be such that it commutes with the cones in the image of $E$; and let $jin J$.



          Let $g:jto Ei$ be an isomorphism. You have the following commutative diagrams (sorry for the formatting, I don't know how to do triangles on here)



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{id_c}>> c\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{lambda_{Ei}}V\
          Fj @>>{Fg}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          because $(c,lambda)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          d @>{id_d}>> d\ @V{mu_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          FEi @>>{Fg^{-1}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $(d,mu)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_{Ei}}V\
          FEi @>>{id_{FEi}}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          by hypothesis



          Then you can put these three diagrams side by side in the order (1-3-2) to get



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          Fj @>>{id_{Fj}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $id_dcirc fcirc id_c = f, Fg^{-1}circ id_{FE_i}circ Fg = id_{Fj}$



          and this is exactly what you want. So this comes down to the facts that $(c,lambda)$, $(d,mu)$ are cones over all $J$, that $F$ is a functor and that $E$ is essentially surjective.






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            @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
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          Let $f:cto d$ be such that it commutes with the cones in the image of $E$; and let $jin J$.



          Let $g:jto Ei$ be an isomorphism. You have the following commutative diagrams (sorry for the formatting, I don't know how to do triangles on here)



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{id_c}>> c\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{lambda_{Ei}}V\
          Fj @>>{Fg}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          because $(c,lambda)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          d @>{id_d}>> d\ @V{mu_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          FEi @>>{Fg^{-1}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $(d,mu)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_{Ei}}V\
          FEi @>>{id_{FEi}}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          by hypothesis



          Then you can put these three diagrams side by side in the order (1-3-2) to get



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          Fj @>>{id_{Fj}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $id_dcirc fcirc id_c = f, Fg^{-1}circ id_{FE_i}circ Fg = id_{Fj}$



          and this is exactly what you want. So this comes down to the facts that $(c,lambda)$, $(d,mu)$ are cones over all $J$, that $F$ is a functor and that $E$ is essentially surjective.






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            As usual, awesome answer! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
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            – Guido A.
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            $begingroup$
            @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
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            – Max
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:34
















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          $begingroup$

          Let $f:cto d$ be such that it commutes with the cones in the image of $E$; and let $jin J$.



          Let $g:jto Ei$ be an isomorphism. You have the following commutative diagrams (sorry for the formatting, I don't know how to do triangles on here)



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{id_c}>> c\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{lambda_{Ei}}V\
          Fj @>>{Fg}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          because $(c,lambda)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          d @>{id_d}>> d\ @V{mu_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          FEi @>>{Fg^{-1}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $(d,mu)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_{Ei}}V\
          FEi @>>{id_{FEi}}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          by hypothesis



          Then you can put these three diagrams side by side in the order (1-3-2) to get



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          Fj @>>{id_{Fj}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $id_dcirc fcirc id_c = f, Fg^{-1}circ id_{FE_i}circ Fg = id_{Fj}$



          and this is exactly what you want. So this comes down to the facts that $(c,lambda)$, $(d,mu)$ are cones over all $J$, that $F$ is a functor and that $E$ is essentially surjective.






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            Can I ask what field of mathematics is this? It looks interesting
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            – KKZiomek
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:29










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            As usual, awesome answer! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
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            – Guido A.
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:31






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
            $endgroup$
            – Max
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:34














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          $begingroup$

          Let $f:cto d$ be such that it commutes with the cones in the image of $E$; and let $jin J$.



          Let $g:jto Ei$ be an isomorphism. You have the following commutative diagrams (sorry for the formatting, I don't know how to do triangles on here)



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{id_c}>> c\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{lambda_{Ei}}V\
          Fj @>>{Fg}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          because $(c,lambda)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          d @>{id_d}>> d\ @V{mu_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          FEi @>>{Fg^{-1}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $(d,mu)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_{Ei}}V\
          FEi @>>{id_{FEi}}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          by hypothesis



          Then you can put these three diagrams side by side in the order (1-3-2) to get



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          Fj @>>{id_{Fj}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $id_dcirc fcirc id_c = f, Fg^{-1}circ id_{FE_i}circ Fg = id_{Fj}$



          and this is exactly what you want. So this comes down to the facts that $(c,lambda)$, $(d,mu)$ are cones over all $J$, that $F$ is a functor and that $E$ is essentially surjective.






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          Let $f:cto d$ be such that it commutes with the cones in the image of $E$; and let $jin J$.



          Let $g:jto Ei$ be an isomorphism. You have the following commutative diagrams (sorry for the formatting, I don't know how to do triangles on here)



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{id_c}>> c\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{lambda_{Ei}}V\
          Fj @>>{Fg}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          because $(c,lambda)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          d @>{id_d}>> d\ @V{mu_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          FEi @>>{Fg^{-1}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $(d,mu)$ is a cone



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_{Ei}}VV @VV{mu_{Ei}}V\
          FEi @>>{id_{FEi}}> FE_i
          end{CD}$
          by hypothesis



          Then you can put these three diagrams side by side in the order (1-3-2) to get



          $require{AMScd} begin{CD}
          c @>{f}>> d\ @V{lambda_j}VV @VV{mu_j}V\
          Fj @>>{id_{Fj}}> Fj
          end{CD}$
          because $id_dcirc fcirc id_c = f, Fg^{-1}circ id_{FE_i}circ Fg = id_{Fj}$



          and this is exactly what you want. So this comes down to the facts that $(c,lambda)$, $(d,mu)$ are cones over all $J$, that $F$ is a functor and that $E$ is essentially surjective.







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          • $begingroup$
            Can I ask what field of mathematics is this? It looks interesting
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            – KKZiomek
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:29










          • $begingroup$
            As usual, awesome answer! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
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            – Guido A.
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:31






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
            $endgroup$
            – Max
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:34


















          • $begingroup$
            Can I ask what field of mathematics is this? It looks interesting
            $endgroup$
            – KKZiomek
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:29










          • $begingroup$
            As usual, awesome answer! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Guido A.
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:31






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
            $endgroup$
            – Max
            Dec 25 '18 at 15:34
















          $begingroup$
          Can I ask what field of mathematics is this? It looks interesting
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          – KKZiomek
          Dec 25 '18 at 15:29




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          Can I ask what field of mathematics is this? It looks interesting
          $endgroup$
          – KKZiomek
          Dec 25 '18 at 15:29












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          As usual, awesome answer! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
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          – Guido A.
          Dec 25 '18 at 15:31




          $begingroup$
          As usual, awesome answer! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer.
          $endgroup$
          – Guido A.
          Dec 25 '18 at 15:31




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          @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
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          – Max
          Dec 25 '18 at 15:34




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          @KKZiomek : this is category theory; the OP mentions an interesting textbook about this topic ! Guido A. : you're welcome
          $endgroup$
          – Max
          Dec 25 '18 at 15:34


















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