Why is $cos sqrt z$ entire but $sin sqrt{z}$ isn't?












8












$begingroup$


I've been trying to formulate a way of comparing these two functions, in order to find out why the function $sin sqrt z$ is not entire, but I couldn't find a good way of doing that. What I tried so far:




  • I wrote the series of both functions:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^n}{(2n)!}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^ncdotsqrt{z}}{(2n+1)!}end{align}


  • The $e$ version:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}+e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}-e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2i} ,end{align}



but they didn't help me on solving the problem. How could I progress from here? I could not find a way of writing Cauchy-Riemann equations for $cos$ or $sin$.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$








  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Because the series for $cossqrt{z}$ has no pure $sqrt{z}$ (which is not analytical), only $z$.
    $endgroup$
    – A.Γ.
    Jan 2 at 22:22








  • 5




    $begingroup$
    Welcome to MSE! You almost formatted your question perfectly, which we appreciate (especially from users inexperienced with latex or mathjax). Your exponents hadn't been displaying correctly. This is because e^ix renders as $e^ix$ --- mathjax only interprets the first symbol after ^ as the exponent. To fix this, I added braces: e^{ix} yields $e^{ix}$. Good luck!
    $endgroup$
    – davidlowryduda
    Jan 2 at 22:30






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Notice that the series representation of $sin sqrt{z}$ contains nonintegral powers of $z$, so it is not a power series in $z$---this is the key difference between the two functions here.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 2 at 22:37






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @PaulFrost: $sqrt z$ denote the square root with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$, so the question makes sense.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Here is a way of thinking about the question without reference to a square root function. Let $g(z)$ be a holomorphic function. You want to know when there is another holomorphic function $h(z)$ with $g(z) = h(z^2)$. The answer is that this exists iff $g(z)$ is even.
    $endgroup$
    – hunter
    Jan 3 at 0:50
















8












$begingroup$


I've been trying to formulate a way of comparing these two functions, in order to find out why the function $sin sqrt z$ is not entire, but I couldn't find a good way of doing that. What I tried so far:




  • I wrote the series of both functions:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^n}{(2n)!}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^ncdotsqrt{z}}{(2n+1)!}end{align}


  • The $e$ version:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}+e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}-e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2i} ,end{align}



but they didn't help me on solving the problem. How could I progress from here? I could not find a way of writing Cauchy-Riemann equations for $cos$ or $sin$.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$








  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Because the series for $cossqrt{z}$ has no pure $sqrt{z}$ (which is not analytical), only $z$.
    $endgroup$
    – A.Γ.
    Jan 2 at 22:22








  • 5




    $begingroup$
    Welcome to MSE! You almost formatted your question perfectly, which we appreciate (especially from users inexperienced with latex or mathjax). Your exponents hadn't been displaying correctly. This is because e^ix renders as $e^ix$ --- mathjax only interprets the first symbol after ^ as the exponent. To fix this, I added braces: e^{ix} yields $e^{ix}$. Good luck!
    $endgroup$
    – davidlowryduda
    Jan 2 at 22:30






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Notice that the series representation of $sin sqrt{z}$ contains nonintegral powers of $z$, so it is not a power series in $z$---this is the key difference between the two functions here.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 2 at 22:37






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @PaulFrost: $sqrt z$ denote the square root with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$, so the question makes sense.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Here is a way of thinking about the question without reference to a square root function. Let $g(z)$ be a holomorphic function. You want to know when there is another holomorphic function $h(z)$ with $g(z) = h(z^2)$. The answer is that this exists iff $g(z)$ is even.
    $endgroup$
    – hunter
    Jan 3 at 0:50














8












8








8


1



$begingroup$


I've been trying to formulate a way of comparing these two functions, in order to find out why the function $sin sqrt z$ is not entire, but I couldn't find a good way of doing that. What I tried so far:




  • I wrote the series of both functions:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^n}{(2n)!}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^ncdotsqrt{z}}{(2n+1)!}end{align}


  • The $e$ version:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}+e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}-e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2i} ,end{align}



but they didn't help me on solving the problem. How could I progress from here? I could not find a way of writing Cauchy-Riemann equations for $cos$ or $sin$.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




I've been trying to formulate a way of comparing these two functions, in order to find out why the function $sin sqrt z$ is not entire, but I couldn't find a good way of doing that. What I tried so far:




  • I wrote the series of both functions:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^n}{(2n)!}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=sum_{n=0}^infty frac{(-1)^nz^ncdotsqrt{z}}{(2n+1)!}end{align}


  • The $e$ version:
    begin{align}cos(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}+e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2}\
    sin(sqrt{z})&=frac{e^{isqrt{z}}-e^{-isqrt{z}}}{2i} ,end{align}



but they didn't help me on solving the problem. How could I progress from here? I could not find a way of writing Cauchy-Riemann equations for $cos$ or $sin$.







complex-analysis power-series entire-functions






share|cite|improve this question















share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Jan 3 at 10:10









Paul Frost

11.3k3934




11.3k3934










asked Jan 2 at 22:19









Lincon RibeiroLincon Ribeiro

556




556








  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Because the series for $cossqrt{z}$ has no pure $sqrt{z}$ (which is not analytical), only $z$.
    $endgroup$
    – A.Γ.
    Jan 2 at 22:22








  • 5




    $begingroup$
    Welcome to MSE! You almost formatted your question perfectly, which we appreciate (especially from users inexperienced with latex or mathjax). Your exponents hadn't been displaying correctly. This is because e^ix renders as $e^ix$ --- mathjax only interprets the first symbol after ^ as the exponent. To fix this, I added braces: e^{ix} yields $e^{ix}$. Good luck!
    $endgroup$
    – davidlowryduda
    Jan 2 at 22:30






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Notice that the series representation of $sin sqrt{z}$ contains nonintegral powers of $z$, so it is not a power series in $z$---this is the key difference between the two functions here.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 2 at 22:37






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @PaulFrost: $sqrt z$ denote the square root with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$, so the question makes sense.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Here is a way of thinking about the question without reference to a square root function. Let $g(z)$ be a holomorphic function. You want to know when there is another holomorphic function $h(z)$ with $g(z) = h(z^2)$. The answer is that this exists iff $g(z)$ is even.
    $endgroup$
    – hunter
    Jan 3 at 0:50














  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Because the series for $cossqrt{z}$ has no pure $sqrt{z}$ (which is not analytical), only $z$.
    $endgroup$
    – A.Γ.
    Jan 2 at 22:22








  • 5




    $begingroup$
    Welcome to MSE! You almost formatted your question perfectly, which we appreciate (especially from users inexperienced with latex or mathjax). Your exponents hadn't been displaying correctly. This is because e^ix renders as $e^ix$ --- mathjax only interprets the first symbol after ^ as the exponent. To fix this, I added braces: e^{ix} yields $e^{ix}$. Good luck!
    $endgroup$
    – davidlowryduda
    Jan 2 at 22:30






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Notice that the series representation of $sin sqrt{z}$ contains nonintegral powers of $z$, so it is not a power series in $z$---this is the key difference between the two functions here.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 2 at 22:37






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @PaulFrost: $sqrt z$ denote the square root with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$, so the question makes sense.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Here is a way of thinking about the question without reference to a square root function. Let $g(z)$ be a holomorphic function. You want to know when there is another holomorphic function $h(z)$ with $g(z) = h(z^2)$. The answer is that this exists iff $g(z)$ is even.
    $endgroup$
    – hunter
    Jan 3 at 0:50








4




4




$begingroup$
Because the series for $cossqrt{z}$ has no pure $sqrt{z}$ (which is not analytical), only $z$.
$endgroup$
– A.Γ.
Jan 2 at 22:22






$begingroup$
Because the series for $cossqrt{z}$ has no pure $sqrt{z}$ (which is not analytical), only $z$.
$endgroup$
– A.Γ.
Jan 2 at 22:22






5




5




$begingroup$
Welcome to MSE! You almost formatted your question perfectly, which we appreciate (especially from users inexperienced with latex or mathjax). Your exponents hadn't been displaying correctly. This is because e^ix renders as $e^ix$ --- mathjax only interprets the first symbol after ^ as the exponent. To fix this, I added braces: e^{ix} yields $e^{ix}$. Good luck!
$endgroup$
– davidlowryduda
Jan 2 at 22:30




$begingroup$
Welcome to MSE! You almost formatted your question perfectly, which we appreciate (especially from users inexperienced with latex or mathjax). Your exponents hadn't been displaying correctly. This is because e^ix renders as $e^ix$ --- mathjax only interprets the first symbol after ^ as the exponent. To fix this, I added braces: e^{ix} yields $e^{ix}$. Good luck!
$endgroup$
– davidlowryduda
Jan 2 at 22:30




2




2




$begingroup$
Notice that the series representation of $sin sqrt{z}$ contains nonintegral powers of $z$, so it is not a power series in $z$---this is the key difference between the two functions here.
$endgroup$
– Travis
Jan 2 at 22:37




$begingroup$
Notice that the series representation of $sin sqrt{z}$ contains nonintegral powers of $z$, so it is not a power series in $z$---this is the key difference between the two functions here.
$endgroup$
– Travis
Jan 2 at 22:37




1




1




$begingroup$
@PaulFrost: $sqrt z$ denote the square root with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$, so the question makes sense.
$endgroup$
– idm
Jan 2 at 23:09




$begingroup$
@PaulFrost: $sqrt z$ denote the square root with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$, so the question makes sense.
$endgroup$
– idm
Jan 2 at 23:09




2




2




$begingroup$
Here is a way of thinking about the question without reference to a square root function. Let $g(z)$ be a holomorphic function. You want to know when there is another holomorphic function $h(z)$ with $g(z) = h(z^2)$. The answer is that this exists iff $g(z)$ is even.
$endgroup$
– hunter
Jan 3 at 0:50




$begingroup$
Here is a way of thinking about the question without reference to a square root function. Let $g(z)$ be a holomorphic function. You want to know when there is another holomorphic function $h(z)$ with $g(z) = h(z^2)$. The answer is that this exists iff $g(z)$ is even.
$endgroup$
– hunter
Jan 3 at 0:50










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















4












$begingroup$

Hint Suppose $F(z) := f(sqrt{z})$ is analytic at $z = 0$ for some choice of branch cut of $sqrt{cdot}$, say, $F(w)$ has power series $$F(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w + a_2 w^2 + cdots$$ at $w = 0$. What is the power series of $f(w) = F(w^2)$ at $w = 0$?




Additional hint We have $$f(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w^2 + a_2 w^4 + cdots .$$




This shows that not only is $sin sqrt{z}$ not entire, it's not analytic in any neighborhood of $z = 0$ (for any choice of branch cut).






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:06












  • $begingroup$
    If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 3 at 3:32



















1












$begingroup$

Given any argument $z$, there are exactly two values for the square root, $w$ and $-w$. If the sine of $w$ equals the sine of $-w$ for all $z$, then the two different possible values for the square root of $z$ lead to only a single value of the sine and thus no branch cut is required. But, if $w$ and $-w$ give different sines for any $z$, then there must be a branch cut to separate the two sine values therefore you can't have an entire function.



It turns out this doesn't work because $sin (-w)=-sin w$ and thus $ne sin w$ except where the sine value happens to be zero. We are forced to accept branch cuts between the zeroes of $sin w$, meaning $w=sqrt{z}$ is a multiple of $pi$ and $z$ itself us a multiple of $pi^2$. Can you diagram a relatively simple choice for the needed branch cuts In the complex plane?



Now try it with the cosine function using the same reasoning above, but there is one little difference. Cosine is an even function, not odd, so $cos (-w)=+cos w$ instead of $-cos w$. How does that change the rest of your conclusions above for the cosine function, as opposed to the sine?



Always watch your signs.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 1




    $begingroup$
    In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 0:25












  • $begingroup$
    Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    Jan 3 at 0:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 1:07











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3060040%2fwhy-is-cos-sqrt-z-entire-but-sin-sqrtz-isnt%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown

























2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes








2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes









4












$begingroup$

Hint Suppose $F(z) := f(sqrt{z})$ is analytic at $z = 0$ for some choice of branch cut of $sqrt{cdot}$, say, $F(w)$ has power series $$F(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w + a_2 w^2 + cdots$$ at $w = 0$. What is the power series of $f(w) = F(w^2)$ at $w = 0$?




Additional hint We have $$f(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w^2 + a_2 w^4 + cdots .$$




This shows that not only is $sin sqrt{z}$ not entire, it's not analytic in any neighborhood of $z = 0$ (for any choice of branch cut).






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:06












  • $begingroup$
    If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 3 at 3:32
















4












$begingroup$

Hint Suppose $F(z) := f(sqrt{z})$ is analytic at $z = 0$ for some choice of branch cut of $sqrt{cdot}$, say, $F(w)$ has power series $$F(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w + a_2 w^2 + cdots$$ at $w = 0$. What is the power series of $f(w) = F(w^2)$ at $w = 0$?




Additional hint We have $$f(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w^2 + a_2 w^4 + cdots .$$




This shows that not only is $sin sqrt{z}$ not entire, it's not analytic in any neighborhood of $z = 0$ (for any choice of branch cut).






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:06












  • $begingroup$
    If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 3 at 3:32














4












4








4





$begingroup$

Hint Suppose $F(z) := f(sqrt{z})$ is analytic at $z = 0$ for some choice of branch cut of $sqrt{cdot}$, say, $F(w)$ has power series $$F(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w + a_2 w^2 + cdots$$ at $w = 0$. What is the power series of $f(w) = F(w^2)$ at $w = 0$?




Additional hint We have $$f(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w^2 + a_2 w^4 + cdots .$$




This shows that not only is $sin sqrt{z}$ not entire, it's not analytic in any neighborhood of $z = 0$ (for any choice of branch cut).






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Hint Suppose $F(z) := f(sqrt{z})$ is analytic at $z = 0$ for some choice of branch cut of $sqrt{cdot}$, say, $F(w)$ has power series $$F(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w + a_2 w^2 + cdots$$ at $w = 0$. What is the power series of $f(w) = F(w^2)$ at $w = 0$?




Additional hint We have $$f(w) sim a_0 + a_1 w^2 + a_2 w^4 + cdots .$$




This shows that not only is $sin sqrt{z}$ not entire, it's not analytic in any neighborhood of $z = 0$ (for any choice of branch cut).







share|cite|improve this answer














share|cite|improve this answer



share|cite|improve this answer








edited Jan 3 at 3:35

























answered Jan 2 at 22:31









TravisTravis

61.5k767148




61.5k767148












  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:06












  • $begingroup$
    If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 3 at 3:32


















  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
    $endgroup$
    – idm
    Jan 2 at 23:06












  • $begingroup$
    If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Jan 3 at 3:32
















$begingroup$
What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
$endgroup$
– idm
Jan 2 at 23:06






$begingroup$
What do you mean by : "for some branch cut of $sqrtcdot $ ? $sqrt z$ denote the square root of $z$ with argument in $(-pi/2,pi/2]$.
$endgroup$
– idm
Jan 2 at 23:06














$begingroup$
If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
$endgroup$
– Travis
Jan 3 at 3:32




$begingroup$
If you're not familiar with branch cuts yet, feel free to disregard that phrase---the answer applies when using the particular convention you mention.
$endgroup$
– Travis
Jan 3 at 3:32











1












$begingroup$

Given any argument $z$, there are exactly two values for the square root, $w$ and $-w$. If the sine of $w$ equals the sine of $-w$ for all $z$, then the two different possible values for the square root of $z$ lead to only a single value of the sine and thus no branch cut is required. But, if $w$ and $-w$ give different sines for any $z$, then there must be a branch cut to separate the two sine values therefore you can't have an entire function.



It turns out this doesn't work because $sin (-w)=-sin w$ and thus $ne sin w$ except where the sine value happens to be zero. We are forced to accept branch cuts between the zeroes of $sin w$, meaning $w=sqrt{z}$ is a multiple of $pi$ and $z$ itself us a multiple of $pi^2$. Can you diagram a relatively simple choice for the needed branch cuts In the complex plane?



Now try it with the cosine function using the same reasoning above, but there is one little difference. Cosine is an even function, not odd, so $cos (-w)=+cos w$ instead of $-cos w$. How does that change the rest of your conclusions above for the cosine function, as opposed to the sine?



Always watch your signs.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 1




    $begingroup$
    In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 0:25












  • $begingroup$
    Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    Jan 3 at 0:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 1:07
















1












$begingroup$

Given any argument $z$, there are exactly two values for the square root, $w$ and $-w$. If the sine of $w$ equals the sine of $-w$ for all $z$, then the two different possible values for the square root of $z$ lead to only a single value of the sine and thus no branch cut is required. But, if $w$ and $-w$ give different sines for any $z$, then there must be a branch cut to separate the two sine values therefore you can't have an entire function.



It turns out this doesn't work because $sin (-w)=-sin w$ and thus $ne sin w$ except where the sine value happens to be zero. We are forced to accept branch cuts between the zeroes of $sin w$, meaning $w=sqrt{z}$ is a multiple of $pi$ and $z$ itself us a multiple of $pi^2$. Can you diagram a relatively simple choice for the needed branch cuts In the complex plane?



Now try it with the cosine function using the same reasoning above, but there is one little difference. Cosine is an even function, not odd, so $cos (-w)=+cos w$ instead of $-cos w$. How does that change the rest of your conclusions above for the cosine function, as opposed to the sine?



Always watch your signs.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 1




    $begingroup$
    In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 0:25












  • $begingroup$
    Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    Jan 3 at 0:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 1:07














1












1








1





$begingroup$

Given any argument $z$, there are exactly two values for the square root, $w$ and $-w$. If the sine of $w$ equals the sine of $-w$ for all $z$, then the two different possible values for the square root of $z$ lead to only a single value of the sine and thus no branch cut is required. But, if $w$ and $-w$ give different sines for any $z$, then there must be a branch cut to separate the two sine values therefore you can't have an entire function.



It turns out this doesn't work because $sin (-w)=-sin w$ and thus $ne sin w$ except where the sine value happens to be zero. We are forced to accept branch cuts between the zeroes of $sin w$, meaning $w=sqrt{z}$ is a multiple of $pi$ and $z$ itself us a multiple of $pi^2$. Can you diagram a relatively simple choice for the needed branch cuts In the complex plane?



Now try it with the cosine function using the same reasoning above, but there is one little difference. Cosine is an even function, not odd, so $cos (-w)=+cos w$ instead of $-cos w$. How does that change the rest of your conclusions above for the cosine function, as opposed to the sine?



Always watch your signs.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Given any argument $z$, there are exactly two values for the square root, $w$ and $-w$. If the sine of $w$ equals the sine of $-w$ for all $z$, then the two different possible values for the square root of $z$ lead to only a single value of the sine and thus no branch cut is required. But, if $w$ and $-w$ give different sines for any $z$, then there must be a branch cut to separate the two sine values therefore you can't have an entire function.



It turns out this doesn't work because $sin (-w)=-sin w$ and thus $ne sin w$ except where the sine value happens to be zero. We are forced to accept branch cuts between the zeroes of $sin w$, meaning $w=sqrt{z}$ is a multiple of $pi$ and $z$ itself us a multiple of $pi^2$. Can you diagram a relatively simple choice for the needed branch cuts In the complex plane?



Now try it with the cosine function using the same reasoning above, but there is one little difference. Cosine is an even function, not odd, so $cos (-w)=+cos w$ instead of $-cos w$. How does that change the rest of your conclusions above for the cosine function, as opposed to the sine?



Always watch your signs.







share|cite|improve this answer














share|cite|improve this answer



share|cite|improve this answer








edited Jan 3 at 13:49

























answered Jan 3 at 0:12









Oscar LanziOscar Lanzi

12.9k12136




12.9k12136








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 0:25












  • $begingroup$
    Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    Jan 3 at 0:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 1:07














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 0:25












  • $begingroup$
    Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Oscar Lanzi
    Jan 3 at 0:36








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
    $endgroup$
    – Pedro Tamaroff
    Jan 3 at 1:07








1




1




$begingroup$
In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
$endgroup$
– Pedro Tamaroff
Jan 3 at 0:25






$begingroup$
In "...where the wine value..." perhaps you meant "sine"?
$endgroup$
– Pedro Tamaroff
Jan 3 at 0:25














$begingroup$
Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 3 at 0:36






$begingroup$
Please correct this. My device often auticorrects words to the wrong word and I cannot chase it down 100% of the time. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 3 at 0:36






1




1




$begingroup$
Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
$endgroup$
– Pedro Tamaroff
Jan 3 at 1:07




$begingroup$
Um... don't worry. You can always edit your own posts.
$endgroup$
– Pedro Tamaroff
Jan 3 at 1:07


















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3060040%2fwhy-is-cos-sqrt-z-entire-but-sin-sqrtz-isnt%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Quarter-circle Tiles

build a pushdown automaton that recognizes the reverse language of a given pushdown automaton?

Mont Emei