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Lengths of the sides of a triangle, $a$, $b$ and $c$ are given. We are required to find the circumradius of the triangle formed by the vertices $A$, $B$ and $G$, where $G$ is the centroid of the triangle $ABC$. The following is a picture of the problem: (w/o the given values for I don't want this to come across as a homework question)



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I approached this problem by finding out the lengths of the sides $AG$ and $BG$ of the triangle $GAB$ by using the formula to find the length of the median drawn from any vertex of a triangle. After obtaining these two values(I already know the length $AB$), I used the formula for circumradius given as ABC/4∆ (Where ∆ is the area of the triangle) but I have not obtained the correct answer. I have checked and rechecked for calculation mistakes but nope! None seem to be there.



Is my method correct? Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks so much in advance :) Regards.










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  • No, that's alright, thanks :)
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Lengths of the sides of a triangle, $a$, $b$ and $c$ are given. We are required to find the circumradius of the triangle formed by the vertices $A$, $B$ and $G$, where $G$ is the centroid of the triangle $ABC$. The following is a picture of the problem: (w/o the given values for I don't want this to come across as a homework question)



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I approached this problem by finding out the lengths of the sides $AG$ and $BG$ of the triangle $GAB$ by using the formula to find the length of the median drawn from any vertex of a triangle. After obtaining these two values(I already know the length $AB$), I used the formula for circumradius given as ABC/4∆ (Where ∆ is the area of the triangle) but I have not obtained the correct answer. I have checked and rechecked for calculation mistakes but nope! None seem to be there.



Is my method correct? Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks so much in advance :) Regards.










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    Sep 16 '16 at 13:36













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Lengths of the sides of a triangle, $a$, $b$ and $c$ are given. We are required to find the circumradius of the triangle formed by the vertices $A$, $B$ and $G$, where $G$ is the centroid of the triangle $ABC$. The following is a picture of the problem: (w/o the given values for I don't want this to come across as a homework question)



Problem



I approached this problem by finding out the lengths of the sides $AG$ and $BG$ of the triangle $GAB$ by using the formula to find the length of the median drawn from any vertex of a triangle. After obtaining these two values(I already know the length $AB$), I used the formula for circumradius given as ABC/4∆ (Where ∆ is the area of the triangle) but I have not obtained the correct answer. I have checked and rechecked for calculation mistakes but nope! None seem to be there.



Is my method correct? Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks so much in advance :) Regards.










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Lengths of the sides of a triangle, $a$, $b$ and $c$ are given. We are required to find the circumradius of the triangle formed by the vertices $A$, $B$ and $G$, where $G$ is the centroid of the triangle $ABC$. The following is a picture of the problem: (w/o the given values for I don't want this to come across as a homework question)



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I approached this problem by finding out the lengths of the sides $AG$ and $BG$ of the triangle $GAB$ by using the formula to find the length of the median drawn from any vertex of a triangle. After obtaining these two values(I already know the length $AB$), I used the formula for circumradius given as ABC/4∆ (Where ∆ is the area of the triangle) but I have not obtained the correct answer. I have checked and rechecked for calculation mistakes but nope! None seem to be there.



Is my method correct? Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks so much in advance :) Regards.







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  • No, that's alright, thanks :)
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The formula for length of $AG = frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AC^2-BC^2+AB^2}$. Similarly, the length of $BG=frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AB^2+BC^2-AC^2}$. Now, we can find the circumradius of the triangle is $$frac{ABcdot BGcdot AG}{4sqrt{s(s-AB)(s-BG)(s-AG)}}$$, where $s=frac{AG+BG+AB}{2}$.



If you are given $AB,BC,AC$, surely you cannot get the wrong answer unless there is a calculation error.






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  • Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:24












  • *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:27










  • Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:29










  • Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:49










  • You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:51


















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By Euler's formula $R=frac{abc}{4Delta}$, the circumradius of $ABG$ is given by



$$ R_{ABG} = frac{cleft(frac{2}{3}m_aright)left(frac{2}{3}m_bright)}{4[ABG]} = color{red}{frac{c, m_a, m_b}{3[ABC]}} = frac{4}{3}Rleft(frac{m_a}{a}right)left(frac{m_b}{b}right)$$
where
$$ m_a = frac{1}{2}sqrt{2b^2+2c^2-a^2} $$
follows from Stewart's theorem.






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    The formula for length of $AG = frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AC^2-BC^2+AB^2}$. Similarly, the length of $BG=frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AB^2+BC^2-AC^2}$. Now, we can find the circumradius of the triangle is $$frac{ABcdot BGcdot AG}{4sqrt{s(s-AB)(s-BG)(s-AG)}}$$, where $s=frac{AG+BG+AB}{2}$.



    If you are given $AB,BC,AC$, surely you cannot get the wrong answer unless there is a calculation error.






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    • Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:24












    • *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:27










    • Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:29










    • Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:49










    • You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:51















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    The formula for length of $AG = frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AC^2-BC^2+AB^2}$. Similarly, the length of $BG=frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AB^2+BC^2-AC^2}$. Now, we can find the circumradius of the triangle is $$frac{ABcdot BGcdot AG}{4sqrt{s(s-AB)(s-BG)(s-AG)}}$$, where $s=frac{AG+BG+AB}{2}$.



    If you are given $AB,BC,AC$, surely you cannot get the wrong answer unless there is a calculation error.






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    • Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:24












    • *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:27










    • Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:29










    • Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:49










    • You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:51













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    The formula for length of $AG = frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AC^2-BC^2+AB^2}$. Similarly, the length of $BG=frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AB^2+BC^2-AC^2}$. Now, we can find the circumradius of the triangle is $$frac{ABcdot BGcdot AG}{4sqrt{s(s-AB)(s-BG)(s-AG)}}$$, where $s=frac{AG+BG+AB}{2}$.



    If you are given $AB,BC,AC$, surely you cannot get the wrong answer unless there is a calculation error.






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    The formula for length of $AG = frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AC^2-BC^2+AB^2}$. Similarly, the length of $BG=frac{2}{3}cdotfrac{1}{2}sqrt{AB^2+BC^2-AC^2}$. Now, we can find the circumradius of the triangle is $$frac{ABcdot BGcdot AG}{4sqrt{s(s-AB)(s-BG)(s-AG)}}$$, where $s=frac{AG+BG+AB}{2}$.



    If you are given $AB,BC,AC$, surely you cannot get the wrong answer unless there is a calculation error.







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    • Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:24












    • *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:27










    • Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:29










    • Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:49










    • You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:51


















    • Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:24












    • *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:27










    • Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:29










    • Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
      – Kaumudi H
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:49










    • You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
      – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
      Aug 25 '16 at 6:51
















    Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:24






    Huh? Since the formula to find the length of the median drawn from vertex A is given by ½[sqrt(2b²+2c²-a²)], I simply divided this by half to get AG. Is this not correct? Oops, maybe not. I didn't learn the formula that you've provided here and it's not required to solve the problem either 'cause in actuality, the triangle given is a right angled triangle for which one can find the coordinates of the centroid as (base/3, height/3), correct?
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:24














    *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:27




    *I simply drew another triangle to find out answers for the general case. In the question, a=3, b=4, and c=5 :)
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:27












    Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:29




    Oh dear, you should have told me your triangle was right angled! There surely is a very easy formula in that case!
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:29












    Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:49




    Sorry :( I wanted to find if my method was correct for the general triangle too. Is the formula for the coordinates of the centroid if a right angled triangle that I gave in my previous comment correct?
    – Kaumudi H
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:49












    You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:51




    You don't divide by half. The centriod divides all the medians in the ratio $2:1$, where the $2$ is the path from vertex to centroid, and the $1$ is from the centroid to the opposite side. Hence, you must divide the length of the median by $frac{2}{3}$ to obtain $AG$ and $BG$.
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 25 '16 at 6:51










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    By Euler's formula $R=frac{abc}{4Delta}$, the circumradius of $ABG$ is given by



    $$ R_{ABG} = frac{cleft(frac{2}{3}m_aright)left(frac{2}{3}m_bright)}{4[ABG]} = color{red}{frac{c, m_a, m_b}{3[ABC]}} = frac{4}{3}Rleft(frac{m_a}{a}right)left(frac{m_b}{b}right)$$
    where
    $$ m_a = frac{1}{2}sqrt{2b^2+2c^2-a^2} $$
    follows from Stewart's theorem.






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      By Euler's formula $R=frac{abc}{4Delta}$, the circumradius of $ABG$ is given by



      $$ R_{ABG} = frac{cleft(frac{2}{3}m_aright)left(frac{2}{3}m_bright)}{4[ABG]} = color{red}{frac{c, m_a, m_b}{3[ABC]}} = frac{4}{3}Rleft(frac{m_a}{a}right)left(frac{m_b}{b}right)$$
      where
      $$ m_a = frac{1}{2}sqrt{2b^2+2c^2-a^2} $$
      follows from Stewart's theorem.






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        By Euler's formula $R=frac{abc}{4Delta}$, the circumradius of $ABG$ is given by



        $$ R_{ABG} = frac{cleft(frac{2}{3}m_aright)left(frac{2}{3}m_bright)}{4[ABG]} = color{red}{frac{c, m_a, m_b}{3[ABC]}} = frac{4}{3}Rleft(frac{m_a}{a}right)left(frac{m_b}{b}right)$$
        where
        $$ m_a = frac{1}{2}sqrt{2b^2+2c^2-a^2} $$
        follows from Stewart's theorem.






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        By Euler's formula $R=frac{abc}{4Delta}$, the circumradius of $ABG$ is given by



        $$ R_{ABG} = frac{cleft(frac{2}{3}m_aright)left(frac{2}{3}m_bright)}{4[ABG]} = color{red}{frac{c, m_a, m_b}{3[ABC]}} = frac{4}{3}Rleft(frac{m_a}{a}right)left(frac{m_b}{b}right)$$
        where
        $$ m_a = frac{1}{2}sqrt{2b^2+2c^2-a^2} $$
        follows from Stewart's theorem.







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