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Show that
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frac{d}{dx} a^x = a^x ln a.
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      Show that
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      frac{d}{dx} a^x = a^x ln a.
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      How would I do a proof for this. I can't seem to get it to work anyway I try.



      I know that
      $$
      frac{d}{dx} e^x = e^x.
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      Show that
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      frac{d}{dx} a^x = a^x ln a.
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      How would I do a proof for this. I can't seem to get it to work anyway I try.



      I know that
      $$
      frac{d}{dx} e^x = e^x.
      $$
      Does that help me here?







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          Hint: $a^x=e^{ln a^x}=e^{xln a}$.






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            Let $f : mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be given by $f(x)=a^x$ and consider the $ln$ function. We can take the composition so that we have:



            $$(lncirc f)(x)=ln (a^x)=xln a$$



            Now, if we take the derivative, on the left hand side we use the chain rule and on the right hand side we differentiate as usual so that we have:



            $$frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}=ln a$$



            Now solving for $f'(x)$ gives $f'(x) = f(x) ln a$ so that $f'(x) = a^x ln a$. This useful technique can be used to take derivatives of other functions: we compose the original function with the inverse and then differentiate on both sides and use the same idea we've used here, this technique can simplify many derivatives and save a lot of time in some situations.






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              Hint: Write $y = a^x$ or equivalently $ln y = x ln a$ and use implicit differentiation.






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                enter image description here, the last term, enter image description here, can be explained by L'Hopital's rule, just taking the limits of the numerator and denominator one of each time.






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                  Here are the steps
                  $$
                  frac{d}{dx} left[a^xright] = frac{d}{dx} left[e^{ln a^x}right]= e^{ln a^x} frac{d}{dx} left[ln a^xright]
                  $$
                  $$
                  = a^x frac{d}{dx} left[xln aright] = a^xleft(ln aright)frac{d}{dx} left[xright]= a^xln a
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                    $ frac{d}{dx} a^x=$



                    $=d/dx$ $e^{ln (a^x)}=$



                    $=d/dx e^{xln(a)}$ just as you said.



                    Now it's time for chain rule.



                    $f(x)=e^x$



                    $g(x)=x*ln(a)$



                    $a^x= f(g(x))$



                    last comment before I get solving



                    $a=e^{ln(a)}$



                    now let's get it done



                    $d/dx e^{x ln(a)}=$



                    $=e^{x*ln(a)} d/dx (x ln(a))=$ (by chain rule)



                    $=e^{x ln(a)} * ln(a)$



                    and that is the solution. Wait it doesnt look correct --> we should do some algebra!



                    Show for yourself that



                    $e^{x*ln(a)}=( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ but as we said that $a = e^{ln(a)}$ so $( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ actually equals $a^x$ and of course $e^{x*ln(a)}$ equals a^x



                    With what we just said you can see that $e^{x * ln(a)} ln(a)$ equals $a^x ln(a)$ or



                    $$d/dx a^x = a^x ln(a)$$






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                    Let $y = a^x$



                    Then taking log on both side to the base $e$



                    We have;



                    $ ln y = ln a^x$



                    $ ln y = xcdot ln a$



                    Taking derivative with respect to $x$;



                    $frac d{dx} ln y = frac d{dx} xcdot ln a$



                    (I have applied chain rule here>>)



                    $ frac 1y frac{dy}{dx} = ln a + 0$



                    $ frac {dy}{dx} = ycdot ln a$



                    We know $y= a^x$



                    So, $frac {dy}{dx} = a^x ln a$



                    Hope it was easier than other methodologies used to derive it!






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                    Hint: $a^x=e^{ln a^x}=e^{xln a}$.






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                        Hint: $a^x=e^{ln a^x}=e^{xln a}$.






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                            Let $f : mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be given by $f(x)=a^x$ and consider the $ln$ function. We can take the composition so that we have:



                            $$(lncirc f)(x)=ln (a^x)=xln a$$



                            Now, if we take the derivative, on the left hand side we use the chain rule and on the right hand side we differentiate as usual so that we have:



                            $$frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}=ln a$$



                            Now solving for $f'(x)$ gives $f'(x) = f(x) ln a$ so that $f'(x) = a^x ln a$. This useful technique can be used to take derivatives of other functions: we compose the original function with the inverse and then differentiate on both sides and use the same idea we've used here, this technique can simplify many derivatives and save a lot of time in some situations.






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                              Let $f : mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be given by $f(x)=a^x$ and consider the $ln$ function. We can take the composition so that we have:



                              $$(lncirc f)(x)=ln (a^x)=xln a$$



                              Now, if we take the derivative, on the left hand side we use the chain rule and on the right hand side we differentiate as usual so that we have:



                              $$frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}=ln a$$



                              Now solving for $f'(x)$ gives $f'(x) = f(x) ln a$ so that $f'(x) = a^x ln a$. This useful technique can be used to take derivatives of other functions: we compose the original function with the inverse and then differentiate on both sides and use the same idea we've used here, this technique can simplify many derivatives and save a lot of time in some situations.






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                                Let $f : mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be given by $f(x)=a^x$ and consider the $ln$ function. We can take the composition so that we have:



                                $$(lncirc f)(x)=ln (a^x)=xln a$$



                                Now, if we take the derivative, on the left hand side we use the chain rule and on the right hand side we differentiate as usual so that we have:



                                $$frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}=ln a$$



                                Now solving for $f'(x)$ gives $f'(x) = f(x) ln a$ so that $f'(x) = a^x ln a$. This useful technique can be used to take derivatives of other functions: we compose the original function with the inverse and then differentiate on both sides and use the same idea we've used here, this technique can simplify many derivatives and save a lot of time in some situations.






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                                Let $f : mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be given by $f(x)=a^x$ and consider the $ln$ function. We can take the composition so that we have:



                                $$(lncirc f)(x)=ln (a^x)=xln a$$



                                Now, if we take the derivative, on the left hand side we use the chain rule and on the right hand side we differentiate as usual so that we have:



                                $$frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}=ln a$$



                                Now solving for $f'(x)$ gives $f'(x) = f(x) ln a$ so that $f'(x) = a^x ln a$. This useful technique can be used to take derivatives of other functions: we compose the original function with the inverse and then differentiate on both sides and use the same idea we've used here, this technique can simplify many derivatives and save a lot of time in some situations.







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                                    Hint: Write $y = a^x$ or equivalently $ln y = x ln a$ and use implicit differentiation.






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                                      Hint: Write $y = a^x$ or equivalently $ln y = x ln a$ and use implicit differentiation.






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                                        Hint: Write $y = a^x$ or equivalently $ln y = x ln a$ and use implicit differentiation.






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                                            enter image description here, the last term, enter image description here, can be explained by L'Hopital's rule, just taking the limits of the numerator and denominator one of each time.






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                                              enter image description here, the last term, enter image description here, can be explained by L'Hopital's rule, just taking the limits of the numerator and denominator one of each time.






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                                                enter image description here, the last term, enter image description here, can be explained by L'Hopital's rule, just taking the limits of the numerator and denominator one of each time.






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                                                enter image description here, the last term, enter image description here, can be explained by L'Hopital's rule, just taking the limits of the numerator and denominator one of each time.







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                                                    Here are the steps
                                                    $$
                                                    frac{d}{dx} left[a^xright] = frac{d}{dx} left[e^{ln a^x}right]= e^{ln a^x} frac{d}{dx} left[ln a^xright]
                                                    $$
                                                    $$
                                                    = a^x frac{d}{dx} left[xln aright] = a^xleft(ln aright)frac{d}{dx} left[xright]= a^xln a
                                                    $$






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                                                      Here are the steps
                                                      $$
                                                      frac{d}{dx} left[a^xright] = frac{d}{dx} left[e^{ln a^x}right]= e^{ln a^x} frac{d}{dx} left[ln a^xright]
                                                      $$
                                                      $$
                                                      = a^x frac{d}{dx} left[xln aright] = a^xleft(ln aright)frac{d}{dx} left[xright]= a^xln a
                                                      $$






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                                                        Here are the steps
                                                        $$
                                                        frac{d}{dx} left[a^xright] = frac{d}{dx} left[e^{ln a^x}right]= e^{ln a^x} frac{d}{dx} left[ln a^xright]
                                                        $$
                                                        $$
                                                        = a^x frac{d}{dx} left[xln aright] = a^xleft(ln aright)frac{d}{dx} left[xright]= a^xln a
                                                        $$






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                                                        Here are the steps
                                                        $$
                                                        frac{d}{dx} left[a^xright] = frac{d}{dx} left[e^{ln a^x}right]= e^{ln a^x} frac{d}{dx} left[ln a^xright]
                                                        $$
                                                        $$
                                                        = a^x frac{d}{dx} left[xln aright] = a^xleft(ln aright)frac{d}{dx} left[xright]= a^xln a
                                                        $$







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                                                            $ frac{d}{dx} a^x=$



                                                            $=d/dx$ $e^{ln (a^x)}=$



                                                            $=d/dx e^{xln(a)}$ just as you said.



                                                            Now it's time for chain rule.



                                                            $f(x)=e^x$



                                                            $g(x)=x*ln(a)$



                                                            $a^x= f(g(x))$



                                                            last comment before I get solving



                                                            $a=e^{ln(a)}$



                                                            now let's get it done



                                                            $d/dx e^{x ln(a)}=$



                                                            $=e^{x*ln(a)} d/dx (x ln(a))=$ (by chain rule)



                                                            $=e^{x ln(a)} * ln(a)$



                                                            and that is the solution. Wait it doesnt look correct --> we should do some algebra!



                                                            Show for yourself that



                                                            $e^{x*ln(a)}=( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ but as we said that $a = e^{ln(a)}$ so $( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ actually equals $a^x$ and of course $e^{x*ln(a)}$ equals a^x



                                                            With what we just said you can see that $e^{x * ln(a)} ln(a)$ equals $a^x ln(a)$ or



                                                            $$d/dx a^x = a^x ln(a)$$






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                                                            $ frac{d}{dx} a^x=$



                                                            $=d/dx$ $e^{ln (a^x)}=$



                                                            $=d/dx e^{xln(a)}$ just as you said.



                                                            Now it's time for chain rule.



                                                            $f(x)=e^x$



                                                            $g(x)=x*ln(a)$



                                                            $a^x= f(g(x))$



                                                            last comment before I get solving



                                                            $a=e^{ln(a)}$



                                                            now let's get it done



                                                            $d/dx e^{x ln(a)}=$



                                                            $=e^{x*ln(a)} d/dx (x ln(a))=$ (by chain rule)



                                                            $=e^{x ln(a)} * ln(a)$



                                                            and that is the solution. Wait it doesnt look correct --> we should do some algebra!



                                                            Show for yourself that



                                                            $e^{x*ln(a)}=( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ but as we said that $a = e^{ln(a)}$ so $( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ actually equals $a^x$ and of course $e^{x*ln(a)}$ equals a^x



                                                            With what we just said you can see that $e^{x * ln(a)} ln(a)$ equals $a^x ln(a)$ or



                                                            $$d/dx a^x = a^x ln(a)$$






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                                                            $ frac{d}{dx} a^x=$



                                                            $=d/dx$ $e^{ln (a^x)}=$



                                                            $=d/dx e^{xln(a)}$ just as you said.



                                                            Now it's time for chain rule.



                                                            $f(x)=e^x$



                                                            $g(x)=x*ln(a)$



                                                            $a^x= f(g(x))$



                                                            last comment before I get solving



                                                            $a=e^{ln(a)}$



                                                            now let's get it done



                                                            $d/dx e^{x ln(a)}=$



                                                            $=e^{x*ln(a)} d/dx (x ln(a))=$ (by chain rule)



                                                            $=e^{x ln(a)} * ln(a)$



                                                            and that is the solution. Wait it doesnt look correct --> we should do some algebra!



                                                            Show for yourself that



                                                            $e^{x*ln(a)}=( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ but as we said that $a = e^{ln(a)}$ so $( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ actually equals $a^x$ and of course $e^{x*ln(a)}$ equals a^x



                                                            With what we just said you can see that $e^{x * ln(a)} ln(a)$ equals $a^x ln(a)$ or



                                                            $$d/dx a^x = a^x ln(a)$$






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                                                            $ frac{d}{dx} a^x=$



                                                            $=d/dx$ $e^{ln (a^x)}=$



                                                            $=d/dx e^{xln(a)}$ just as you said.



                                                            Now it's time for chain rule.



                                                            $f(x)=e^x$



                                                            $g(x)=x*ln(a)$



                                                            $a^x= f(g(x))$



                                                            last comment before I get solving



                                                            $a=e^{ln(a)}$



                                                            now let's get it done



                                                            $d/dx e^{x ln(a)}=$



                                                            $=e^{x*ln(a)} d/dx (x ln(a))=$ (by chain rule)



                                                            $=e^{x ln(a)} * ln(a)$



                                                            and that is the solution. Wait it doesnt look correct --> we should do some algebra!



                                                            Show for yourself that



                                                            $e^{x*ln(a)}=( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ but as we said that $a = e^{ln(a)}$ so $( e^{ln(a)} )^x$ actually equals $a^x$ and of course $e^{x*ln(a)}$ equals a^x



                                                            With what we just said you can see that $e^{x * ln(a)} ln(a)$ equals $a^x ln(a)$ or



                                                            $$d/dx a^x = a^x ln(a)$$







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                                                            Let $y = a^x$



                                                            Then taking log on both side to the base $e$



                                                            We have;



                                                            $ ln y = ln a^x$



                                                            $ ln y = xcdot ln a$



                                                            Taking derivative with respect to $x$;



                                                            $frac d{dx} ln y = frac d{dx} xcdot ln a$



                                                            (I have applied chain rule here>>)



                                                            $ frac 1y frac{dy}{dx} = ln a + 0$



                                                            $ frac {dy}{dx} = ycdot ln a$



                                                            We know $y= a^x$



                                                            So, $frac {dy}{dx} = a^x ln a$



                                                            Hope it was easier than other methodologies used to derive it!






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                                                            Let $y = a^x$



                                                            Then taking log on both side to the base $e$



                                                            We have;



                                                            $ ln y = ln a^x$



                                                            $ ln y = xcdot ln a$



                                                            Taking derivative with respect to $x$;



                                                            $frac d{dx} ln y = frac d{dx} xcdot ln a$



                                                            (I have applied chain rule here>>)



                                                            $ frac 1y frac{dy}{dx} = ln a + 0$



                                                            $ frac {dy}{dx} = ycdot ln a$



                                                            We know $y= a^x$



                                                            So, $frac {dy}{dx} = a^x ln a$



                                                            Hope it was easier than other methodologies used to derive it!






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                                                            Let $y = a^x$



                                                            Then taking log on both side to the base $e$



                                                            We have;



                                                            $ ln y = ln a^x$



                                                            $ ln y = xcdot ln a$



                                                            Taking derivative with respect to $x$;



                                                            $frac d{dx} ln y = frac d{dx} xcdot ln a$



                                                            (I have applied chain rule here>>)



                                                            $ frac 1y frac{dy}{dx} = ln a + 0$



                                                            $ frac {dy}{dx} = ycdot ln a$



                                                            We know $y= a^x$



                                                            So, $frac {dy}{dx} = a^x ln a$



                                                            Hope it was easier than other methodologies used to derive it!






                                                            share|cite|improve this answer














                                                            Let $y = a^x$



                                                            Then taking log on both side to the base $e$



                                                            We have;



                                                            $ ln y = ln a^x$



                                                            $ ln y = xcdot ln a$



                                                            Taking derivative with respect to $x$;



                                                            $frac d{dx} ln y = frac d{dx} xcdot ln a$



                                                            (I have applied chain rule here>>)



                                                            $ frac 1y frac{dy}{dx} = ln a + 0$



                                                            $ frac {dy}{dx} = ycdot ln a$



                                                            We know $y= a^x$



                                                            So, $frac {dy}{dx} = a^x ln a$



                                                            Hope it was easier than other methodologies used to derive it!







                                                            share|cite|improve this answer














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                                                            • The question is five years old and your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
                                                              – José Carlos Santos
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                                                            • The question is five years old and your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
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                                                            The question is five years old and your answer adds nothing new to the already existing answers.
                                                            – José Carlos Santos
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