Is there any specific law outlawing private nuclear weapons?
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I am not asking about any indirect or circumstantial restriction. Is there any law in any country preventing me from owning a nuclear weapon there? Is it a plutonium license or something specific to nuclear weapons?
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I would suggest adding a country tag - asking about the laws in nearly 200 jurisdictions around the world is quite broad.
– CramerTV
Dec 4 at 3:19
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Apart from anything else possessing any explosives requires a permit or license in most places (at least in principle). Hard to imagine a nuke not being covered by something like that. Anti terrorist legislation tends to have a lot of "catch all" type language in it as well. Even your basic "possession of an offensive weapon" type charge in criminal law could cover this. Are you asking if a law explicitly mentioning nuclear weapons exists ?
– StephenG
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For the US, a somewhat related case is David Hahn, aka the Radioactive Boy Scout
– BruceWayne
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I would be more curious to know if there are any countries where it is not explicitly illegal to own a private nuclear weapon. It's not like thermonuclear bombs are an odd rarity that might have slipped the legislative eye - (nearly?) every country in the world, I'm sure, has very explicit restrictions on the possession and transfer of any type of nuclear materials, especially weapons grade materials. We did, after all, spend half a century as a planet with the damned things pointed at each other in the scariest stalemate in human history. The governments of the world kinda noticed that.
– J...
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@PeterTaylor Can you cite a country with such a legal system? (Everything forbidden)? This sounds completely impractical... a law to start walking with the left or right foot first, a law to allow you to use toothpaste, a law to allow you to breathe more than ten times per minute... in short, I don't think I believe you.
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I am not asking about any indirect or circumstantial restriction. Is there any law in any country preventing me from owning a nuclear weapon there? Is it a plutonium license or something specific to nuclear weapons?
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I am not asking about any indirect or circumstantial restriction. Is there any law in any country preventing me from owning a nuclear weapon there? Is it a plutonium license or something specific to nuclear weapons?
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I would suggest adding a country tag - asking about the laws in nearly 200 jurisdictions around the world is quite broad.
– CramerTV
Dec 4 at 3:19
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Apart from anything else possessing any explosives requires a permit or license in most places (at least in principle). Hard to imagine a nuke not being covered by something like that. Anti terrorist legislation tends to have a lot of "catch all" type language in it as well. Even your basic "possession of an offensive weapon" type charge in criminal law could cover this. Are you asking if a law explicitly mentioning nuclear weapons exists ?
– StephenG
Dec 4 at 7:18
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For the US, a somewhat related case is David Hahn, aka the Radioactive Boy Scout
– BruceWayne
Dec 4 at 15:23
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I would be more curious to know if there are any countries where it is not explicitly illegal to own a private nuclear weapon. It's not like thermonuclear bombs are an odd rarity that might have slipped the legislative eye - (nearly?) every country in the world, I'm sure, has very explicit restrictions on the possession and transfer of any type of nuclear materials, especially weapons grade materials. We did, after all, spend half a century as a planet with the damned things pointed at each other in the scariest stalemate in human history. The governments of the world kinda noticed that.
– J...
Dec 4 at 17:13
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@PeterTaylor Can you cite a country with such a legal system? (Everything forbidden)? This sounds completely impractical... a law to start walking with the left or right foot first, a law to allow you to use toothpaste, a law to allow you to breathe more than ten times per minute... in short, I don't think I believe you.
– J...
Dec 6 at 14:48
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I would suggest adding a country tag - asking about the laws in nearly 200 jurisdictions around the world is quite broad.
– CramerTV
Dec 4 at 3:19
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Apart from anything else possessing any explosives requires a permit or license in most places (at least in principle). Hard to imagine a nuke not being covered by something like that. Anti terrorist legislation tends to have a lot of "catch all" type language in it as well. Even your basic "possession of an offensive weapon" type charge in criminal law could cover this. Are you asking if a law explicitly mentioning nuclear weapons exists ?
– StephenG
Dec 4 at 7:18
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For the US, a somewhat related case is David Hahn, aka the Radioactive Boy Scout
– BruceWayne
Dec 4 at 15:23
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I would be more curious to know if there are any countries where it is not explicitly illegal to own a private nuclear weapon. It's not like thermonuclear bombs are an odd rarity that might have slipped the legislative eye - (nearly?) every country in the world, I'm sure, has very explicit restrictions on the possession and transfer of any type of nuclear materials, especially weapons grade materials. We did, after all, spend half a century as a planet with the damned things pointed at each other in the scariest stalemate in human history. The governments of the world kinda noticed that.
– J...
Dec 4 at 17:13
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@PeterTaylor Can you cite a country with such a legal system? (Everything forbidden)? This sounds completely impractical... a law to start walking with the left or right foot first, a law to allow you to use toothpaste, a law to allow you to breathe more than ten times per minute... in short, I don't think I believe you.
– J...
Dec 6 at 14:48
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I would suggest adding a country tag - asking about the laws in nearly 200 jurisdictions around the world is quite broad.
– CramerTV
Dec 4 at 3:19
I would suggest adding a country tag - asking about the laws in nearly 200 jurisdictions around the world is quite broad.
– CramerTV
Dec 4 at 3:19
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Apart from anything else possessing any explosives requires a permit or license in most places (at least in principle). Hard to imagine a nuke not being covered by something like that. Anti terrorist legislation tends to have a lot of "catch all" type language in it as well. Even your basic "possession of an offensive weapon" type charge in criminal law could cover this. Are you asking if a law explicitly mentioning nuclear weapons exists ?
– StephenG
Dec 4 at 7:18
Apart from anything else possessing any explosives requires a permit or license in most places (at least in principle). Hard to imagine a nuke not being covered by something like that. Anti terrorist legislation tends to have a lot of "catch all" type language in it as well. Even your basic "possession of an offensive weapon" type charge in criminal law could cover this. Are you asking if a law explicitly mentioning nuclear weapons exists ?
– StephenG
Dec 4 at 7:18
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For the US, a somewhat related case is David Hahn, aka the Radioactive Boy Scout
– BruceWayne
Dec 4 at 15:23
For the US, a somewhat related case is David Hahn, aka the Radioactive Boy Scout
– BruceWayne
Dec 4 at 15:23
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I would be more curious to know if there are any countries where it is not explicitly illegal to own a private nuclear weapon. It's not like thermonuclear bombs are an odd rarity that might have slipped the legislative eye - (nearly?) every country in the world, I'm sure, has very explicit restrictions on the possession and transfer of any type of nuclear materials, especially weapons grade materials. We did, after all, spend half a century as a planet with the damned things pointed at each other in the scariest stalemate in human history. The governments of the world kinda noticed that.
– J...
Dec 4 at 17:13
I would be more curious to know if there are any countries where it is not explicitly illegal to own a private nuclear weapon. It's not like thermonuclear bombs are an odd rarity that might have slipped the legislative eye - (nearly?) every country in the world, I'm sure, has very explicit restrictions on the possession and transfer of any type of nuclear materials, especially weapons grade materials. We did, after all, spend half a century as a planet with the damned things pointed at each other in the scariest stalemate in human history. The governments of the world kinda noticed that.
– J...
Dec 4 at 17:13
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@PeterTaylor Can you cite a country with such a legal system? (Everything forbidden)? This sounds completely impractical... a law to start walking with the left or right foot first, a law to allow you to use toothpaste, a law to allow you to breathe more than ten times per minute... in short, I don't think I believe you.
– J...
Dec 6 at 14:48
@PeterTaylor Can you cite a country with such a legal system? (Everything forbidden)? This sounds completely impractical... a law to start walking with the left or right foot first, a law to allow you to use toothpaste, a law to allow you to breathe more than ten times per minute... in short, I don't think I believe you.
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In Germany, nuclear weapons are considered weapons of war, which are heavily regulated. In particular, under § 17 KrWaffKontrG, it is prohibited to develop or produce nuclear weapons or trade in them or acquire them from or leave them to another person or import or export them or transport them through the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way take them into or out of the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way exercise the actual control over them (my translation). Exceptions apply only to nuclear weapons controlled by the governments of NATO members, not to individuals.
If you happen to come into the possession of a nuclear weapon without breaking the law yourself (e.g. if you inherit it from someone who illegally built it), it can and certainly will be confiscated under § 24 KrWaffKontrG.
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And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
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And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
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@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
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@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
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@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
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In the US there are a couple of laws preventing a private citizen from owning a nuclear weapon:
Possession of any radiological weapon is prohibited by 18 U.S. Code § 832 - Participation in nuclear and weapons of mass destruction threats to the United States (specifically paragraph (c))
(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon, or threatens to use or uses a radiological weapon against any person within the United States, or a national of the United States while such national is outside of the United States or against any property that is owned, leased, funded, or used by the United States, whether that property is within or outside of the United States, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
Even possession of nuclear material is prohibited without a license.
18 U.S. Code § 831 - Prohibited transactions involving nuclear materials It's a long convoluted law with references so trying to paste a relevant section is problematic.
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Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
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@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
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@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
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In the UK this would be covered by both the generic Offensive Weapons Act and more specific prohibitions on explosives, but I'd like to point out that there is a specific ban on using them:
Any person who knowingly causes a nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/7/section/1
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It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
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@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
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42 U.S. Code § 2122(a):
It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this
title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to
knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce,
transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or
possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.
Following the trail through Title 42: As far as the U.S. government is concerned, only its Atomic Energy Commission and Department of Defense, or other government entities authorized by those agencies, can deal in nuclear weapons or their precursors. There is no provision in U.S. law for either DoE or DoD to permit a private person or entity to own "special nuclear materials" (i.e., those with military applications).
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Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
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Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
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@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
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New Zealand specifically has the "New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone, Disarmament, and Arms Control Act 1987", which states in section 5:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, shall, within the New Zealand Nuclear Free
Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to
manufacture, acquire, possess, or have control over any nuclear
explosive device.
And interestingly further states that if you are an agent of the crown, you can't legally obtain or develop a nuclear weapon overseas either:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, and who is a servant or agent of the Crown,
shall, beyond the New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to manufacture, acquire, possess,
or have control over any nuclear explosive device.
Which as I understand it means that not only is it illegal for an individual to obtain or develop a nuclear weapon, it is also illegal for the government to obtain one from elsewhere. There's some interesting history behind this act, since it came about due to opposition to nuclear testing in the pacific and the refusal of the US to confirm or deny that ships berthing in New Zealand ports had nuclear weapons or nuclear propulsion sources, and it led to the US suspending defence treaty obligations to NZ.
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In France, the control of nuclear materials and facilities is governed by the part I, book III, title III, chapter III of the Defence Code. The article L1333-13-4 in particular deals with nuclear weapons (translation and emphasised text is mine):
II.-The offenses defined in sections I.1 and I.2 of the article L. 1333-9 (undue appropriation of nuclear material) and in the articles L. 1333-11 (possess, transfer, use or transport, outside the territory of the Republic, of nuclear material without authorization), L. 1333-12 (obstruction of control of nuclear material) and L. 1333-13-2 (provoking, encouraging or inciting anyone to commit the aforementioned offenses) are punishable by twenty years of rigorous imprisonment and a fine of € 7.5 million when they are in connection with an individual or collective undertaking with the purpose of enabling anyone to acquire a nuclear weapon.
III.-Constitutes a nuclear weapon, for the pursuit of the offenses mentioned in this article, any explosive device whose energy originates from the fission of nuclei of atoms.
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In Switzerland, nuclear weapons count as War Material and in the War Material Act in Chapter 1 Art. 7.1 it is specified that
It is prohibited:
a.
to develop, produce, broker, acquire, transfer to anyone, import, export, carry in transit, or store nuclear, biological or chemical
weapons (NBC weapons) or to possess them in any other way; b.
to incite anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above; c.
to assist anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above.
2 The foregoing prohibition does not apply to acts that are intended:
a.
to enable the destruction of NBC weapons by the agencies responsible therefor; or b.
to provide protection against the effects of NBC weapons or to combat such effects.
3 The prohibition also applies to acts carried out abroad,
irrespective of the law at the place of commission, if:
a.
the acts violate international law agreements to which Switzerland is a party; and b.
the perpetrator is Swiss or is domiciled in Switzerland.
Therefore it is not possible to possess any nuclear weapons as a private person. Only the responsible agency can possess nuclear weapons in Switzerland and only when they intend to destroy it.
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In the UK there is a law specifically forbidding possession of nuclear weapons, in addition to the one about using them mentioned elsewhere, the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001:
A person who—
(a)knowingly causes a nuclear weapon explosion;
(b)develops or produces, or participates in the development or production of, a nuclear weapon;
(c)has a nuclear weapon in his possession;
(d)participates in the transfer of a nuclear weapon; or
(e)engages in military preparations, or in preparations of a military nature, intending to use, or threaten to use, a nuclear weapon,
is guilty of an offence.
The next two sections say that you are allowed to have a nuclear weapon in your possession if the government gives you permission, and you can defend yourself from prosecution for possessing a nuclear weapon if you can show that you didn't know it was a nuclear weapon.
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In general there are very tight regulations on the possession and handling of radioactive materials and explosives. I think that in practical terms, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to legally acquire and possess even the raw materials out of which a nuclear bomb might be constructed. You'd need a potentially critical mass of fissionable material, and enough explosive to compress it into an actual critical mass. I can't imagine that storage of the explosive as an actual bomb (even without a nuclear core or a detonator) would be legal for any entity other than a nation's armed forces or a licensed arms manufacturer.
Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) (unlike Plutonium) is not actually highly radioactive provided you don't let it get close to a critical mass. Unless it is explicitly added to general criteria based on the radioactive emissions from a material, it's possible that it might find a loophole in rules controlling radioactive substances. One can buy kilograms of depleted Uranium (DU). DU is only about four times less radioactive than HEU, but non-fissionable. There are materials safety regulations regarding Uranium chemical toxicity as well -- probably modest, a lump of DU is not significantly more dangerous than a lump of Lead. I'd happily handle either without gloves, but I'd want to wash my hands afterwards.
The specialist explosives, on the other hand ... mere TNT is tightly regulated, and you'd probably need a much higher-energy explosive than that. Actual nukes use TATB. Any attempt to acquire or ship TATB would almost certainly result in a visit from the security services rather than any actual delivery of material, because AFAIK it has no other uses.
In short, they'd surely get you on the details if they couldn't get you on the big picture. Just like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
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You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
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A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
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In Germany, nuclear weapons are considered weapons of war, which are heavily regulated. In particular, under § 17 KrWaffKontrG, it is prohibited to develop or produce nuclear weapons or trade in them or acquire them from or leave them to another person or import or export them or transport them through the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way take them into or out of the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way exercise the actual control over them (my translation). Exceptions apply only to nuclear weapons controlled by the governments of NATO members, not to individuals.
If you happen to come into the possession of a nuclear weapon without breaking the law yourself (e.g. if you inherit it from someone who illegally built it), it can and certainly will be confiscated under § 24 KrWaffKontrG.
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And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
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And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
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@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
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@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
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@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
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In Germany, nuclear weapons are considered weapons of war, which are heavily regulated. In particular, under § 17 KrWaffKontrG, it is prohibited to develop or produce nuclear weapons or trade in them or acquire them from or leave them to another person or import or export them or transport them through the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way take them into or out of the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way exercise the actual control over them (my translation). Exceptions apply only to nuclear weapons controlled by the governments of NATO members, not to individuals.
If you happen to come into the possession of a nuclear weapon without breaking the law yourself (e.g. if you inherit it from someone who illegally built it), it can and certainly will be confiscated under § 24 KrWaffKontrG.
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And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
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And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
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@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
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@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
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@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
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In Germany, nuclear weapons are considered weapons of war, which are heavily regulated. In particular, under § 17 KrWaffKontrG, it is prohibited to develop or produce nuclear weapons or trade in them or acquire them from or leave them to another person or import or export them or transport them through the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way take them into or out of the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way exercise the actual control over them (my translation). Exceptions apply only to nuclear weapons controlled by the governments of NATO members, not to individuals.
If you happen to come into the possession of a nuclear weapon without breaking the law yourself (e.g. if you inherit it from someone who illegally built it), it can and certainly will be confiscated under § 24 KrWaffKontrG.
In Germany, nuclear weapons are considered weapons of war, which are heavily regulated. In particular, under § 17 KrWaffKontrG, it is prohibited to develop or produce nuclear weapons or trade in them or acquire them from or leave them to another person or import or export them or transport them through the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way take them into or out of the territory of the Federal Republic or in any other way exercise the actual control over them (my translation). Exceptions apply only to nuclear weapons controlled by the governments of NATO members, not to individuals.
If you happen to come into the possession of a nuclear weapon without breaking the law yourself (e.g. if you inherit it from someone who illegally built it), it can and certainly will be confiscated under § 24 KrWaffKontrG.
edited Dec 4 at 22:15
answered Dec 4 at 9:28
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And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
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And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
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@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
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@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
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@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
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And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
2
And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
2
@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
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@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
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@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
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And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
And then of course Germany has a separate law against exploding them: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Martin Schröder
Dec 4 at 10:09
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2
And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
And, should the KrWaffKontrG get lost at some point, WaffG would still prohibit handling them. AtomG has further hurdles.
– cbeleites
Dec 6 at 17:09
2
2
@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
@MartinSchröder If I understand it correctly, it is only about the weapons which were committed a criminal offense. What if you don't explode them, only you are using it to decorate your living room? Although maybe owning the weapon (an importing/exporting into the BRD) might be also a criminal offense, not only exploding it.
– Gray Sheep
Dec 7 at 1:46
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@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
@Gray Sheep: Did you read my answer at all?
– chirlu
Dec 7 at 7:15
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1
@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
@MartinSchröder And even more surprising: IIRC, for some time the annual criminal statistics showed a "1" as number of offences against §12 (1) StGB.It turned out to be a glitch of the statistics which noone noticed because the low count did not cause raise eyebrows to the unsuspecting reaser not aware of what hides behind that section of law ...
– Hagen von Eitzen
Dec 9 at 5:46
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In the US there are a couple of laws preventing a private citizen from owning a nuclear weapon:
Possession of any radiological weapon is prohibited by 18 U.S. Code § 832 - Participation in nuclear and weapons of mass destruction threats to the United States (specifically paragraph (c))
(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon, or threatens to use or uses a radiological weapon against any person within the United States, or a national of the United States while such national is outside of the United States or against any property that is owned, leased, funded, or used by the United States, whether that property is within or outside of the United States, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
Even possession of nuclear material is prohibited without a license.
18 U.S. Code § 831 - Prohibited transactions involving nuclear materials It's a long convoluted law with references so trying to paste a relevant section is problematic.
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Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
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@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
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@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
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In the US there are a couple of laws preventing a private citizen from owning a nuclear weapon:
Possession of any radiological weapon is prohibited by 18 U.S. Code § 832 - Participation in nuclear and weapons of mass destruction threats to the United States (specifically paragraph (c))
(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon, or threatens to use or uses a radiological weapon against any person within the United States, or a national of the United States while such national is outside of the United States or against any property that is owned, leased, funded, or used by the United States, whether that property is within or outside of the United States, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
Even possession of nuclear material is prohibited without a license.
18 U.S. Code § 831 - Prohibited transactions involving nuclear materials It's a long convoluted law with references so trying to paste a relevant section is problematic.
9
Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
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@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
1
@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
|
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up vote
37
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In the US there are a couple of laws preventing a private citizen from owning a nuclear weapon:
Possession of any radiological weapon is prohibited by 18 U.S. Code § 832 - Participation in nuclear and weapons of mass destruction threats to the United States (specifically paragraph (c))
(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon, or threatens to use or uses a radiological weapon against any person within the United States, or a national of the United States while such national is outside of the United States or against any property that is owned, leased, funded, or used by the United States, whether that property is within or outside of the United States, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
Even possession of nuclear material is prohibited without a license.
18 U.S. Code § 831 - Prohibited transactions involving nuclear materials It's a long convoluted law with references so trying to paste a relevant section is problematic.
In the US there are a couple of laws preventing a private citizen from owning a nuclear weapon:
Possession of any radiological weapon is prohibited by 18 U.S. Code § 832 - Participation in nuclear and weapons of mass destruction threats to the United States (specifically paragraph (c))
(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon, or threatens to use or uses a radiological weapon against any person within the United States, or a national of the United States while such national is outside of the United States or against any property that is owned, leased, funded, or used by the United States, whether that property is within or outside of the United States, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
Even possession of nuclear material is prohibited without a license.
18 U.S. Code § 831 - Prohibited transactions involving nuclear materials It's a long convoluted law with references so trying to paste a relevant section is problematic.
answered Dec 4 at 3:31
CramerTV
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Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
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@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
1
@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
|
show 2 more comments
9
Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
22
@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
1
@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
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9
Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
Hmmm... The UK has nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow. Moscow has got a MacDonald's. MacDonald's is a US concern... So, I guess the US can imprison Theresa May right now!
– Oscar Bravo
Dec 4 at 13:03
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22
@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
@oscarbravo "... without lawful authority ... " I bet that the head of state of one's major ally and partner in a self-defense transnational coalition does have lawful authority.
– Mindwin
Dec 4 at 14:45
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
Moscow also has a US embassy (which is technically US soil). I don't think that changes the calculus much.
– T.E.D.
Dec 5 at 20:39
1
1
@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@T.E.D., that is a common misconception. Embassies remain the territory of the host nation. However, the embassy would be owned or leased, and separately used by, the United States (unlike McDonald's branches - that's a private company, not a branch of government).
– Peter Taylor
Dec 6 at 11:16
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
@OscarBravo The McDonald's in Moscow is owned by a Russian corporation. While it's ultimately owned by an American corporation, it's definitely not an American national.
– Ross Ridge
Dec 7 at 18:12
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In the UK this would be covered by both the generic Offensive Weapons Act and more specific prohibitions on explosives, but I'd like to point out that there is a specific ban on using them:
Any person who knowingly causes a nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/7/section/1
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It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
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@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
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In the UK this would be covered by both the generic Offensive Weapons Act and more specific prohibitions on explosives, but I'd like to point out that there is a specific ban on using them:
Any person who knowingly causes a nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/7/section/1
4
It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
1
@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
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In the UK this would be covered by both the generic Offensive Weapons Act and more specific prohibitions on explosives, but I'd like to point out that there is a specific ban on using them:
Any person who knowingly causes a nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/7/section/1
In the UK this would be covered by both the generic Offensive Weapons Act and more specific prohibitions on explosives, but I'd like to point out that there is a specific ban on using them:
Any person who knowingly causes a nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/7/section/1
answered Dec 4 at 13:15
pjc50
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It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
1
@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
add a comment |
4
It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
1
@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
4
4
It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
It's also illegal to produce them, possess them, trade them and to prepare/threaten to use them. (Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001). Truly the Nanny state gone mad. I'm not even allowed to produce nuclear weapons when I'm on holiday.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:24
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
I'm not actually sure the "Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act 1998" is in force yet, because it doesn't start until further secondary legislation says it does (yeah, law is weird). But your quote matches the 2001 law, which is in force and doesn't appear to have been amended re nuclear weapons yet.
– Nathan Cooper
Dec 4 at 16:27
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
It has been argued that Prince Charles is exempt from this ban: independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/…
– Geoffrey Brent
Dec 6 at 3:13
1
1
@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
@GeoffreyBrent So, then Nathan just needs to befriend Prince Charles in order to legally detonate nuclear weapons on his holiday.
– reirab
Dec 6 at 17:40
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42 U.S. Code § 2122(a):
It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this
title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to
knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce,
transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or
possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.
Following the trail through Title 42: As far as the U.S. government is concerned, only its Atomic Energy Commission and Department of Defense, or other government entities authorized by those agencies, can deal in nuclear weapons or their precursors. There is no provision in U.S. law for either DoE or DoD to permit a private person or entity to own "special nuclear materials" (i.e., those with military applications).
1
Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
1
Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
1
@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
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42 U.S. Code § 2122(a):
It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this
title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to
knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce,
transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or
possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.
Following the trail through Title 42: As far as the U.S. government is concerned, only its Atomic Energy Commission and Department of Defense, or other government entities authorized by those agencies, can deal in nuclear weapons or their precursors. There is no provision in U.S. law for either DoE or DoD to permit a private person or entity to own "special nuclear materials" (i.e., those with military applications).
1
Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
1
Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
1
@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
add a comment |
up vote
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up vote
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42 U.S. Code § 2122(a):
It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this
title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to
knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce,
transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or
possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.
Following the trail through Title 42: As far as the U.S. government is concerned, only its Atomic Energy Commission and Department of Defense, or other government entities authorized by those agencies, can deal in nuclear weapons or their precursors. There is no provision in U.S. law for either DoE or DoD to permit a private person or entity to own "special nuclear materials" (i.e., those with military applications).
42 U.S. Code § 2122(a):
It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this
title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to
knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce,
transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or
possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.
Following the trail through Title 42: As far as the U.S. government is concerned, only its Atomic Energy Commission and Department of Defense, or other government entities authorized by those agencies, can deal in nuclear weapons or their precursors. There is no provision in U.S. law for either DoE or DoD to permit a private person or entity to own "special nuclear materials" (i.e., those with military applications).
answered Dec 4 at 13:03
feetwet♦
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14.4k93992
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Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
1
Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
1
@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
add a comment |
1
Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
1
Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
1
@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
1
1
Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
Was this actually tested in SCOTUS for constitutionality?
– DVK
Dec 4 at 17:28
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
@DVK I doubt it, but I don't think there's any chance that it would fall to a second amendment challenge. There are other banned weapons that are more likely to end up in the Supreme Court, though, such as machine guns and hand grenades.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:10
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Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
Unlike toxic waste, where the approach is to point fingers in an effort to impose liability on potentially responsible parties, in cases of nuclear materials including nuclear waste, all nuclear materials are property of the United States government and they take the initiative to gather it up at their own expense to prevent proliferation.
– ohwilleke
Dec 5 at 2:54
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@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
@DVK good luck. Just getting a ticket to court will cost you one actual nuclear weapon and your freedom for awhile. Supreme Court doesn't take hypothetical cases.
– Harper
Dec 5 at 18:45
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New Zealand specifically has the "New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone, Disarmament, and Arms Control Act 1987", which states in section 5:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, shall, within the New Zealand Nuclear Free
Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to
manufacture, acquire, possess, or have control over any nuclear
explosive device.
And interestingly further states that if you are an agent of the crown, you can't legally obtain or develop a nuclear weapon overseas either:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, and who is a servant or agent of the Crown,
shall, beyond the New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to manufacture, acquire, possess,
or have control over any nuclear explosive device.
Which as I understand it means that not only is it illegal for an individual to obtain or develop a nuclear weapon, it is also illegal for the government to obtain one from elsewhere. There's some interesting history behind this act, since it came about due to opposition to nuclear testing in the pacific and the refusal of the US to confirm or deny that ships berthing in New Zealand ports had nuclear weapons or nuclear propulsion sources, and it led to the US suspending defence treaty obligations to NZ.
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New Zealand specifically has the "New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone, Disarmament, and Arms Control Act 1987", which states in section 5:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, shall, within the New Zealand Nuclear Free
Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to
manufacture, acquire, possess, or have control over any nuclear
explosive device.
And interestingly further states that if you are an agent of the crown, you can't legally obtain or develop a nuclear weapon overseas either:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, and who is a servant or agent of the Crown,
shall, beyond the New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to manufacture, acquire, possess,
or have control over any nuclear explosive device.
Which as I understand it means that not only is it illegal for an individual to obtain or develop a nuclear weapon, it is also illegal for the government to obtain one from elsewhere. There's some interesting history behind this act, since it came about due to opposition to nuclear testing in the pacific and the refusal of the US to confirm or deny that ships berthing in New Zealand ports had nuclear weapons or nuclear propulsion sources, and it led to the US suspending defence treaty obligations to NZ.
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New Zealand specifically has the "New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone, Disarmament, and Arms Control Act 1987", which states in section 5:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, shall, within the New Zealand Nuclear Free
Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to
manufacture, acquire, possess, or have control over any nuclear
explosive device.
And interestingly further states that if you are an agent of the crown, you can't legally obtain or develop a nuclear weapon overseas either:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, and who is a servant or agent of the Crown,
shall, beyond the New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to manufacture, acquire, possess,
or have control over any nuclear explosive device.
Which as I understand it means that not only is it illegal for an individual to obtain or develop a nuclear weapon, it is also illegal for the government to obtain one from elsewhere. There's some interesting history behind this act, since it came about due to opposition to nuclear testing in the pacific and the refusal of the US to confirm or deny that ships berthing in New Zealand ports had nuclear weapons or nuclear propulsion sources, and it led to the US suspending defence treaty obligations to NZ.
New Zealand specifically has the "New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone, Disarmament, and Arms Control Act 1987", which states in section 5:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, shall, within the New Zealand Nuclear Free
Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to
manufacture, acquire, possess, or have control over any nuclear
explosive device.
And interestingly further states that if you are an agent of the crown, you can't legally obtain or develop a nuclear weapon overseas either:
No person, who is a New Zealand citizen or a person ordinarily
resident in New Zealand, and who is a servant or agent of the Crown,
shall, beyond the New Zealand Nuclear Free Zone,—
- manufacture, acquire, or possess, or have control over, any nuclear
explosive device; or
- aid, abet, or procure any person to manufacture, acquire, possess,
or have control over any nuclear explosive device.
Which as I understand it means that not only is it illegal for an individual to obtain or develop a nuclear weapon, it is also illegal for the government to obtain one from elsewhere. There's some interesting history behind this act, since it came about due to opposition to nuclear testing in the pacific and the refusal of the US to confirm or deny that ships berthing in New Zealand ports had nuclear weapons or nuclear propulsion sources, and it led to the US suspending defence treaty obligations to NZ.
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In France, the control of nuclear materials and facilities is governed by the part I, book III, title III, chapter III of the Defence Code. The article L1333-13-4 in particular deals with nuclear weapons (translation and emphasised text is mine):
II.-The offenses defined in sections I.1 and I.2 of the article L. 1333-9 (undue appropriation of nuclear material) and in the articles L. 1333-11 (possess, transfer, use or transport, outside the territory of the Republic, of nuclear material without authorization), L. 1333-12 (obstruction of control of nuclear material) and L. 1333-13-2 (provoking, encouraging or inciting anyone to commit the aforementioned offenses) are punishable by twenty years of rigorous imprisonment and a fine of € 7.5 million when they are in connection with an individual or collective undertaking with the purpose of enabling anyone to acquire a nuclear weapon.
III.-Constitutes a nuclear weapon, for the pursuit of the offenses mentioned in this article, any explosive device whose energy originates from the fission of nuclei of atoms.
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In France, the control of nuclear materials and facilities is governed by the part I, book III, title III, chapter III of the Defence Code. The article L1333-13-4 in particular deals with nuclear weapons (translation and emphasised text is mine):
II.-The offenses defined in sections I.1 and I.2 of the article L. 1333-9 (undue appropriation of nuclear material) and in the articles L. 1333-11 (possess, transfer, use or transport, outside the territory of the Republic, of nuclear material without authorization), L. 1333-12 (obstruction of control of nuclear material) and L. 1333-13-2 (provoking, encouraging or inciting anyone to commit the aforementioned offenses) are punishable by twenty years of rigorous imprisonment and a fine of € 7.5 million when they are in connection with an individual or collective undertaking with the purpose of enabling anyone to acquire a nuclear weapon.
III.-Constitutes a nuclear weapon, for the pursuit of the offenses mentioned in this article, any explosive device whose energy originates from the fission of nuclei of atoms.
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In France, the control of nuclear materials and facilities is governed by the part I, book III, title III, chapter III of the Defence Code. The article L1333-13-4 in particular deals with nuclear weapons (translation and emphasised text is mine):
II.-The offenses defined in sections I.1 and I.2 of the article L. 1333-9 (undue appropriation of nuclear material) and in the articles L. 1333-11 (possess, transfer, use or transport, outside the territory of the Republic, of nuclear material without authorization), L. 1333-12 (obstruction of control of nuclear material) and L. 1333-13-2 (provoking, encouraging or inciting anyone to commit the aforementioned offenses) are punishable by twenty years of rigorous imprisonment and a fine of € 7.5 million when they are in connection with an individual or collective undertaking with the purpose of enabling anyone to acquire a nuclear weapon.
III.-Constitutes a nuclear weapon, for the pursuit of the offenses mentioned in this article, any explosive device whose energy originates from the fission of nuclei of atoms.
In France, the control of nuclear materials and facilities is governed by the part I, book III, title III, chapter III of the Defence Code. The article L1333-13-4 in particular deals with nuclear weapons (translation and emphasised text is mine):
II.-The offenses defined in sections I.1 and I.2 of the article L. 1333-9 (undue appropriation of nuclear material) and in the articles L. 1333-11 (possess, transfer, use or transport, outside the territory of the Republic, of nuclear material without authorization), L. 1333-12 (obstruction of control of nuclear material) and L. 1333-13-2 (provoking, encouraging or inciting anyone to commit the aforementioned offenses) are punishable by twenty years of rigorous imprisonment and a fine of € 7.5 million when they are in connection with an individual or collective undertaking with the purpose of enabling anyone to acquire a nuclear weapon.
III.-Constitutes a nuclear weapon, for the pursuit of the offenses mentioned in this article, any explosive device whose energy originates from the fission of nuclei of atoms.
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In Switzerland, nuclear weapons count as War Material and in the War Material Act in Chapter 1 Art. 7.1 it is specified that
It is prohibited:
a.
to develop, produce, broker, acquire, transfer to anyone, import, export, carry in transit, or store nuclear, biological or chemical
weapons (NBC weapons) or to possess them in any other way; b.
to incite anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above; c.
to assist anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above.
2 The foregoing prohibition does not apply to acts that are intended:
a.
to enable the destruction of NBC weapons by the agencies responsible therefor; or b.
to provide protection against the effects of NBC weapons or to combat such effects.
3 The prohibition also applies to acts carried out abroad,
irrespective of the law at the place of commission, if:
a.
the acts violate international law agreements to which Switzerland is a party; and b.
the perpetrator is Swiss or is domiciled in Switzerland.
Therefore it is not possible to possess any nuclear weapons as a private person. Only the responsible agency can possess nuclear weapons in Switzerland and only when they intend to destroy it.
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In Switzerland, nuclear weapons count as War Material and in the War Material Act in Chapter 1 Art. 7.1 it is specified that
It is prohibited:
a.
to develop, produce, broker, acquire, transfer to anyone, import, export, carry in transit, or store nuclear, biological or chemical
weapons (NBC weapons) or to possess them in any other way; b.
to incite anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above; c.
to assist anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above.
2 The foregoing prohibition does not apply to acts that are intended:
a.
to enable the destruction of NBC weapons by the agencies responsible therefor; or b.
to provide protection against the effects of NBC weapons or to combat such effects.
3 The prohibition also applies to acts carried out abroad,
irrespective of the law at the place of commission, if:
a.
the acts violate international law agreements to which Switzerland is a party; and b.
the perpetrator is Swiss or is domiciled in Switzerland.
Therefore it is not possible to possess any nuclear weapons as a private person. Only the responsible agency can possess nuclear weapons in Switzerland and only when they intend to destroy it.
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In Switzerland, nuclear weapons count as War Material and in the War Material Act in Chapter 1 Art. 7.1 it is specified that
It is prohibited:
a.
to develop, produce, broker, acquire, transfer to anyone, import, export, carry in transit, or store nuclear, biological or chemical
weapons (NBC weapons) or to possess them in any other way; b.
to incite anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above; c.
to assist anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above.
2 The foregoing prohibition does not apply to acts that are intended:
a.
to enable the destruction of NBC weapons by the agencies responsible therefor; or b.
to provide protection against the effects of NBC weapons or to combat such effects.
3 The prohibition also applies to acts carried out abroad,
irrespective of the law at the place of commission, if:
a.
the acts violate international law agreements to which Switzerland is a party; and b.
the perpetrator is Swiss or is domiciled in Switzerland.
Therefore it is not possible to possess any nuclear weapons as a private person. Only the responsible agency can possess nuclear weapons in Switzerland and only when they intend to destroy it.
In Switzerland, nuclear weapons count as War Material and in the War Material Act in Chapter 1 Art. 7.1 it is specified that
It is prohibited:
a.
to develop, produce, broker, acquire, transfer to anyone, import, export, carry in transit, or store nuclear, biological or chemical
weapons (NBC weapons) or to possess them in any other way; b.
to incite anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above; c.
to assist anyone to carry out an act mentioned in letter a above.
2 The foregoing prohibition does not apply to acts that are intended:
a.
to enable the destruction of NBC weapons by the agencies responsible therefor; or b.
to provide protection against the effects of NBC weapons or to combat such effects.
3 The prohibition also applies to acts carried out abroad,
irrespective of the law at the place of commission, if:
a.
the acts violate international law agreements to which Switzerland is a party; and b.
the perpetrator is Swiss or is domiciled in Switzerland.
Therefore it is not possible to possess any nuclear weapons as a private person. Only the responsible agency can possess nuclear weapons in Switzerland and only when they intend to destroy it.
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In the UK there is a law specifically forbidding possession of nuclear weapons, in addition to the one about using them mentioned elsewhere, the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001:
A person who—
(a)knowingly causes a nuclear weapon explosion;
(b)develops or produces, or participates in the development or production of, a nuclear weapon;
(c)has a nuclear weapon in his possession;
(d)participates in the transfer of a nuclear weapon; or
(e)engages in military preparations, or in preparations of a military nature, intending to use, or threaten to use, a nuclear weapon,
is guilty of an offence.
The next two sections say that you are allowed to have a nuclear weapon in your possession if the government gives you permission, and you can defend yourself from prosecution for possessing a nuclear weapon if you can show that you didn't know it was a nuclear weapon.
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In the UK there is a law specifically forbidding possession of nuclear weapons, in addition to the one about using them mentioned elsewhere, the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001:
A person who—
(a)knowingly causes a nuclear weapon explosion;
(b)develops or produces, or participates in the development or production of, a nuclear weapon;
(c)has a nuclear weapon in his possession;
(d)participates in the transfer of a nuclear weapon; or
(e)engages in military preparations, or in preparations of a military nature, intending to use, or threaten to use, a nuclear weapon,
is guilty of an offence.
The next two sections say that you are allowed to have a nuclear weapon in your possession if the government gives you permission, and you can defend yourself from prosecution for possessing a nuclear weapon if you can show that you didn't know it was a nuclear weapon.
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In the UK there is a law specifically forbidding possession of nuclear weapons, in addition to the one about using them mentioned elsewhere, the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001:
A person who—
(a)knowingly causes a nuclear weapon explosion;
(b)develops or produces, or participates in the development or production of, a nuclear weapon;
(c)has a nuclear weapon in his possession;
(d)participates in the transfer of a nuclear weapon; or
(e)engages in military preparations, or in preparations of a military nature, intending to use, or threaten to use, a nuclear weapon,
is guilty of an offence.
The next two sections say that you are allowed to have a nuclear weapon in your possession if the government gives you permission, and you can defend yourself from prosecution for possessing a nuclear weapon if you can show that you didn't know it was a nuclear weapon.
In the UK there is a law specifically forbidding possession of nuclear weapons, in addition to the one about using them mentioned elsewhere, the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001:
A person who—
(a)knowingly causes a nuclear weapon explosion;
(b)develops or produces, or participates in the development or production of, a nuclear weapon;
(c)has a nuclear weapon in his possession;
(d)participates in the transfer of a nuclear weapon; or
(e)engages in military preparations, or in preparations of a military nature, intending to use, or threaten to use, a nuclear weapon,
is guilty of an offence.
The next two sections say that you are allowed to have a nuclear weapon in your possession if the government gives you permission, and you can defend yourself from prosecution for possessing a nuclear weapon if you can show that you didn't know it was a nuclear weapon.
answered Dec 8 at 19:56
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In general there are very tight regulations on the possession and handling of radioactive materials and explosives. I think that in practical terms, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to legally acquire and possess even the raw materials out of which a nuclear bomb might be constructed. You'd need a potentially critical mass of fissionable material, and enough explosive to compress it into an actual critical mass. I can't imagine that storage of the explosive as an actual bomb (even without a nuclear core or a detonator) would be legal for any entity other than a nation's armed forces or a licensed arms manufacturer.
Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) (unlike Plutonium) is not actually highly radioactive provided you don't let it get close to a critical mass. Unless it is explicitly added to general criteria based on the radioactive emissions from a material, it's possible that it might find a loophole in rules controlling radioactive substances. One can buy kilograms of depleted Uranium (DU). DU is only about four times less radioactive than HEU, but non-fissionable. There are materials safety regulations regarding Uranium chemical toxicity as well -- probably modest, a lump of DU is not significantly more dangerous than a lump of Lead. I'd happily handle either without gloves, but I'd want to wash my hands afterwards.
The specialist explosives, on the other hand ... mere TNT is tightly regulated, and you'd probably need a much higher-energy explosive than that. Actual nukes use TATB. Any attempt to acquire or ship TATB would almost certainly result in a visit from the security services rather than any actual delivery of material, because AFAIK it has no other uses.
In short, they'd surely get you on the details if they couldn't get you on the big picture. Just like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
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You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
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A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
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In general there are very tight regulations on the possession and handling of radioactive materials and explosives. I think that in practical terms, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to legally acquire and possess even the raw materials out of which a nuclear bomb might be constructed. You'd need a potentially critical mass of fissionable material, and enough explosive to compress it into an actual critical mass. I can't imagine that storage of the explosive as an actual bomb (even without a nuclear core or a detonator) would be legal for any entity other than a nation's armed forces or a licensed arms manufacturer.
Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) (unlike Plutonium) is not actually highly radioactive provided you don't let it get close to a critical mass. Unless it is explicitly added to general criteria based on the radioactive emissions from a material, it's possible that it might find a loophole in rules controlling radioactive substances. One can buy kilograms of depleted Uranium (DU). DU is only about four times less radioactive than HEU, but non-fissionable. There are materials safety regulations regarding Uranium chemical toxicity as well -- probably modest, a lump of DU is not significantly more dangerous than a lump of Lead. I'd happily handle either without gloves, but I'd want to wash my hands afterwards.
The specialist explosives, on the other hand ... mere TNT is tightly regulated, and you'd probably need a much higher-energy explosive than that. Actual nukes use TATB. Any attempt to acquire or ship TATB would almost certainly result in a visit from the security services rather than any actual delivery of material, because AFAIK it has no other uses.
In short, they'd surely get you on the details if they couldn't get you on the big picture. Just like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
2
You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
1
A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
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In general there are very tight regulations on the possession and handling of radioactive materials and explosives. I think that in practical terms, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to legally acquire and possess even the raw materials out of which a nuclear bomb might be constructed. You'd need a potentially critical mass of fissionable material, and enough explosive to compress it into an actual critical mass. I can't imagine that storage of the explosive as an actual bomb (even without a nuclear core or a detonator) would be legal for any entity other than a nation's armed forces or a licensed arms manufacturer.
Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) (unlike Plutonium) is not actually highly radioactive provided you don't let it get close to a critical mass. Unless it is explicitly added to general criteria based on the radioactive emissions from a material, it's possible that it might find a loophole in rules controlling radioactive substances. One can buy kilograms of depleted Uranium (DU). DU is only about four times less radioactive than HEU, but non-fissionable. There are materials safety regulations regarding Uranium chemical toxicity as well -- probably modest, a lump of DU is not significantly more dangerous than a lump of Lead. I'd happily handle either without gloves, but I'd want to wash my hands afterwards.
The specialist explosives, on the other hand ... mere TNT is tightly regulated, and you'd probably need a much higher-energy explosive than that. Actual nukes use TATB. Any attempt to acquire or ship TATB would almost certainly result in a visit from the security services rather than any actual delivery of material, because AFAIK it has no other uses.
In short, they'd surely get you on the details if they couldn't get you on the big picture. Just like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
In general there are very tight regulations on the possession and handling of radioactive materials and explosives. I think that in practical terms, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to legally acquire and possess even the raw materials out of which a nuclear bomb might be constructed. You'd need a potentially critical mass of fissionable material, and enough explosive to compress it into an actual critical mass. I can't imagine that storage of the explosive as an actual bomb (even without a nuclear core or a detonator) would be legal for any entity other than a nation's armed forces or a licensed arms manufacturer.
Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) (unlike Plutonium) is not actually highly radioactive provided you don't let it get close to a critical mass. Unless it is explicitly added to general criteria based on the radioactive emissions from a material, it's possible that it might find a loophole in rules controlling radioactive substances. One can buy kilograms of depleted Uranium (DU). DU is only about four times less radioactive than HEU, but non-fissionable. There are materials safety regulations regarding Uranium chemical toxicity as well -- probably modest, a lump of DU is not significantly more dangerous than a lump of Lead. I'd happily handle either without gloves, but I'd want to wash my hands afterwards.
The specialist explosives, on the other hand ... mere TNT is tightly regulated, and you'd probably need a much higher-energy explosive than that. Actual nukes use TATB. Any attempt to acquire or ship TATB would almost certainly result in a visit from the security services rather than any actual delivery of material, because AFAIK it has no other uses.
In short, they'd surely get you on the details if they couldn't get you on the big picture. Just like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
answered Dec 4 at 17:33
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You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
1
A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
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2
You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
1
A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
2
2
You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
You seem to be answering whether it's legal to build a nuclear weapon, but what about buying one ready made? That would also satisfy the question as it currently stands.
– phoog
Dec 4 at 18:02
1
1
A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
A nuclear weapon ready made is all of 1. a radioactive source, 2. a (container of) chemical high explosives, and 3. a bomb. So regulations for all three will apply to it, in addition to any pertaining specifically to nuclear bombs.
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:04
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
It's true that regulations about the contents of items already manufactured are not often rigidly enforced. You can get away with owning, buying or selling a 1920s Mickey Mouse wristwatch containing Radium-based paint, even though it's inadvisable to wear it and even though the regulations would require it to be kept in a lead-lined container (according to my school-teacher, long ago). But if they wanted to get you on it, they could!
– nigel222
Dec 5 at 19:09
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
Thanks for responding to my comment. I've upvoted the answer. While I suspect that prosecutors in their discretion might overlook some trade in radium wrist watches, I suppose it is in fact rather likely that they would include "raw materials" charges against those trading in fully functional nuclear weapons.
– phoog
Dec 6 at 17:37
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I would suggest adding a country tag - asking about the laws in nearly 200 jurisdictions around the world is quite broad.
– CramerTV
Dec 4 at 3:19
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Apart from anything else possessing any explosives requires a permit or license in most places (at least in principle). Hard to imagine a nuke not being covered by something like that. Anti terrorist legislation tends to have a lot of "catch all" type language in it as well. Even your basic "possession of an offensive weapon" type charge in criminal law could cover this. Are you asking if a law explicitly mentioning nuclear weapons exists ?
– StephenG
Dec 4 at 7:18
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For the US, a somewhat related case is David Hahn, aka the Radioactive Boy Scout
– BruceWayne
Dec 4 at 15:23
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I would be more curious to know if there are any countries where it is not explicitly illegal to own a private nuclear weapon. It's not like thermonuclear bombs are an odd rarity that might have slipped the legislative eye - (nearly?) every country in the world, I'm sure, has very explicit restrictions on the possession and transfer of any type of nuclear materials, especially weapons grade materials. We did, after all, spend half a century as a planet with the damned things pointed at each other in the scariest stalemate in human history. The governments of the world kinda noticed that.
– J...
Dec 4 at 17:13
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@PeterTaylor Can you cite a country with such a legal system? (Everything forbidden)? This sounds completely impractical... a law to start walking with the left or right foot first, a law to allow you to use toothpaste, a law to allow you to breathe more than ten times per minute... in short, I don't think I believe you.
– J...
Dec 6 at 14:48