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I keep throwing dice until I have seen 8 consecutive fives, after which I stop. What is the probability that under this scheme I will at any point have seen 10 consecutive sixes?



Is there any way to solve the question without using Markov Chains or doing tedious calculations, maybe by using clever arguments?










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    What is the probability getting a 6, and then another 6? Can you extrapolate this to your case?
    – Patricio
    Nov 23 at 10:58










  • This is fairly routine, if a bit tedious, using states. Use the states to store information regarding the then current consecutive string, if any.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:02










  • @lulu I understand that it can be done using markov chains, but I was wondering if there is a simpler way of doing it?
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:29










  • I doubt it. Well, it's easy to simulate if you don't mind a numerical result.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:32










  • It was asked in one of the tests as an MCQ and was expected to be done in much less time without using calculators etc., so I thought maybe there was a way.
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:39















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I keep throwing dice until I have seen 8 consecutive fives, after which I stop. What is the probability that under this scheme I will at any point have seen 10 consecutive sixes?



Is there any way to solve the question without using Markov Chains or doing tedious calculations, maybe by using clever arguments?










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    What is the probability getting a 6, and then another 6? Can you extrapolate this to your case?
    – Patricio
    Nov 23 at 10:58










  • This is fairly routine, if a bit tedious, using states. Use the states to store information regarding the then current consecutive string, if any.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:02










  • @lulu I understand that it can be done using markov chains, but I was wondering if there is a simpler way of doing it?
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:29










  • I doubt it. Well, it's easy to simulate if you don't mind a numerical result.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:32










  • It was asked in one of the tests as an MCQ and was expected to be done in much less time without using calculators etc., so I thought maybe there was a way.
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:39













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I keep throwing dice until I have seen 8 consecutive fives, after which I stop. What is the probability that under this scheme I will at any point have seen 10 consecutive sixes?



Is there any way to solve the question without using Markov Chains or doing tedious calculations, maybe by using clever arguments?










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I keep throwing dice until I have seen 8 consecutive fives, after which I stop. What is the probability that under this scheme I will at any point have seen 10 consecutive sixes?



Is there any way to solve the question without using Markov Chains or doing tedious calculations, maybe by using clever arguments?







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    What is the probability getting a 6, and then another 6? Can you extrapolate this to your case?
    – Patricio
    Nov 23 at 10:58










  • This is fairly routine, if a bit tedious, using states. Use the states to store information regarding the then current consecutive string, if any.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:02










  • @lulu I understand that it can be done using markov chains, but I was wondering if there is a simpler way of doing it?
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:29










  • I doubt it. Well, it's easy to simulate if you don't mind a numerical result.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:32










  • It was asked in one of the tests as an MCQ and was expected to be done in much less time without using calculators etc., so I thought maybe there was a way.
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:39














  • 1




    What is the probability getting a 6, and then another 6? Can you extrapolate this to your case?
    – Patricio
    Nov 23 at 10:58










  • This is fairly routine, if a bit tedious, using states. Use the states to store information regarding the then current consecutive string, if any.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:02










  • @lulu I understand that it can be done using markov chains, but I was wondering if there is a simpler way of doing it?
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:29










  • I doubt it. Well, it's easy to simulate if you don't mind a numerical result.
    – lulu
    Nov 23 at 11:32










  • It was asked in one of the tests as an MCQ and was expected to be done in much less time without using calculators etc., so I thought maybe there was a way.
    – anmol porwal
    Nov 23 at 11:39








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What is the probability getting a 6, and then another 6? Can you extrapolate this to your case?
– Patricio
Nov 23 at 10:58




What is the probability getting a 6, and then another 6? Can you extrapolate this to your case?
– Patricio
Nov 23 at 10:58












This is fairly routine, if a bit tedious, using states. Use the states to store information regarding the then current consecutive string, if any.
– lulu
Nov 23 at 11:02




This is fairly routine, if a bit tedious, using states. Use the states to store information regarding the then current consecutive string, if any.
– lulu
Nov 23 at 11:02












@lulu I understand that it can be done using markov chains, but I was wondering if there is a simpler way of doing it?
– anmol porwal
Nov 23 at 11:29




@lulu I understand that it can be done using markov chains, but I was wondering if there is a simpler way of doing it?
– anmol porwal
Nov 23 at 11:29












I doubt it. Well, it's easy to simulate if you don't mind a numerical result.
– lulu
Nov 23 at 11:32




I doubt it. Well, it's easy to simulate if you don't mind a numerical result.
– lulu
Nov 23 at 11:32












It was asked in one of the tests as an MCQ and was expected to be done in much less time without using calculators etc., so I thought maybe there was a way.
– anmol porwal
Nov 23 at 11:39




It was asked in one of the tests as an MCQ and was expected to be done in much less time without using calculators etc., so I thought maybe there was a way.
– anmol porwal
Nov 23 at 11:39















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