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These two exercises I encountered recently seem to develop some type of connection between GCD and LCM I can't quite figure out.



Exercise 1:




Find all the numbers $x$ and $y$ such that:



$a) GCD(x,y)=15, LCM(x,y)=150$ $b) GCD(x,y)=120 LCM(x,y)=1320$
$c) GCD(x,y)=100 LCM(x,y)=990$




Exercise 2:





Find all the numbers $m,n$ such that $GCD(m,n)=pq , LCM(m,n)=p^2qs$




where $p,q,s$ are prime




The first thing that is known to me is that $GCD(x,y) cdot LCM(x,y)= x cdot y$



Also $LCM(x,y)$ is at most $x cdot y$ while $GCD(x,y)$ is at most $max {x,y}$. Last thing is that $GCD(x,y)|LCM(x,y)$.



Using all this I tried to solve the first exercise:



$a)$ First two obvious pairs are $x=15, y=150$ and $y=15, x=150$. Now neither of the numbers can be bigger than $150$ or smaller than $15$. So we are looking for numbers in the range $15-150$ that satisfy $x cdot y = 15 cdot 150$ Another such pair is $(x,y)=(30,75), (x,y)=(75,30)$.



Similarly for $b)$ we find that the only possible values are permutations of the set {$120,1320$} and in $c)$ since $100$ does not divide $990$ no such numbers exist.



Now exercise 2 is what made me think there is actually another connection I'm not quite aware of since now it's about arbitrary prime numbers and the previous method doesn't work anymore. My intuition is that it has something to do with $GCD$ or $LCM$ of the $GCD(x,y), LCM(x,y)$










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    Do you mean $lcm(m,n)=p^2qs$ and $gcd(m,n)=pq$?
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These two exercises I encountered recently seem to develop some type of connection between GCD and LCM I can't quite figure out.



Exercise 1:




Find all the numbers $x$ and $y$ such that:



$a) GCD(x,y)=15, LCM(x,y)=150$ $b) GCD(x,y)=120 LCM(x,y)=1320$
$c) GCD(x,y)=100 LCM(x,y)=990$




Exercise 2:





Find all the numbers $m,n$ such that $GCD(m,n)=pq , LCM(m,n)=p^2qs$




where $p,q,s$ are prime




The first thing that is known to me is that $GCD(x,y) cdot LCM(x,y)= x cdot y$



Also $LCM(x,y)$ is at most $x cdot y$ while $GCD(x,y)$ is at most $max {x,y}$. Last thing is that $GCD(x,y)|LCM(x,y)$.



Using all this I tried to solve the first exercise:



$a)$ First two obvious pairs are $x=15, y=150$ and $y=15, x=150$. Now neither of the numbers can be bigger than $150$ or smaller than $15$. So we are looking for numbers in the range $15-150$ that satisfy $x cdot y = 15 cdot 150$ Another such pair is $(x,y)=(30,75), (x,y)=(75,30)$.



Similarly for $b)$ we find that the only possible values are permutations of the set {$120,1320$} and in $c)$ since $100$ does not divide $990$ no such numbers exist.



Now exercise 2 is what made me think there is actually another connection I'm not quite aware of since now it's about arbitrary prime numbers and the previous method doesn't work anymore. My intuition is that it has something to do with $GCD$ or $LCM$ of the $GCD(x,y), LCM(x,y)$










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    Do you mean $lcm(m,n)=p^2qs$ and $gcd(m,n)=pq$?
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These two exercises I encountered recently seem to develop some type of connection between GCD and LCM I can't quite figure out.



Exercise 1:




Find all the numbers $x$ and $y$ such that:



$a) GCD(x,y)=15, LCM(x,y)=150$ $b) GCD(x,y)=120 LCM(x,y)=1320$
$c) GCD(x,y)=100 LCM(x,y)=990$




Exercise 2:





Find all the numbers $m,n$ such that $GCD(m,n)=pq , LCM(m,n)=p^2qs$




where $p,q,s$ are prime




The first thing that is known to me is that $GCD(x,y) cdot LCM(x,y)= x cdot y$



Also $LCM(x,y)$ is at most $x cdot y$ while $GCD(x,y)$ is at most $max {x,y}$. Last thing is that $GCD(x,y)|LCM(x,y)$.



Using all this I tried to solve the first exercise:



$a)$ First two obvious pairs are $x=15, y=150$ and $y=15, x=150$. Now neither of the numbers can be bigger than $150$ or smaller than $15$. So we are looking for numbers in the range $15-150$ that satisfy $x cdot y = 15 cdot 150$ Another such pair is $(x,y)=(30,75), (x,y)=(75,30)$.



Similarly for $b)$ we find that the only possible values are permutations of the set {$120,1320$} and in $c)$ since $100$ does not divide $990$ no such numbers exist.



Now exercise 2 is what made me think there is actually another connection I'm not quite aware of since now it's about arbitrary prime numbers and the previous method doesn't work anymore. My intuition is that it has something to do with $GCD$ or $LCM$ of the $GCD(x,y), LCM(x,y)$










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These two exercises I encountered recently seem to develop some type of connection between GCD and LCM I can't quite figure out.



Exercise 1:




Find all the numbers $x$ and $y$ such that:



$a) GCD(x,y)=15, LCM(x,y)=150$ $b) GCD(x,y)=120 LCM(x,y)=1320$
$c) GCD(x,y)=100 LCM(x,y)=990$




Exercise 2:





Find all the numbers $m,n$ such that $GCD(m,n)=pq , LCM(m,n)=p^2qs$




where $p,q,s$ are prime




The first thing that is known to me is that $GCD(x,y) cdot LCM(x,y)= x cdot y$



Also $LCM(x,y)$ is at most $x cdot y$ while $GCD(x,y)$ is at most $max {x,y}$. Last thing is that $GCD(x,y)|LCM(x,y)$.



Using all this I tried to solve the first exercise:



$a)$ First two obvious pairs are $x=15, y=150$ and $y=15, x=150$. Now neither of the numbers can be bigger than $150$ or smaller than $15$. So we are looking for numbers in the range $15-150$ that satisfy $x cdot y = 15 cdot 150$ Another such pair is $(x,y)=(30,75), (x,y)=(75,30)$.



Similarly for $b)$ we find that the only possible values are permutations of the set {$120,1320$} and in $c)$ since $100$ does not divide $990$ no such numbers exist.



Now exercise 2 is what made me think there is actually another connection I'm not quite aware of since now it's about arbitrary prime numbers and the previous method doesn't work anymore. My intuition is that it has something to do with $GCD$ or $LCM$ of the $GCD(x,y), LCM(x,y)$







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    Do you mean $lcm(m,n)=p^2qs$ and $gcd(m,n)=pq$?
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    Do you mean $lcm(m,n)=p^2qs$ and $gcd(m,n)=pq$?
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    Nov 21 at 16:35








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Do you mean $lcm(m,n)=p^2qs$ and $gcd(m,n)=pq$?
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If you have two numbers with prime factorizations



$$x = p_1^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}p_3^{a_3}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$
$$y = p_1^{b_1}p_2^{b_2}p_3^{b_3}cdots p_n^{b_n}$$



then



$$GCD(x,y) = p_1^{min(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{min(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{min(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{min(a_n, b_n)}$$



and



$$LCM(x,y) = p_1^{max(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{max(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{max(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{max(a_n, b_n)}$$



where $min(a,b)$ and $max(a,b)$ are the minimum and maximum of $a$ and $b$, respectively.



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Here is the relevant fact:




Let $d=gcd(a,b)$ and $m=lcm(a,b)$. Then $v_p(d)=min(v_p(a),v_p(b))$ and $v_p(m)=max(v_p(a),v_p(b))$.




Here, $v_p(n)$ is the exponent of the prime $p$ in the factorization of $n$.






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    In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
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$begin{align}{bf Hint}
&gcd(X,Y) = d, {rm lcm}(X,Y) = m text{yields by cancelling $,dneq 0$}\[.3em]
iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y =, m/d, {rm for} x = X/d,, y = Y/d
end{align}$



$begin{align}{rm e.g.}
&gcd(X,Y) = 15, , {rm lcm}(X,Y) = 150\[.3em]
iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y, =, 10
end{align}$



This method quickly and simply solves all of them. Cancelling to reduce to the coprime case is a common way to simplify homogeneous divisibility problems.






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    If you have two numbers with prime factorizations



    $$x = p_1^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}p_3^{a_3}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$
    $$y = p_1^{b_1}p_2^{b_2}p_3^{b_3}cdots p_n^{b_n}$$



    then



    $$GCD(x,y) = p_1^{min(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{min(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{min(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{min(a_n, b_n)}$$



    and



    $$LCM(x,y) = p_1^{max(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{max(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{max(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{max(a_n, b_n)}$$



    where $min(a,b)$ and $max(a,b)$ are the minimum and maximum of $a$ and $b$, respectively.



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    If you have two numbers with prime factorizations



    $$x = p_1^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}p_3^{a_3}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$
    $$y = p_1^{b_1}p_2^{b_2}p_3^{b_3}cdots p_n^{b_n}$$



    then



    $$GCD(x,y) = p_1^{min(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{min(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{min(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{min(a_n, b_n)}$$



    and



    $$LCM(x,y) = p_1^{max(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{max(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{max(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{max(a_n, b_n)}$$



    where $min(a,b)$ and $max(a,b)$ are the minimum and maximum of $a$ and $b$, respectively.



    Does this help?






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    If you have two numbers with prime factorizations



    $$x = p_1^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}p_3^{a_3}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$
    $$y = p_1^{b_1}p_2^{b_2}p_3^{b_3}cdots p_n^{b_n}$$



    then



    $$GCD(x,y) = p_1^{min(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{min(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{min(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{min(a_n, b_n)}$$



    and



    $$LCM(x,y) = p_1^{max(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{max(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{max(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{max(a_n, b_n)}$$



    where $min(a,b)$ and $max(a,b)$ are the minimum and maximum of $a$ and $b$, respectively.



    Does this help?






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    If you have two numbers with prime factorizations



    $$x = p_1^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}p_3^{a_3}cdots p_n^{a_n}$$
    $$y = p_1^{b_1}p_2^{b_2}p_3^{b_3}cdots p_n^{b_n}$$



    then



    $$GCD(x,y) = p_1^{min(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{min(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{min(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{min(a_n, b_n)}$$



    and



    $$LCM(x,y) = p_1^{max(a_1, b_1)}p_2^{max(a_2, b_2)}p_3^{max(a_3, b_3)}cdots p_n^{max(a_n, b_n)}$$



    where $min(a,b)$ and $max(a,b)$ are the minimum and maximum of $a$ and $b$, respectively.



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    • That is same as lhf saying
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    • That is same as lhf saying
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      Nov 21 at 16:40
















    That is same as lhf saying
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    Nov 21 at 16:40




    That is same as lhf saying
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    Here is the relevant fact:




    Let $d=gcd(a,b)$ and $m=lcm(a,b)$. Then $v_p(d)=min(v_p(a),v_p(b))$ and $v_p(m)=max(v_p(a),v_p(b))$.




    Here, $v_p(n)$ is the exponent of the prime $p$ in the factorization of $n$.






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    • Somehow completely forgot about prime factorisation and how it relates to everything I wrote.
      – DreaDk
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      In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
      – vrugtehagel
      Nov 21 at 16:44

















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    Here is the relevant fact:




    Let $d=gcd(a,b)$ and $m=lcm(a,b)$. Then $v_p(d)=min(v_p(a),v_p(b))$ and $v_p(m)=max(v_p(a),v_p(b))$.




    Here, $v_p(n)$ is the exponent of the prime $p$ in the factorization of $n$.






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    • Somehow completely forgot about prime factorisation and how it relates to everything I wrote.
      – DreaDk
      Nov 21 at 16:43






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      In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
      – vrugtehagel
      Nov 21 at 16:44















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    up vote
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    Here is the relevant fact:




    Let $d=gcd(a,b)$ and $m=lcm(a,b)$. Then $v_p(d)=min(v_p(a),v_p(b))$ and $v_p(m)=max(v_p(a),v_p(b))$.




    Here, $v_p(n)$ is the exponent of the prime $p$ in the factorization of $n$.






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    Here is the relevant fact:




    Let $d=gcd(a,b)$ and $m=lcm(a,b)$. Then $v_p(d)=min(v_p(a),v_p(b))$ and $v_p(m)=max(v_p(a),v_p(b))$.




    Here, $v_p(n)$ is the exponent of the prime $p$ in the factorization of $n$.







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    • Somehow completely forgot about prime factorisation and how it relates to everything I wrote.
      – DreaDk
      Nov 21 at 16:43






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      In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
      – vrugtehagel
      Nov 21 at 16:44




















    • Somehow completely forgot about prime factorisation and how it relates to everything I wrote.
      – DreaDk
      Nov 21 at 16:43






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      In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
      – vrugtehagel
      Nov 21 at 16:44


















    Somehow completely forgot about prime factorisation and how it relates to everything I wrote.
    – DreaDk
    Nov 21 at 16:43




    Somehow completely forgot about prime factorisation and how it relates to everything I wrote.
    – DreaDk
    Nov 21 at 16:43




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    In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
    – vrugtehagel
    Nov 21 at 16:44






    In other words, $gcd(a,b)cdottext{lcm}(a,b)=acdot b$.
    – vrugtehagel
    Nov 21 at 16:44












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    $begin{align}{bf Hint}
    &gcd(X,Y) = d, {rm lcm}(X,Y) = m text{yields by cancelling $,dneq 0$}\[.3em]
    iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y =, m/d, {rm for} x = X/d,, y = Y/d
    end{align}$



    $begin{align}{rm e.g.}
    &gcd(X,Y) = 15, , {rm lcm}(X,Y) = 150\[.3em]
    iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y, =, 10
    end{align}$



    This method quickly and simply solves all of them. Cancelling to reduce to the coprime case is a common way to simplify homogeneous divisibility problems.






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      $begin{align}{bf Hint}
      &gcd(X,Y) = d, {rm lcm}(X,Y) = m text{yields by cancelling $,dneq 0$}\[.3em]
      iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y =, m/d, {rm for} x = X/d,, y = Y/d
      end{align}$



      $begin{align}{rm e.g.}
      &gcd(X,Y) = 15, , {rm lcm}(X,Y) = 150\[.3em]
      iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y, =, 10
      end{align}$



      This method quickly and simply solves all of them. Cancelling to reduce to the coprime case is a common way to simplify homogeneous divisibility problems.






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        $begin{align}{bf Hint}
        &gcd(X,Y) = d, {rm lcm}(X,Y) = m text{yields by cancelling $,dneq 0$}\[.3em]
        iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y =, m/d, {rm for} x = X/d,, y = Y/d
        end{align}$



        $begin{align}{rm e.g.}
        &gcd(X,Y) = 15, , {rm lcm}(X,Y) = 150\[.3em]
        iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y, =, 10
        end{align}$



        This method quickly and simply solves all of them. Cancelling to reduce to the coprime case is a common way to simplify homogeneous divisibility problems.






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        $begin{align}{bf Hint}
        &gcd(X,Y) = d, {rm lcm}(X,Y) = m text{yields by cancelling $,dneq 0$}\[.3em]
        iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y =, m/d, {rm for} x = X/d,, y = Y/d
        end{align}$



        $begin{align}{rm e.g.}
        &gcd(X,Y) = 15, , {rm lcm}(X,Y) = 150\[.3em]
        iff &gcd(x,,y) = 1,qquad , xcdot y, =, 10
        end{align}$



        This method quickly and simply solves all of them. Cancelling to reduce to the coprime case is a common way to simplify homogeneous divisibility problems.







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