How Do You Find an Equation of the Tangent Plane for a Torus?
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I've parameterized the torus given by $z^2 + (r - 2)^2$ = 1 using:
x = (2 + $costheta$)$cosalpha$,
y = (2 + $costheta$)$sinalpha$,
z = $sintheta$.
I'm really stuck on how to find the equation of the tangent plane to the torus.
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I've parameterized the torus given by $z^2 + (r - 2)^2$ = 1 using:
x = (2 + $costheta$)$cosalpha$,
y = (2 + $costheta$)$sinalpha$,
z = $sintheta$.
I'm really stuck on how to find the equation of the tangent plane to the torus.
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I've parameterized the torus given by $z^2 + (r - 2)^2$ = 1 using:
x = (2 + $costheta$)$cosalpha$,
y = (2 + $costheta$)$sinalpha$,
z = $sintheta$.
I'm really stuck on how to find the equation of the tangent plane to the torus.
vector-analysis parametrization
I've parameterized the torus given by $z^2 + (r - 2)^2$ = 1 using:
x = (2 + $costheta$)$cosalpha$,
y = (2 + $costheta$)$sinalpha$,
z = $sintheta$.
I'm really stuck on how to find the equation of the tangent plane to the torus.
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Call $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^3:(alpha,theta)mapsto(x,y,z)$ your parametrization. Then the vectors $left{frac{partialphi}{partialalpha},frac{partialphi}{partialtheta}right}$ span the tangent space $T$. If you want to find an equation, take a normal vector $n=frac{partialphi}{partialalpha}timesfrac{partialphi}{partialtheta}$, and your tangent space becomes
$$
T={vinmathbb R^3:ncdot v=0}.
$$
If you are interested in the affine tangent plane, you just translate $T$ to the corresponding point on the torus.
Alternatively, from the implicit definition
$$
f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1=0,
$$
you know that the tangent space is defined by ${v:vcdotnabla f=0}$. Again, you can translate it to
$$
T_{(x,y,z)}={v:[v-(x,y,z)]cdotnabla f=0}
$$
if you are interested in the affine plane.
... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
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If you're only looking for the equation of the tangent plane of the torus
$$ z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2 = 1, $$
then you can consider the function
$$ f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1, $$
so that your torus is the preimage $f^{-1}({0}),$ and so that
the gradient $nabla f(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ is a normal vector to the torus at the point $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$, which will immediately give you the equation you are after. Can you fill in the specific details on your own?
A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
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active
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up vote
2
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Call $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^3:(alpha,theta)mapsto(x,y,z)$ your parametrization. Then the vectors $left{frac{partialphi}{partialalpha},frac{partialphi}{partialtheta}right}$ span the tangent space $T$. If you want to find an equation, take a normal vector $n=frac{partialphi}{partialalpha}timesfrac{partialphi}{partialtheta}$, and your tangent space becomes
$$
T={vinmathbb R^3:ncdot v=0}.
$$
If you are interested in the affine tangent plane, you just translate $T$ to the corresponding point on the torus.
Alternatively, from the implicit definition
$$
f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1=0,
$$
you know that the tangent space is defined by ${v:vcdotnabla f=0}$. Again, you can translate it to
$$
T_{(x,y,z)}={v:[v-(x,y,z)]cdotnabla f=0}
$$
if you are interested in the affine plane.
... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
Call $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^3:(alpha,theta)mapsto(x,y,z)$ your parametrization. Then the vectors $left{frac{partialphi}{partialalpha},frac{partialphi}{partialtheta}right}$ span the tangent space $T$. If you want to find an equation, take a normal vector $n=frac{partialphi}{partialalpha}timesfrac{partialphi}{partialtheta}$, and your tangent space becomes
$$
T={vinmathbb R^3:ncdot v=0}.
$$
If you are interested in the affine tangent plane, you just translate $T$ to the corresponding point on the torus.
Alternatively, from the implicit definition
$$
f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1=0,
$$
you know that the tangent space is defined by ${v:vcdotnabla f=0}$. Again, you can translate it to
$$
T_{(x,y,z)}={v:[v-(x,y,z)]cdotnabla f=0}
$$
if you are interested in the affine plane.
... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Call $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^3:(alpha,theta)mapsto(x,y,z)$ your parametrization. Then the vectors $left{frac{partialphi}{partialalpha},frac{partialphi}{partialtheta}right}$ span the tangent space $T$. If you want to find an equation, take a normal vector $n=frac{partialphi}{partialalpha}timesfrac{partialphi}{partialtheta}$, and your tangent space becomes
$$
T={vinmathbb R^3:ncdot v=0}.
$$
If you are interested in the affine tangent plane, you just translate $T$ to the corresponding point on the torus.
Alternatively, from the implicit definition
$$
f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1=0,
$$
you know that the tangent space is defined by ${v:vcdotnabla f=0}$. Again, you can translate it to
$$
T_{(x,y,z)}={v:[v-(x,y,z)]cdotnabla f=0}
$$
if you are interested in the affine plane.
Call $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^3:(alpha,theta)mapsto(x,y,z)$ your parametrization. Then the vectors $left{frac{partialphi}{partialalpha},frac{partialphi}{partialtheta}right}$ span the tangent space $T$. If you want to find an equation, take a normal vector $n=frac{partialphi}{partialalpha}timesfrac{partialphi}{partialtheta}$, and your tangent space becomes
$$
T={vinmathbb R^3:ncdot v=0}.
$$
If you are interested in the affine tangent plane, you just translate $T$ to the corresponding point on the torus.
Alternatively, from the implicit definition
$$
f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1=0,
$$
you know that the tangent space is defined by ${v:vcdotnabla f=0}$. Again, you can translate it to
$$
T_{(x,y,z)}={v:[v-(x,y,z)]cdotnabla f=0}
$$
if you are interested in the affine plane.
edited Nov 21 at 17:06
answered Nov 21 at 17:02
Federico
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... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
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... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
... in just the same way you would do it for the sphere.
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:05
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
If you're only looking for the equation of the tangent plane of the torus
$$ z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2 = 1, $$
then you can consider the function
$$ f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1, $$
so that your torus is the preimage $f^{-1}({0}),$ and so that
the gradient $nabla f(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ is a normal vector to the torus at the point $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$, which will immediately give you the equation you are after. Can you fill in the specific details on your own?
A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
If you're only looking for the equation of the tangent plane of the torus
$$ z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2 = 1, $$
then you can consider the function
$$ f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1, $$
so that your torus is the preimage $f^{-1}({0}),$ and so that
the gradient $nabla f(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ is a normal vector to the torus at the point $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$, which will immediately give you the equation you are after. Can you fill in the specific details on your own?
A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
If you're only looking for the equation of the tangent plane of the torus
$$ z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2 = 1, $$
then you can consider the function
$$ f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1, $$
so that your torus is the preimage $f^{-1}({0}),$ and so that
the gradient $nabla f(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ is a normal vector to the torus at the point $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$, which will immediately give you the equation you are after. Can you fill in the specific details on your own?
If you're only looking for the equation of the tangent plane of the torus
$$ z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2 = 1, $$
then you can consider the function
$$ f(x,y,z) = z^2+left(sqrt{x^2+y^2}-2right)^2-1, $$
so that your torus is the preimage $f^{-1}({0}),$ and so that
the gradient $nabla f(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ is a normal vector to the torus at the point $(x_0, y_0, z_0)$, which will immediately give you the equation you are after. Can you fill in the specific details on your own?
answered Nov 21 at 17:02
MisterRiemann
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A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
add a comment |
A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
A little more complex than parametric representation, easier to tackle (see solution by @Federico) in particular for locating special planes like bi-tangent Villarceau planes)
– Jean Marie
Nov 21 at 17:09
add a comment |
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