Prove $n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for all integers n ≥ 0












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The statement I'm trying to prove is:



$n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for all integers n ≥ 0



I eventually need to prove $(k + 1)^3 + 7(k + 1) + 3$ is divisible by 3.



I don't really understand how to deal with $k + 1$, so I'm a little lost.



I've know that the base case of P(0) is true, but I'm not sure about proving the inductive case.










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    It's not true for $k=0$. It is true for $n=0$, but you didn't get to the variable $n$ until after saying $P(0)$ is true...
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    It's only divisible by $3$ when $k+1$ is divisible by $3$, specifically.
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    Maybe you meant $n^3 -7n+3$?
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    yur statement is not true. peter.petrov has given a nice counter example.
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The statement I'm trying to prove is:



$n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for all integers n ≥ 0



I eventually need to prove $(k + 1)^3 + 7(k + 1) + 3$ is divisible by 3.



I don't really understand how to deal with $k + 1$, so I'm a little lost.



I've know that the base case of P(0) is true, but I'm not sure about proving the inductive case.










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    It's not true for $k=0$. It is true for $n=0$, but you didn't get to the variable $n$ until after saying $P(0)$ is true...
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    – Thomas Andrews
    Feb 5 '16 at 17:45












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    It's only divisible by $3$ when $k+1$ is divisible by $3$, specifically.
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    Feb 5 '16 at 17:46








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    Maybe you meant $n^3 -7n+3$?
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    – Lubin
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    yur statement is not true. peter.petrov has given a nice counter example.
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    – Bhaskara-III
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The statement I'm trying to prove is:



$n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for all integers n ≥ 0



I eventually need to prove $(k + 1)^3 + 7(k + 1) + 3$ is divisible by 3.



I don't really understand how to deal with $k + 1$, so I'm a little lost.



I've know that the base case of P(0) is true, but I'm not sure about proving the inductive case.










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The statement I'm trying to prove is:



$n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for all integers n ≥ 0



I eventually need to prove $(k + 1)^3 + 7(k + 1) + 3$ is divisible by 3.



I don't really understand how to deal with $k + 1$, so I'm a little lost.



I've know that the base case of P(0) is true, but I'm not sure about proving the inductive case.







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    It's not true for $k=0$. It is true for $n=0$, but you didn't get to the variable $n$ until after saying $P(0)$ is true...
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    – Thomas Andrews
    Feb 5 '16 at 17:45












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    It's only divisible by $3$ when $k+1$ is divisible by $3$, specifically.
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    – Thomas Andrews
    Feb 5 '16 at 17:46








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    Maybe you meant $n^3 -7n+3$?
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    – Lubin
    Feb 5 '16 at 18:03










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    yur statement is not true. peter.petrov has given a nice counter example.
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    – Bhaskara-III
    Feb 5 '16 at 18:18


















  • $begingroup$
    It's not true for $k=0$. It is true for $n=0$, but you didn't get to the variable $n$ until after saying $P(0)$ is true...
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    – Thomas Andrews
    Feb 5 '16 at 17:45












  • $begingroup$
    It's only divisible by $3$ when $k+1$ is divisible by $3$, specifically.
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    – Thomas Andrews
    Feb 5 '16 at 17:46








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    $begingroup$
    Maybe you meant $n^3 -7n+3$?
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    – Lubin
    Feb 5 '16 at 18:03










  • $begingroup$
    yur statement is not true. peter.petrov has given a nice counter example.
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    – Bhaskara-III
    Feb 5 '16 at 18:18
















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It's not true for $k=0$. It is true for $n=0$, but you didn't get to the variable $n$ until after saying $P(0)$ is true...
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– Thomas Andrews
Feb 5 '16 at 17:45






$begingroup$
It's not true for $k=0$. It is true for $n=0$, but you didn't get to the variable $n$ until after saying $P(0)$ is true...
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– Thomas Andrews
Feb 5 '16 at 17:45














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It's only divisible by $3$ when $k+1$ is divisible by $3$, specifically.
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– Thomas Andrews
Feb 5 '16 at 17:46






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It's only divisible by $3$ when $k+1$ is divisible by $3$, specifically.
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– Thomas Andrews
Feb 5 '16 at 17:46






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Maybe you meant $n^3 -7n+3$?
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– Lubin
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Maybe you meant $n^3 -7n+3$?
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– Lubin
Feb 5 '16 at 18:03












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yur statement is not true. peter.petrov has given a nice counter example.
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– Bhaskara-III
Feb 5 '16 at 18:18




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yur statement is not true. peter.petrov has given a nice counter example.
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The statement is not true. Take $n=1$ as a counter example.



Since it's not true, you won't manage to prove it (by induction or otherwise).






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    nice observation, +1
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Take $k+1=j$ and take modulo $3$. So the question is if $j^3+j$ is a multiple of $3$, but $j^3+j=j(j^2+1)$, which is never a multiple of $3$ if $j$ isn't.






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    Set $n=k+1$ then your expression is equivalent modulo 3 to
    $$
    n^3+7n+3 equiv n+7n+3 equiv 8n equiv -n pmod{3}.
    $$
    In particular, this is a multiple of $3$ iff $3$ divides $k+1$.






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      The given statement $n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for $n ≥ 0$ is not true, as detailed below
      P(n): n^3. + 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
      P(1): 1^3 + 7(1) + 3 = 11 which is not divisible by 3
      P(2): 2^3 + 7(2) + 3 = 25 which is also not divisible by 3
      Hence given statement is not true.



      I presume that statement may be n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3 for n ≥ 0
      In that case Proof is detailed below.



      P(n): n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
      P(1): (1)^3 -7(1) + 3 = 1 -7 + 3 = -3 which is divisible by 3



      Assume P(k) is true for some positive integer k, i.e
      P(k): (k)^3 - 7k + 3 is divisible by 3
      We can write (k)^3 - 7k + 3 = 3d, where d ∈ N ………….. (1)
      We shall prove that P(k+1) is also true, whenever P(k) is true. Now we have
      P(k+1): (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3

      = k^3 + 1^3 +3.k.1(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3 (Using (a+b)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + 3ab(a+b)



          = k^3 + 1 +3k(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3  
      = k^3 + 1 + 3k^2 + 3k -7k - 7 +3
      = k^3 - 7k + 3 + 3k^2 +3k - 6 (by rearranging)
      = 3d + 3(k^2 + k - 2 ).........{From (1)}
      = 3d + 3(k^2 + 2k - k - 2 )
      = 3d + 3 {k(k +2)-(k+2)}
      = 3d + 3 (k-1)(k+2)
      = 3 {d +(k-1)(k+2)}
      = 3 q, where q = {d +(k-1)(k+2)} which is some positive integer


      From the last line, we see (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3 ) is divisible by 3.
      Thus P(k+1) is true, whenever P(k) is true.
      Hence, by the PMI, the given statement is true for all natural numbers n ≥ 0






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        The statement is not true. Take $n=1$ as a counter example.



        Since it's not true, you won't manage to prove it (by induction or otherwise).






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          nice observation, +1
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        The statement is not true. Take $n=1$ as a counter example.



        Since it's not true, you won't manage to prove it (by induction or otherwise).






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        The statement is not true. Take $n=1$ as a counter example.



        Since it's not true, you won't manage to prove it (by induction or otherwise).






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        The statement is not true. Take $n=1$ as a counter example.



        Since it's not true, you won't manage to prove it (by induction or otherwise).







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        nice observation, +1
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        Take $k+1=j$ and take modulo $3$. So the question is if $j^3+j$ is a multiple of $3$, but $j^3+j=j(j^2+1)$, which is never a multiple of $3$ if $j$ isn't.






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          Take $k+1=j$ and take modulo $3$. So the question is if $j^3+j$ is a multiple of $3$, but $j^3+j=j(j^2+1)$, which is never a multiple of $3$ if $j$ isn't.






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            Take $k+1=j$ and take modulo $3$. So the question is if $j^3+j$ is a multiple of $3$, but $j^3+j=j(j^2+1)$, which is never a multiple of $3$ if $j$ isn't.






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            Take $k+1=j$ and take modulo $3$. So the question is if $j^3+j$ is a multiple of $3$, but $j^3+j=j(j^2+1)$, which is never a multiple of $3$ if $j$ isn't.







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                Set $n=k+1$ then your expression is equivalent modulo 3 to
                $$
                n^3+7n+3 equiv n+7n+3 equiv 8n equiv -n pmod{3}.
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                In particular, this is a multiple of $3$ iff $3$ divides $k+1$.






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                  Set $n=k+1$ then your expression is equivalent modulo 3 to
                  $$
                  n^3+7n+3 equiv n+7n+3 equiv 8n equiv -n pmod{3}.
                  $$
                  In particular, this is a multiple of $3$ iff $3$ divides $k+1$.






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                    Set $n=k+1$ then your expression is equivalent modulo 3 to
                    $$
                    n^3+7n+3 equiv n+7n+3 equiv 8n equiv -n pmod{3}.
                    $$
                    In particular, this is a multiple of $3$ iff $3$ divides $k+1$.






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                    Set $n=k+1$ then your expression is equivalent modulo 3 to
                    $$
                    n^3+7n+3 equiv n+7n+3 equiv 8n equiv -n pmod{3}.
                    $$
                    In particular, this is a multiple of $3$ iff $3$ divides $k+1$.







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                        The given statement $n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for $n ≥ 0$ is not true, as detailed below
                        P(n): n^3. + 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                        P(1): 1^3 + 7(1) + 3 = 11 which is not divisible by 3
                        P(2): 2^3 + 7(2) + 3 = 25 which is also not divisible by 3
                        Hence given statement is not true.



                        I presume that statement may be n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3 for n ≥ 0
                        In that case Proof is detailed below.



                        P(n): n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                        P(1): (1)^3 -7(1) + 3 = 1 -7 + 3 = -3 which is divisible by 3



                        Assume P(k) is true for some positive integer k, i.e
                        P(k): (k)^3 - 7k + 3 is divisible by 3
                        We can write (k)^3 - 7k + 3 = 3d, where d ∈ N ………….. (1)
                        We shall prove that P(k+1) is also true, whenever P(k) is true. Now we have
                        P(k+1): (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3

                        = k^3 + 1^3 +3.k.1(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3 (Using (a+b)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + 3ab(a+b)



                            = k^3 + 1 +3k(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3  
                        = k^3 + 1 + 3k^2 + 3k -7k - 7 +3
                        = k^3 - 7k + 3 + 3k^2 +3k - 6 (by rearranging)
                        = 3d + 3(k^2 + k - 2 ).........{From (1)}
                        = 3d + 3(k^2 + 2k - k - 2 )
                        = 3d + 3 {k(k +2)-(k+2)}
                        = 3d + 3 (k-1)(k+2)
                        = 3 {d +(k-1)(k+2)}
                        = 3 q, where q = {d +(k-1)(k+2)} which is some positive integer


                        From the last line, we see (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3 ) is divisible by 3.
                        Thus P(k+1) is true, whenever P(k) is true.
                        Hence, by the PMI, the given statement is true for all natural numbers n ≥ 0






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                          The given statement $n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for $n ≥ 0$ is not true, as detailed below
                          P(n): n^3. + 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                          P(1): 1^3 + 7(1) + 3 = 11 which is not divisible by 3
                          P(2): 2^3 + 7(2) + 3 = 25 which is also not divisible by 3
                          Hence given statement is not true.



                          I presume that statement may be n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3 for n ≥ 0
                          In that case Proof is detailed below.



                          P(n): n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                          P(1): (1)^3 -7(1) + 3 = 1 -7 + 3 = -3 which is divisible by 3



                          Assume P(k) is true for some positive integer k, i.e
                          P(k): (k)^3 - 7k + 3 is divisible by 3
                          We can write (k)^3 - 7k + 3 = 3d, where d ∈ N ………….. (1)
                          We shall prove that P(k+1) is also true, whenever P(k) is true. Now we have
                          P(k+1): (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3

                          = k^3 + 1^3 +3.k.1(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3 (Using (a+b)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + 3ab(a+b)



                              = k^3 + 1 +3k(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3  
                          = k^3 + 1 + 3k^2 + 3k -7k - 7 +3
                          = k^3 - 7k + 3 + 3k^2 +3k - 6 (by rearranging)
                          = 3d + 3(k^2 + k - 2 ).........{From (1)}
                          = 3d + 3(k^2 + 2k - k - 2 )
                          = 3d + 3 {k(k +2)-(k+2)}
                          = 3d + 3 (k-1)(k+2)
                          = 3 {d +(k-1)(k+2)}
                          = 3 q, where q = {d +(k-1)(k+2)} which is some positive integer


                          From the last line, we see (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3 ) is divisible by 3.
                          Thus P(k+1) is true, whenever P(k) is true.
                          Hence, by the PMI, the given statement is true for all natural numbers n ≥ 0






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                            The given statement $n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for $n ≥ 0$ is not true, as detailed below
                            P(n): n^3. + 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                            P(1): 1^3 + 7(1) + 3 = 11 which is not divisible by 3
                            P(2): 2^3 + 7(2) + 3 = 25 which is also not divisible by 3
                            Hence given statement is not true.



                            I presume that statement may be n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3 for n ≥ 0
                            In that case Proof is detailed below.



                            P(n): n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                            P(1): (1)^3 -7(1) + 3 = 1 -7 + 3 = -3 which is divisible by 3



                            Assume P(k) is true for some positive integer k, i.e
                            P(k): (k)^3 - 7k + 3 is divisible by 3
                            We can write (k)^3 - 7k + 3 = 3d, where d ∈ N ………….. (1)
                            We shall prove that P(k+1) is also true, whenever P(k) is true. Now we have
                            P(k+1): (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3

                            = k^3 + 1^3 +3.k.1(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3 (Using (a+b)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + 3ab(a+b)



                                = k^3 + 1 +3k(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3  
                            = k^3 + 1 + 3k^2 + 3k -7k - 7 +3
                            = k^3 - 7k + 3 + 3k^2 +3k - 6 (by rearranging)
                            = 3d + 3(k^2 + k - 2 ).........{From (1)}
                            = 3d + 3(k^2 + 2k - k - 2 )
                            = 3d + 3 {k(k +2)-(k+2)}
                            = 3d + 3 (k-1)(k+2)
                            = 3 {d +(k-1)(k+2)}
                            = 3 q, where q = {d +(k-1)(k+2)} which is some positive integer


                            From the last line, we see (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3 ) is divisible by 3.
                            Thus P(k+1) is true, whenever P(k) is true.
                            Hence, by the PMI, the given statement is true for all natural numbers n ≥ 0






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                            The given statement $n^3 + 7n + 3$ is divisible by 3 for $n ≥ 0$ is not true, as detailed below
                            P(n): n^3. + 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                            P(1): 1^3 + 7(1) + 3 = 11 which is not divisible by 3
                            P(2): 2^3 + 7(2) + 3 = 25 which is also not divisible by 3
                            Hence given statement is not true.



                            I presume that statement may be n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3 for n ≥ 0
                            In that case Proof is detailed below.



                            P(n): n^3 - 7n + 3 is divisible by 3
                            P(1): (1)^3 -7(1) + 3 = 1 -7 + 3 = -3 which is divisible by 3



                            Assume P(k) is true for some positive integer k, i.e
                            P(k): (k)^3 - 7k + 3 is divisible by 3
                            We can write (k)^3 - 7k + 3 = 3d, where d ∈ N ………….. (1)
                            We shall prove that P(k+1) is also true, whenever P(k) is true. Now we have
                            P(k+1): (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3

                            = k^3 + 1^3 +3.k.1(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3 (Using (a+b)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + 3ab(a+b)



                                = k^3 + 1 +3k(k+1) - 7(k+1) + 3  
                            = k^3 + 1 + 3k^2 + 3k -7k - 7 +3
                            = k^3 - 7k + 3 + 3k^2 +3k - 6 (by rearranging)
                            = 3d + 3(k^2 + k - 2 ).........{From (1)}
                            = 3d + 3(k^2 + 2k - k - 2 )
                            = 3d + 3 {k(k +2)-(k+2)}
                            = 3d + 3 (k-1)(k+2)
                            = 3 {d +(k-1)(k+2)}
                            = 3 q, where q = {d +(k-1)(k+2)} which is some positive integer


                            From the last line, we see (k+1)^3 - 7(k+1) + 3 ) is divisible by 3.
                            Thus P(k+1) is true, whenever P(k) is true.
                            Hence, by the PMI, the given statement is true for all natural numbers n ≥ 0







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