What am I doing wrong finding $lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{1/x^2}$?
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It has an answer here, but I'd like to know where my solution went wrong.
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x +xcdot 3^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+1)^x-(2+1)^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{1+x+o(x)-1-x2-o(x)}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{-1}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$e^{-1}$$
The answer in the book is $frac{2}{3}$.
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$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x +xcdot 3^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+1)^x-(2+1)^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{1+x+o(x)-1-x2-o(x)}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{-1}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$e^{-1}$$
The answer in the book is $frac{2}{3}$.
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It has an answer here, but I'd like to know where my solution went wrong.
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x +xcdot 3^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+1)^x-(2+1)^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{1+x+o(x)-1-x2-o(x)}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{-1}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$e^{-1}$$
The answer in the book is $frac{2}{3}$.
calculus limits limits-without-lhopital
It has an answer here, but I'd like to know where my solution went wrong.
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( frac{1+xcdot2^x +xcdot 3^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^frac{1}{x^2} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+1)^x-(2+1)^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{1}{x}cdot frac{1+x+o(x)-1-x2-o(x)}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$lim_{xto 0} e^{frac{-1}{1+xcdot3^x}} $$
$$e^{-1}$$
The answer in the book is $frac{2}{3}$.
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You want to evaluate:
$$lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+xcolor{red}{ln 2}+o(x^2))-(1+xcolor{red}{ln 3}+o(x^2))}{1+xcdot3^x}=\
lim_{xto 0}frac{ln (2/3)+o(x^2)}{1+xcdot3^x}=ln frac23.$$
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You have used binomial theorem to expand $2^x$ and $3^x$ and this is not valid as the binomial theorem for a general exponent is valid only under certain conditions. To be precise you have $$(1+t)^x=sum_{k=0}^{infty}binom{x}{k}t^k$$ for $|t|<1$. The result is valid for $t=pm 1$ with certain restrictions on $x$. For details see this blog post.
But in any case it is not valid for $t=2$ and thus can't be used to expand $3^x$. Also when the binomial expansion is valid we have $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(t)$$ and not $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(x)$$ The right approach for your problem is to use the standard limit $$lim_{xto 0}frac{a^x-1}{x}=log a$$ and thus we get $$lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-3^x}{x(1+x3^x)}=lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-1}{x}-frac{3^x-1}{x}=log 2-log 3=log(2/3)$$ and the desired limit is $e^{log(2/3)}=2/3$.
Also you can split limit operations into base and exponent under certain conditions but it is much simpler to take logs rather than remembering the conditions under which one can split limit operations.
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You went wrong in this step
$$ldots=lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} =lim_{xto 0} color{red}{e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}}}= ldots$$
since you take the limit for a part of the expression.
Refer also to the related
- Problem with limit solving
- Analyzing limits problem Calculus (tell me where I'm wrong).
1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
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@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
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You want to evaluate:
$$lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+xcolor{red}{ln 2}+o(x^2))-(1+xcolor{red}{ln 3}+o(x^2))}{1+xcdot3^x}=\
lim_{xto 0}frac{ln (2/3)+o(x^2)}{1+xcdot3^x}=ln frac23.$$
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You want to evaluate:
$$lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+xcolor{red}{ln 2}+o(x^2))-(1+xcolor{red}{ln 3}+o(x^2))}{1+xcdot3^x}=\
lim_{xto 0}frac{ln (2/3)+o(x^2)}{1+xcdot3^x}=ln frac23.$$
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You want to evaluate:
$$lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+xcolor{red}{ln 2}+o(x^2))-(1+xcolor{red}{ln 3}+o(x^2))}{1+xcdot3^x}=\
lim_{xto 0}frac{ln (2/3)+o(x^2)}{1+xcdot3^x}=ln frac23.$$
You want to evaluate:
$$lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{2^x-3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}=lim_{xto 0}frac{1}{x}cdot frac{(1+xcolor{red}{ln 2}+o(x^2))-(1+xcolor{red}{ln 3}+o(x^2))}{1+xcdot3^x}=\
lim_{xto 0}frac{ln (2/3)+o(x^2)}{1+xcdot3^x}=ln frac23.$$
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You have used binomial theorem to expand $2^x$ and $3^x$ and this is not valid as the binomial theorem for a general exponent is valid only under certain conditions. To be precise you have $$(1+t)^x=sum_{k=0}^{infty}binom{x}{k}t^k$$ for $|t|<1$. The result is valid for $t=pm 1$ with certain restrictions on $x$. For details see this blog post.
But in any case it is not valid for $t=2$ and thus can't be used to expand $3^x$. Also when the binomial expansion is valid we have $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(t)$$ and not $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(x)$$ The right approach for your problem is to use the standard limit $$lim_{xto 0}frac{a^x-1}{x}=log a$$ and thus we get $$lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-3^x}{x(1+x3^x)}=lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-1}{x}-frac{3^x-1}{x}=log 2-log 3=log(2/3)$$ and the desired limit is $e^{log(2/3)}=2/3$.
Also you can split limit operations into base and exponent under certain conditions but it is much simpler to take logs rather than remembering the conditions under which one can split limit operations.
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You have used binomial theorem to expand $2^x$ and $3^x$ and this is not valid as the binomial theorem for a general exponent is valid only under certain conditions. To be precise you have $$(1+t)^x=sum_{k=0}^{infty}binom{x}{k}t^k$$ for $|t|<1$. The result is valid for $t=pm 1$ with certain restrictions on $x$. For details see this blog post.
But in any case it is not valid for $t=2$ and thus can't be used to expand $3^x$. Also when the binomial expansion is valid we have $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(t)$$ and not $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(x)$$ The right approach for your problem is to use the standard limit $$lim_{xto 0}frac{a^x-1}{x}=log a$$ and thus we get $$lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-3^x}{x(1+x3^x)}=lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-1}{x}-frac{3^x-1}{x}=log 2-log 3=log(2/3)$$ and the desired limit is $e^{log(2/3)}=2/3$.
Also you can split limit operations into base and exponent under certain conditions but it is much simpler to take logs rather than remembering the conditions under which one can split limit operations.
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You have used binomial theorem to expand $2^x$ and $3^x$ and this is not valid as the binomial theorem for a general exponent is valid only under certain conditions. To be precise you have $$(1+t)^x=sum_{k=0}^{infty}binom{x}{k}t^k$$ for $|t|<1$. The result is valid for $t=pm 1$ with certain restrictions on $x$. For details see this blog post.
But in any case it is not valid for $t=2$ and thus can't be used to expand $3^x$. Also when the binomial expansion is valid we have $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(t)$$ and not $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(x)$$ The right approach for your problem is to use the standard limit $$lim_{xto 0}frac{a^x-1}{x}=log a$$ and thus we get $$lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-3^x}{x(1+x3^x)}=lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-1}{x}-frac{3^x-1}{x}=log 2-log 3=log(2/3)$$ and the desired limit is $e^{log(2/3)}=2/3$.
Also you can split limit operations into base and exponent under certain conditions but it is much simpler to take logs rather than remembering the conditions under which one can split limit operations.
You have used binomial theorem to expand $2^x$ and $3^x$ and this is not valid as the binomial theorem for a general exponent is valid only under certain conditions. To be precise you have $$(1+t)^x=sum_{k=0}^{infty}binom{x}{k}t^k$$ for $|t|<1$. The result is valid for $t=pm 1$ with certain restrictions on $x$. For details see this blog post.
But in any case it is not valid for $t=2$ and thus can't be used to expand $3^x$. Also when the binomial expansion is valid we have $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(t)$$ and not $$(1+t)^x=1+xt+o(x)$$ The right approach for your problem is to use the standard limit $$lim_{xto 0}frac{a^x-1}{x}=log a$$ and thus we get $$lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-3^x}{x(1+x3^x)}=lim_{xto 0}frac{2^x-1}{x}-frac{3^x-1}{x}=log 2-log 3=log(2/3)$$ and the desired limit is $e^{log(2/3)}=2/3$.
Also you can split limit operations into base and exponent under certain conditions but it is much simpler to take logs rather than remembering the conditions under which one can split limit operations.
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You went wrong in this step
$$ldots=lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} =lim_{xto 0} color{red}{e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}}}= ldots$$
since you take the limit for a part of the expression.
Refer also to the related
- Problem with limit solving
- Analyzing limits problem Calculus (tell me where I'm wrong).
1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
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@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 8:12
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You went wrong in this step
$$ldots=lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} =lim_{xto 0} color{red}{e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}}}= ldots$$
since you take the limit for a part of the expression.
Refer also to the related
- Problem with limit solving
- Analyzing limits problem Calculus (tell me where I'm wrong).
1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
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@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 8:12
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You went wrong in this step
$$ldots=lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} =lim_{xto 0} color{red}{e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}}}= ldots$$
since you take the limit for a part of the expression.
Refer also to the related
- Problem with limit solving
- Analyzing limits problem Calculus (tell me where I'm wrong).
You went wrong in this step
$$ldots=lim_{xto 0} left( 1 + frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x} right)^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{1+xcdot 3^x}{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}cdotfrac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}} =lim_{xto 0} color{red}{e^{frac{1}{x^2}cdot frac{xcdot2^x-xcdot 3^x}{1+xcdot3^x}}}= ldots$$
since you take the limit for a part of the expression.
Refer also to the related
- Problem with limit solving
- Analyzing limits problem Calculus (tell me where I'm wrong).
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answered Nov 18 at 7:59
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1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
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@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 8:12
add a comment |
1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
1
@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 8:12
1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
1. Don't arithmetical properties of limits allow us to take the limit for a part of the expression? 2. Would it had been correct if I have sent the "lim" into the exponent? Thank you!
– fragileradius
Nov 18 at 8:08
1
1
@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 8:12
@fragileradius I've added some references with a full discussion about that.
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 8:12
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