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I'm trying to find the current at $t=frac{pi}{4}$



The series RLC circuit has a voltage source given by $E(t)=sin(100t)$ with a capacitor of 2 F, a resistor of 0.02 ohms, and an inductor of 0.001H. If the initial current and the initial charge on the capacitor are both zero,
determine the current in the circuit for $t=frac{pi}{4}$



Based on the information given I have the equation as follows:



$$frac{d^2I}{dt^2}+20frac{dI}{dt}+500I=100000cos(100t)$$



so the homogeneous equation associated is: $r^2+20r+500=(r+10)^2+20^2=0$



whose roots are $-10 pm 20i$. Hence, the solution to the homogeneous equation is:



$$I_h=C_1e^{-10t}cos(20t)+C_2e^{-10t}sin(20t)$$



To find a particular solution, I use the method of undetermined coefficients.



$$I_p=-10.080 cos(100t)+2.122 sin(100t).$$



And after finding $C_1$ and $C_2$ I have:



$$I(t)=e^{-10t}(10.080 cos(100t) -5.570 sin(20t))-10.080cos(20t)+2.122sin(20t)$$



But $I(frac{pi}{4})=0.080111$, and the answer the professor give was 10.076. Am I doing something wrong?










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  • $0.001I_h''+0.02I_h'+500I_h equiv I_h''+20I_h'+500000I_h=0$
    – Cesareo
    Nov 23 at 1:22










  • @Cesareo, it wa a mistake. Now it's fixed.
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 1:28










  • @Moo I didn't know if writing everything was crucial. I wrote cosine becuase with that form of equation is the derivate of E(t).
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 2:37












  • What did you use for the initial conditions of $I$? We know the initial charge and the initial current, so isn't it better so find $q$ first?
    – Dylan
    Nov 24 at 13:46















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I'm trying to find the current at $t=frac{pi}{4}$



The series RLC circuit has a voltage source given by $E(t)=sin(100t)$ with a capacitor of 2 F, a resistor of 0.02 ohms, and an inductor of 0.001H. If the initial current and the initial charge on the capacitor are both zero,
determine the current in the circuit for $t=frac{pi}{4}$



Based on the information given I have the equation as follows:



$$frac{d^2I}{dt^2}+20frac{dI}{dt}+500I=100000cos(100t)$$



so the homogeneous equation associated is: $r^2+20r+500=(r+10)^2+20^2=0$



whose roots are $-10 pm 20i$. Hence, the solution to the homogeneous equation is:



$$I_h=C_1e^{-10t}cos(20t)+C_2e^{-10t}sin(20t)$$



To find a particular solution, I use the method of undetermined coefficients.



$$I_p=-10.080 cos(100t)+2.122 sin(100t).$$



And after finding $C_1$ and $C_2$ I have:



$$I(t)=e^{-10t}(10.080 cos(100t) -5.570 sin(20t))-10.080cos(20t)+2.122sin(20t)$$



But $I(frac{pi}{4})=0.080111$, and the answer the professor give was 10.076. Am I doing something wrong?










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  • $0.001I_h''+0.02I_h'+500I_h equiv I_h''+20I_h'+500000I_h=0$
    – Cesareo
    Nov 23 at 1:22










  • @Cesareo, it wa a mistake. Now it's fixed.
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 1:28










  • @Moo I didn't know if writing everything was crucial. I wrote cosine becuase with that form of equation is the derivate of E(t).
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 2:37












  • What did you use for the initial conditions of $I$? We know the initial charge and the initial current, so isn't it better so find $q$ first?
    – Dylan
    Nov 24 at 13:46













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I'm trying to find the current at $t=frac{pi}{4}$



The series RLC circuit has a voltage source given by $E(t)=sin(100t)$ with a capacitor of 2 F, a resistor of 0.02 ohms, and an inductor of 0.001H. If the initial current and the initial charge on the capacitor are both zero,
determine the current in the circuit for $t=frac{pi}{4}$



Based on the information given I have the equation as follows:



$$frac{d^2I}{dt^2}+20frac{dI}{dt}+500I=100000cos(100t)$$



so the homogeneous equation associated is: $r^2+20r+500=(r+10)^2+20^2=0$



whose roots are $-10 pm 20i$. Hence, the solution to the homogeneous equation is:



$$I_h=C_1e^{-10t}cos(20t)+C_2e^{-10t}sin(20t)$$



To find a particular solution, I use the method of undetermined coefficients.



$$I_p=-10.080 cos(100t)+2.122 sin(100t).$$



And after finding $C_1$ and $C_2$ I have:



$$I(t)=e^{-10t}(10.080 cos(100t) -5.570 sin(20t))-10.080cos(20t)+2.122sin(20t)$$



But $I(frac{pi}{4})=0.080111$, and the answer the professor give was 10.076. Am I doing something wrong?










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I'm trying to find the current at $t=frac{pi}{4}$



The series RLC circuit has a voltage source given by $E(t)=sin(100t)$ with a capacitor of 2 F, a resistor of 0.02 ohms, and an inductor of 0.001H. If the initial current and the initial charge on the capacitor are both zero,
determine the current in the circuit for $t=frac{pi}{4}$



Based on the information given I have the equation as follows:



$$frac{d^2I}{dt^2}+20frac{dI}{dt}+500I=100000cos(100t)$$



so the homogeneous equation associated is: $r^2+20r+500=(r+10)^2+20^2=0$



whose roots are $-10 pm 20i$. Hence, the solution to the homogeneous equation is:



$$I_h=C_1e^{-10t}cos(20t)+C_2e^{-10t}sin(20t)$$



To find a particular solution, I use the method of undetermined coefficients.



$$I_p=-10.080 cos(100t)+2.122 sin(100t).$$



And after finding $C_1$ and $C_2$ I have:



$$I(t)=e^{-10t}(10.080 cos(100t) -5.570 sin(20t))-10.080cos(20t)+2.122sin(20t)$$



But $I(frac{pi}{4})=0.080111$, and the answer the professor give was 10.076. Am I doing something wrong?







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  • $0.001I_h''+0.02I_h'+500I_h equiv I_h''+20I_h'+500000I_h=0$
    – Cesareo
    Nov 23 at 1:22










  • @Cesareo, it wa a mistake. Now it's fixed.
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 1:28










  • @Moo I didn't know if writing everything was crucial. I wrote cosine becuase with that form of equation is the derivate of E(t).
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 2:37












  • What did you use for the initial conditions of $I$? We know the initial charge and the initial current, so isn't it better so find $q$ first?
    – Dylan
    Nov 24 at 13:46


















  • $0.001I_h''+0.02I_h'+500I_h equiv I_h''+20I_h'+500000I_h=0$
    – Cesareo
    Nov 23 at 1:22










  • @Cesareo, it wa a mistake. Now it's fixed.
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 1:28










  • @Moo I didn't know if writing everything was crucial. I wrote cosine becuase with that form of equation is the derivate of E(t).
    – Lexie Walker
    Nov 23 at 2:37












  • What did you use for the initial conditions of $I$? We know the initial charge and the initial current, so isn't it better so find $q$ first?
    – Dylan
    Nov 24 at 13:46
















$0.001I_h''+0.02I_h'+500I_h equiv I_h''+20I_h'+500000I_h=0$
– Cesareo
Nov 23 at 1:22




$0.001I_h''+0.02I_h'+500I_h equiv I_h''+20I_h'+500000I_h=0$
– Cesareo
Nov 23 at 1:22












@Cesareo, it wa a mistake. Now it's fixed.
– Lexie Walker
Nov 23 at 1:28




@Cesareo, it wa a mistake. Now it's fixed.
– Lexie Walker
Nov 23 at 1:28












@Moo I didn't know if writing everything was crucial. I wrote cosine becuase with that form of equation is the derivate of E(t).
– Lexie Walker
Nov 23 at 2:37






@Moo I didn't know if writing everything was crucial. I wrote cosine becuase with that form of equation is the derivate of E(t).
– Lexie Walker
Nov 23 at 2:37














What did you use for the initial conditions of $I$? We know the initial charge and the initial current, so isn't it better so find $q$ first?
– Dylan
Nov 24 at 13:46




What did you use for the initial conditions of $I$? We know the initial charge and the initial current, so isn't it better so find $q$ first?
– Dylan
Nov 24 at 13:46










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Hint.



We have



$$
E(t) = frac 1C int_0^t i(tau)dtau+Ri(t) + Lfrac{di}{dt}
$$



or calling $int_0^t i(tau)dtau = q(t)$



$$
E(t) = frac{q}{C}+Rfrac{dq}{dt}+Lfrac{d^2q}{dt^2}
$$



Solving this DE with the initial conditions



$$
q(0) = 0\
frac{dq}{dt}(0) = 0
$$



we will obtain the desired result.



NOTE



Calling $alpha = frac{R}{2L}$ and $beta = sqrt{frac{C^2R-4L}{4L^2C}}$ we have



$$
q_h = (C_1sinbeta t+C_2cosbeta t)e^{-alpha t}
$$



and calling $E(t) = E_0cosomega t$



$$
q_p = frac{C E_0 left(left(1-C L omega ^2right) cos (omega t)+C omega R sin (omega
t)right)}{C^2 omega ^2 R^2+left(CL omega ^2-1right)^2}
$$



then



$$
q = q_h + q_p
$$



and now knowing that $i(t) = q'$ we can establish the $C_1, C_2$ constants.






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    Hint.



    We have



    $$
    E(t) = frac 1C int_0^t i(tau)dtau+Ri(t) + Lfrac{di}{dt}
    $$



    or calling $int_0^t i(tau)dtau = q(t)$



    $$
    E(t) = frac{q}{C}+Rfrac{dq}{dt}+Lfrac{d^2q}{dt^2}
    $$



    Solving this DE with the initial conditions



    $$
    q(0) = 0\
    frac{dq}{dt}(0) = 0
    $$



    we will obtain the desired result.



    NOTE



    Calling $alpha = frac{R}{2L}$ and $beta = sqrt{frac{C^2R-4L}{4L^2C}}$ we have



    $$
    q_h = (C_1sinbeta t+C_2cosbeta t)e^{-alpha t}
    $$



    and calling $E(t) = E_0cosomega t$



    $$
    q_p = frac{C E_0 left(left(1-C L omega ^2right) cos (omega t)+C omega R sin (omega
    t)right)}{C^2 omega ^2 R^2+left(CL omega ^2-1right)^2}
    $$



    then



    $$
    q = q_h + q_p
    $$



    and now knowing that $i(t) = q'$ we can establish the $C_1, C_2$ constants.






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      Hint.



      We have



      $$
      E(t) = frac 1C int_0^t i(tau)dtau+Ri(t) + Lfrac{di}{dt}
      $$



      or calling $int_0^t i(tau)dtau = q(t)$



      $$
      E(t) = frac{q}{C}+Rfrac{dq}{dt}+Lfrac{d^2q}{dt^2}
      $$



      Solving this DE with the initial conditions



      $$
      q(0) = 0\
      frac{dq}{dt}(0) = 0
      $$



      we will obtain the desired result.



      NOTE



      Calling $alpha = frac{R}{2L}$ and $beta = sqrt{frac{C^2R-4L}{4L^2C}}$ we have



      $$
      q_h = (C_1sinbeta t+C_2cosbeta t)e^{-alpha t}
      $$



      and calling $E(t) = E_0cosomega t$



      $$
      q_p = frac{C E_0 left(left(1-C L omega ^2right) cos (omega t)+C omega R sin (omega
      t)right)}{C^2 omega ^2 R^2+left(CL omega ^2-1right)^2}
      $$



      then



      $$
      q = q_h + q_p
      $$



      and now knowing that $i(t) = q'$ we can establish the $C_1, C_2$ constants.






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        Hint.



        We have



        $$
        E(t) = frac 1C int_0^t i(tau)dtau+Ri(t) + Lfrac{di}{dt}
        $$



        or calling $int_0^t i(tau)dtau = q(t)$



        $$
        E(t) = frac{q}{C}+Rfrac{dq}{dt}+Lfrac{d^2q}{dt^2}
        $$



        Solving this DE with the initial conditions



        $$
        q(0) = 0\
        frac{dq}{dt}(0) = 0
        $$



        we will obtain the desired result.



        NOTE



        Calling $alpha = frac{R}{2L}$ and $beta = sqrt{frac{C^2R-4L}{4L^2C}}$ we have



        $$
        q_h = (C_1sinbeta t+C_2cosbeta t)e^{-alpha t}
        $$



        and calling $E(t) = E_0cosomega t$



        $$
        q_p = frac{C E_0 left(left(1-C L omega ^2right) cos (omega t)+C omega R sin (omega
        t)right)}{C^2 omega ^2 R^2+left(CL omega ^2-1right)^2}
        $$



        then



        $$
        q = q_h + q_p
        $$



        and now knowing that $i(t) = q'$ we can establish the $C_1, C_2$ constants.






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        Hint.



        We have



        $$
        E(t) = frac 1C int_0^t i(tau)dtau+Ri(t) + Lfrac{di}{dt}
        $$



        or calling $int_0^t i(tau)dtau = q(t)$



        $$
        E(t) = frac{q}{C}+Rfrac{dq}{dt}+Lfrac{d^2q}{dt^2}
        $$



        Solving this DE with the initial conditions



        $$
        q(0) = 0\
        frac{dq}{dt}(0) = 0
        $$



        we will obtain the desired result.



        NOTE



        Calling $alpha = frac{R}{2L}$ and $beta = sqrt{frac{C^2R-4L}{4L^2C}}$ we have



        $$
        q_h = (C_1sinbeta t+C_2cosbeta t)e^{-alpha t}
        $$



        and calling $E(t) = E_0cosomega t$



        $$
        q_p = frac{C E_0 left(left(1-C L omega ^2right) cos (omega t)+C omega R sin (omega
        t)right)}{C^2 omega ^2 R^2+left(CL omega ^2-1right)^2}
        $$



        then



        $$
        q = q_h + q_p
        $$



        and now knowing that $i(t) = q'$ we can establish the $C_1, C_2$ constants.







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