Proving that if the dual space $X^*$ of a Banach space $X$ is separable , then $X$ is separable
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I have reading an answer post before , and there's something I do not understand .
For each $f_n$ in the unit ball of $X^*$ , why there exist $x_n in X$ with $|x_n | le1$ such that $f_n(x_n) ge frac{1}{2}$ .
I can show that for each $f_n$ , there exist $x in X$ , $f_n(x)=a neq 0$ . So let $x_n = frac{x}{a}$ , we get the inequality . But how to get the desired $x_n$ with $x_n$ also in the unit ball of $X$ ?
functional-analysis banach-spaces dual-spaces separable-spaces
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I have reading an answer post before , and there's something I do not understand .
For each $f_n$ in the unit ball of $X^*$ , why there exist $x_n in X$ with $|x_n | le1$ such that $f_n(x_n) ge frac{1}{2}$ .
I can show that for each $f_n$ , there exist $x in X$ , $f_n(x)=a neq 0$ . So let $x_n = frac{x}{a}$ , we get the inequality . But how to get the desired $x_n$ with $x_n$ also in the unit ball of $X$ ?
functional-analysis banach-spaces dual-spaces separable-spaces
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I think that both comments and the answer there explain that the proof as written there assumes that $f_n$ belong to the unit sphere, i.e., $|f_n|=1$. Using that, you can get $x_n$ such that $f_n(x_n)gefrac12$.
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– Martin Sleziak
Dec 8 '18 at 13:43
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I have reading an answer post before , and there's something I do not understand .
For each $f_n$ in the unit ball of $X^*$ , why there exist $x_n in X$ with $|x_n | le1$ such that $f_n(x_n) ge frac{1}{2}$ .
I can show that for each $f_n$ , there exist $x in X$ , $f_n(x)=a neq 0$ . So let $x_n = frac{x}{a}$ , we get the inequality . But how to get the desired $x_n$ with $x_n$ also in the unit ball of $X$ ?
functional-analysis banach-spaces dual-spaces separable-spaces
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I have reading an answer post before , and there's something I do not understand .
For each $f_n$ in the unit ball of $X^*$ , why there exist $x_n in X$ with $|x_n | le1$ such that $f_n(x_n) ge frac{1}{2}$ .
I can show that for each $f_n$ , there exist $x in X$ , $f_n(x)=a neq 0$ . So let $x_n = frac{x}{a}$ , we get the inequality . But how to get the desired $x_n$ with $x_n$ also in the unit ball of $X$ ?
functional-analysis banach-spaces dual-spaces separable-spaces
functional-analysis banach-spaces dual-spaces separable-spaces
edited Dec 8 '18 at 13:39
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I think that both comments and the answer there explain that the proof as written there assumes that $f_n$ belong to the unit sphere, i.e., $|f_n|=1$. Using that, you can get $x_n$ such that $f_n(x_n)gefrac12$.
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– Martin Sleziak
Dec 8 '18 at 13:43
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I think that both comments and the answer there explain that the proof as written there assumes that $f_n$ belong to the unit sphere, i.e., $|f_n|=1$. Using that, you can get $x_n$ such that $f_n(x_n)gefrac12$.
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– Martin Sleziak
Dec 8 '18 at 13:43
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I think that both comments and the answer there explain that the proof as written there assumes that $f_n$ belong to the unit sphere, i.e., $|f_n|=1$. Using that, you can get $x_n$ such that $f_n(x_n)gefrac12$.
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– Martin Sleziak
Dec 8 '18 at 13:43
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I think that both comments and the answer there explain that the proof as written there assumes that $f_n$ belong to the unit sphere, i.e., $|f_n|=1$. Using that, you can get $x_n$ such that $f_n(x_n)gefrac12$.
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– Martin Sleziak
Dec 8 '18 at 13:43
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That is false. It should read, the unit sphere, not the unit ball.
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
Dec 8 '18 at 13:48
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Quite right : )
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That is false. It should read, the unit sphere, not the unit ball.
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
Dec 8 '18 at 13:48
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Quite right : )
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Dec 8 '18 at 13:49
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That is false. It should read, the unit sphere, not the unit ball.
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
Dec 8 '18 at 13:48
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Quite right : )
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That is false. It should read, the unit sphere, not the unit ball.
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That is false. It should read, the unit sphere, not the unit ball.
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
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Quite right : )
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– Ben W
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
Dec 8 '18 at 13:48
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Quite right : )
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– Ben W
Dec 8 '18 at 13:49
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
Dec 8 '18 at 13:48
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Is it right that : $f $ belongs to the unit sphere means $|f | =1 $ and $f $ belongs to the unit ball means $| f | le 1$ ?
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– J.Guo
Dec 8 '18 at 13:48
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Quite right : )
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– Ben W
Dec 8 '18 at 13:49
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Quite right : )
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I think that both comments and the answer there explain that the proof as written there assumes that $f_n$ belong to the unit sphere, i.e., $|f_n|=1$. Using that, you can get $x_n$ such that $f_n(x_n)gefrac12$.
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