Differential equation - delta function
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How to solve this equation please?
$-y''+2ay'+(b^2-a^2)y=delta$
I found charakteristic roots $lambda_{1,2} = a pm sqrt{a^2+(b^2-a^2)}$.
Thank you
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How to solve this equation please?
$-y''+2ay'+(b^2-a^2)y=delta$
I found charakteristic roots $lambda_{1,2} = a pm sqrt{a^2+(b^2-a^2)}$.
Thank you
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How to solve this equation please?
$-y''+2ay'+(b^2-a^2)y=delta$
I found charakteristic roots $lambda_{1,2} = a pm sqrt{a^2+(b^2-a^2)}$.
Thank you
ordinary-differential-equations
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How to solve this equation please?
$-y''+2ay'+(b^2-a^2)y=delta$
I found charakteristic roots $lambda_{1,2} = a pm sqrt{a^2+(b^2-a^2)}$.
Thank you
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The solution has the form $y=y_0u$ where $u$ is the step function, $y_0$ a homogeneous solution with $y_0(0)=0$ and $y_0'(0)=-1$.
Also, you should simplify your expressions, $λ_{1,2}=a±b$.
Thus the solution for $y_0$ is $y_0(t)=Ce^{ax}sinh(bx)$ with
$$y_0'(x)=Ce^{ax}(asinh(bx)+bcosh(bx))implies Cb=-1, ~~C=-frac1b.$$
So that
$$
y(x)=-frac{e^{ax}sinh(bx)}b u(x)
$$
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Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
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– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
1
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Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
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– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
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@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
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– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
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There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
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– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
1
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You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
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The solution has the form $y=y_0u$ where $u$ is the step function, $y_0$ a homogeneous solution with $y_0(0)=0$ and $y_0'(0)=-1$.
Also, you should simplify your expressions, $λ_{1,2}=a±b$.
Thus the solution for $y_0$ is $y_0(t)=Ce^{ax}sinh(bx)$ with
$$y_0'(x)=Ce^{ax}(asinh(bx)+bcosh(bx))implies Cb=-1, ~~C=-frac1b.$$
So that
$$
y(x)=-frac{e^{ax}sinh(bx)}b u(x)
$$
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Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
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– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
1
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Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
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– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
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@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
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– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
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There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
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– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
1
$begingroup$
You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
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– LutzL
Jan 6 at 11:04
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
The solution has the form $y=y_0u$ where $u$ is the step function, $y_0$ a homogeneous solution with $y_0(0)=0$ and $y_0'(0)=-1$.
Also, you should simplify your expressions, $λ_{1,2}=a±b$.
Thus the solution for $y_0$ is $y_0(t)=Ce^{ax}sinh(bx)$ with
$$y_0'(x)=Ce^{ax}(asinh(bx)+bcosh(bx))implies Cb=-1, ~~C=-frac1b.$$
So that
$$
y(x)=-frac{e^{ax}sinh(bx)}b u(x)
$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
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– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
1
$begingroup$
Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
$begingroup$
@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
$begingroup$
There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
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– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
1
$begingroup$
You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 11:04
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
The solution has the form $y=y_0u$ where $u$ is the step function, $y_0$ a homogeneous solution with $y_0(0)=0$ and $y_0'(0)=-1$.
Also, you should simplify your expressions, $λ_{1,2}=a±b$.
Thus the solution for $y_0$ is $y_0(t)=Ce^{ax}sinh(bx)$ with
$$y_0'(x)=Ce^{ax}(asinh(bx)+bcosh(bx))implies Cb=-1, ~~C=-frac1b.$$
So that
$$
y(x)=-frac{e^{ax}sinh(bx)}b u(x)
$$
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The solution has the form $y=y_0u$ where $u$ is the step function, $y_0$ a homogeneous solution with $y_0(0)=0$ and $y_0'(0)=-1$.
Also, you should simplify your expressions, $λ_{1,2}=a±b$.
Thus the solution for $y_0$ is $y_0(t)=Ce^{ax}sinh(bx)$ with
$$y_0'(x)=Ce^{ax}(asinh(bx)+bcosh(bx))implies Cb=-1, ~~C=-frac1b.$$
So that
$$
y(x)=-frac{e^{ax}sinh(bx)}b u(x)
$$
edited Jan 6 at 11:12
answered Jan 6 at 9:43
LutzLLutzL
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Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
1
$begingroup$
Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
$begingroup$
@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
$begingroup$
There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
1
$begingroup$
You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 11:04
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
1
$begingroup$
Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
$begingroup$
@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
$begingroup$
There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
1
$begingroup$
You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 11:04
$begingroup$
Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
$begingroup$
Thank you, so I have $y^+ = c_1^+e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^+e^{-(a-b)x}$ for x > 0 and $y^- = c_1^-e^{-(a+b)x}+c_2^-e^{-(a-b)x}$ . What will be please the conditions of sticking?
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 9:57
1
1
$begingroup$
Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
$begingroup$
Usually, if no further information is given, the implicit condition for this type of problem is that $y(t)=0$ for $t<0$, conforming to the use of the Laplace transform for the solution. Thus $c_{1,2}^-=0$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:05
$begingroup$
@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
$begingroup$
@Elisabeth : Check again the sign in the exponential factors.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 10:09
$begingroup$
There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
$begingroup$
There should be + in the arguments of first exponentials functions. How to do Laplace transform in this equation? I can't find any solved example
$endgroup$
– Elisabeth
Jan 6 at 10:31
1
1
$begingroup$
You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 6 at 11:04
$begingroup$
You look up a Laplace table like tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Laplace_Table.aspx and apply term-by-term, $Y={cal L}[y]$ has the equation $$-(s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0))+2a(sY(s)-y(0))+(b^2-a^2)Y(s)=1,$$ then isolate $$Y(s)=-frac{1+2ay(0)-y'(0)-sy(0)}{(s-a)^2-b^2}$$ and then perform a partial fraction decomposition or if possible look up the terms for the inverse Laplace transform by reading the table backwards.
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– LutzL
Jan 6 at 11:04
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