Urgent with the continuity: Existence of directional derivatives at all directions of a $f:mathbb{R}^{2} to...
Let $f(x,y)=
begin{cases}
frac{2x^2y}{x^2+y^2} & if & (x,y) neq (0,0) \
0 & if & (x,y)=(0,0) .
end{cases}$
(i) Prove the directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$.
(ii)¿Is $f$ continuous on (0,0)?
For (i) I took $u=(u_{1},u_{2}) in mathbb{R^{2}}$ such $||u||=1$ and $0=(0,0)$. So $$lim_{t to 0} frac{f(0+ t u)-f(0)}{t}=lim_{t to 0}frac{2(tu_{1})^2 (tu_{2})}{(tu_{1})^4+(tu_{2})^2}=lim_{t to 0}frac{(t^2 u_{1}^2)(t^2 u_{1}^{2}) tu_{2}}{t^{4}u_{1}^{4}+t^{2} u_{2}^{2}}$$. But I cannot find the limit when $t$ aproaches to $0$. Which by finding them I would prove the directional derivative exist at every direction right?
For (ii) I got the intuition $f$ is not continuous at $(0,0)$ so I took $lbrace (frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ and $lbrace (frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ which are two different sequences in $mathbb{R}^{2}$ converging to $(0,0)$. However, $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}=lbrace frac{1}{k^{2}} rbrace_{n in mathbb{N}} to 0$ and $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}} to 0$. So maybe my intuition was not right? Can anyone help me end the proof of continuity or not continuity , please?
multivariable-calculus continuity
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Let $f(x,y)=
begin{cases}
frac{2x^2y}{x^2+y^2} & if & (x,y) neq (0,0) \
0 & if & (x,y)=(0,0) .
end{cases}$
(i) Prove the directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$.
(ii)¿Is $f$ continuous on (0,0)?
For (i) I took $u=(u_{1},u_{2}) in mathbb{R^{2}}$ such $||u||=1$ and $0=(0,0)$. So $$lim_{t to 0} frac{f(0+ t u)-f(0)}{t}=lim_{t to 0}frac{2(tu_{1})^2 (tu_{2})}{(tu_{1})^4+(tu_{2})^2}=lim_{t to 0}frac{(t^2 u_{1}^2)(t^2 u_{1}^{2}) tu_{2}}{t^{4}u_{1}^{4}+t^{2} u_{2}^{2}}$$. But I cannot find the limit when $t$ aproaches to $0$. Which by finding them I would prove the directional derivative exist at every direction right?
For (ii) I got the intuition $f$ is not continuous at $(0,0)$ so I took $lbrace (frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ and $lbrace (frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ which are two different sequences in $mathbb{R}^{2}$ converging to $(0,0)$. However, $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}=lbrace frac{1}{k^{2}} rbrace_{n in mathbb{N}} to 0$ and $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}} to 0$. So maybe my intuition was not right? Can anyone help me end the proof of continuity or not continuity , please?
multivariable-calculus continuity
edited Nov 26 at 9:01
Yadati Kiran
1,694519
asked Nov 25 at 5:48
Cos
1126
The powers in your very first line do not seem to match those in which you have the limits. If they were the same, you could use your user name, i.e. take $u_1=costheta$ and $u_2=sintheta$.
– marmot
Nov 25 at 5:51
1
Has not this question being asked a bazillion times? (i) Is is $x^2 + y^2$ or $x^4+y^2$ in the denominator? In the latter case, I believe there are not directional derivatives. (ii) Consider something of the form $x = sqrt{t}, y = t.$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 5:57
Is $x^{2}+y^{2}$ in the denominator? I have seen other similar functions but still cannot solve for this specific one :( .For (ii) you mean those values as sequences? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:07
By substituting $x=sqrt{t}$ and $y=t$ in $f(x,y)=f(sqrt{t}, t)$ i got $f(sqrt t, t)=1$, so How can i conclude f is not continuous at (0,0)? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:15
$f(0,0)=0$ ${}{}{}{}$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 6:47
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Let $f(x,y)=
begin{cases}
frac{2x^2y}{x^2+y^2} & if & (x,y) neq (0,0) \
0 & if & (x,y)=(0,0) .
end{cases}$
(i) Prove the directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$.
(ii)¿Is $f$ continuous on (0,0)?
For (i) I took $u=(u_{1},u_{2}) in mathbb{R^{2}}$ such $||u||=1$ and $0=(0,0)$. So $$lim_{t to 0} frac{f(0+ t u)-f(0)}{t}=lim_{t to 0}frac{2(tu_{1})^2 (tu_{2})}{(tu_{1})^4+(tu_{2})^2}=lim_{t to 0}frac{(t^2 u_{1}^2)(t^2 u_{1}^{2}) tu_{2}}{t^{4}u_{1}^{4}+t^{2} u_{2}^{2}}$$. But I cannot find the limit when $t$ aproaches to $0$. Which by finding them I would prove the directional derivative exist at every direction right?
For (ii) I got the intuition $f$ is not continuous at $(0,0)$ so I took $lbrace (frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ and $lbrace (frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ which are two different sequences in $mathbb{R}^{2}$ converging to $(0,0)$. However, $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}=lbrace frac{1}{k^{2}} rbrace_{n in mathbb{N}} to 0$ and $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}} to 0$. So maybe my intuition was not right? Can anyone help me end the proof of continuity or not continuity , please?
multivariable-calculus continuity
edited Nov 26 at 9:01
Yadati Kiran
1,694519
asked Nov 25 at 5:48
Cos
1126
Let $f(x,y)=
begin{cases}
frac{2x^2y}{x^2+y^2} & if & (x,y) neq (0,0) \
0 & if & (x,y)=(0,0) .
end{cases}$
(i) Prove the directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$.
(ii)¿Is $f$ continuous on (0,0)?
For (i) I took $u=(u_{1},u_{2}) in mathbb{R^{2}}$ such $||u||=1$ and $0=(0,0)$. So $$lim_{t to 0} frac{f(0+ t u)-f(0)}{t}=lim_{t to 0}frac{2(tu_{1})^2 (tu_{2})}{(tu_{1})^4+(tu_{2})^2}=lim_{t to 0}frac{(t^2 u_{1}^2)(t^2 u_{1}^{2}) tu_{2}}{t^{4}u_{1}^{4}+t^{2} u_{2}^{2}}$$. But I cannot find the limit when $t$ aproaches to $0$. Which by finding them I would prove the directional derivative exist at every direction right?
For (ii) I got the intuition $f$ is not continuous at $(0,0)$ so I took $lbrace (frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ and $lbrace (frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}$ which are two different sequences in $mathbb{R}^{2}$ converging to $(0,0)$. However, $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},frac{1}{k}) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}}=lbrace frac{1}{k^{2}} rbrace_{n in mathbb{N}} to 0$ and $lbrace f(frac{1}{k},0) rbrace_{k in mathbb{N}} to 0$. So maybe my intuition was not right? Can anyone help me end the proof of continuity or not continuity , please?
multivariable-calculus continuity
multivariable-calculus continuity
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Yadati Kiran
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Cos
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edited Nov 26 at 9:01
Yadati Kiran
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Yadati Kiran
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Yadati Kiran
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The powers in your very first line do not seem to match those in which you have the limits. If they were the same, you could use your user name, i.e. take $u_1=costheta$ and $u_2=sintheta$.
– marmot
Nov 25 at 5:51
1
Has not this question being asked a bazillion times? (i) Is is $x^2 + y^2$ or $x^4+y^2$ in the denominator? In the latter case, I believe there are not directional derivatives. (ii) Consider something of the form $x = sqrt{t}, y = t.$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 5:57
Is $x^{2}+y^{2}$ in the denominator? I have seen other similar functions but still cannot solve for this specific one :( .For (ii) you mean those values as sequences? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:07
By substituting $x=sqrt{t}$ and $y=t$ in $f(x,y)=f(sqrt{t}, t)$ i got $f(sqrt t, t)=1$, so How can i conclude f is not continuous at (0,0)? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:15
$f(0,0)=0$ ${}{}{}{}$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 6:47
|
show 3 more comments
The powers in your very first line do not seem to match those in which you have the limits. If they were the same, you could use your user name, i.e. take $u_1=costheta$ and $u_2=sintheta$.
– marmot
Nov 25 at 5:51
1
Has not this question being asked a bazillion times? (i) Is is $x^2 + y^2$ or $x^4+y^2$ in the denominator? In the latter case, I believe there are not directional derivatives. (ii) Consider something of the form $x = sqrt{t}, y = t.$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 5:57
Is $x^{2}+y^{2}$ in the denominator? I have seen other similar functions but still cannot solve for this specific one :( .For (ii) you mean those values as sequences? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:07
By substituting $x=sqrt{t}$ and $y=t$ in $f(x,y)=f(sqrt{t}, t)$ i got $f(sqrt t, t)=1$, so How can i conclude f is not continuous at (0,0)? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:15
$f(0,0)=0$ ${}{}{}{}$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 6:47
The powers in your very first line do not seem to match those in which you have the limits. If they were the same, you could use your user name, i.e. take $u_1=costheta$ and $u_2=sintheta$.
– marmot
Nov 25 at 5:51
The powers in your very first line do not seem to match those in which you have the limits. If they were the same, you could use your user name, i.e. take $u_1=costheta$ and $u_2=sintheta$.
– marmot
Nov 25 at 5:51
1
1
Has not this question being asked a bazillion times? (i) Is is $x^2 + y^2$ or $x^4+y^2$ in the denominator? In the latter case, I believe there are not directional derivatives. (ii) Consider something of the form $x = sqrt{t}, y = t.$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 5:57
Has not this question being asked a bazillion times? (i) Is is $x^2 + y^2$ or $x^4+y^2$ in the denominator? In the latter case, I believe there are not directional derivatives. (ii) Consider something of the form $x = sqrt{t}, y = t.$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 5:57
Is $x^{2}+y^{2}$ in the denominator? I have seen other similar functions but still cannot solve for this specific one :( .For (ii) you mean those values as sequences? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:07
Is $x^{2}+y^{2}$ in the denominator? I have seen other similar functions but still cannot solve for this specific one :( .For (ii) you mean those values as sequences? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:07
By substituting $x=sqrt{t}$ and $y=t$ in $f(x,y)=f(sqrt{t}, t)$ i got $f(sqrt t, t)=1$, so How can i conclude f is not continuous at (0,0)? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:15
By substituting $x=sqrt{t}$ and $y=t$ in $f(x,y)=f(sqrt{t}, t)$ i got $f(sqrt t, t)=1$, so How can i conclude f is not continuous at (0,0)? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:15
$f(0,0)=0$ ${}{}{}{}$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 6:47
$f(0,0)=0$ ${}{}{}{}$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 6:47
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Directional derivative is defined as $$D_vec{u}f(x,y)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{f(x+ah,y+bh)-f(x,y)}{h} $$ where $vec{u}=langle a,brangle$ is the unit vector along which rate of change of $f(x,y)$ is calculated.
$$displaystyle D_vec{u}f(0,0)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{dfrac{2(ah)^2(bh)}{(ah)^2+(bh)^2}-0}{h}= lim_{hto0}frac{2a^2b}{a^2+b^2}$$ which exists since $||vec{u}||=1implies a^2+b^2neq0$. So directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$ since limit is independent of how $h$ approaches $0$.
To calculate continuity let $(x,y)to(0,0)$ along $y=mx$ where $m$ is a constant.
$$displaystylelim_{(x,mxto(0,0))}dfrac{2x^2mx}{x^2(1+m^2)}=lim_{substack{xto 0\text{along y=mx}}}dfrac{2mx}{(1+m^2)}=0=f(0,0)$$
So $f$ is continuous at $(0,0)$.
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Directional derivative is defined as $$D_vec{u}f(x,y)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{f(x+ah,y+bh)-f(x,y)}{h} $$ where $vec{u}=langle a,brangle$ is the unit vector along which rate of change of $f(x,y)$ is calculated.
$$displaystyle D_vec{u}f(0,0)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{dfrac{2(ah)^2(bh)}{(ah)^2+(bh)^2}-0}{h}= lim_{hto0}frac{2a^2b}{a^2+b^2}$$ which exists since $||vec{u}||=1implies a^2+b^2neq0$. So directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$ since limit is independent of how $h$ approaches $0$.
To calculate continuity let $(x,y)to(0,0)$ along $y=mx$ where $m$ is a constant.
$$displaystylelim_{(x,mxto(0,0))}dfrac{2x^2mx}{x^2(1+m^2)}=lim_{substack{xto 0\text{along y=mx}}}dfrac{2mx}{(1+m^2)}=0=f(0,0)$$
So $f$ is continuous at $(0,0)$.
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Directional derivative is defined as $$D_vec{u}f(x,y)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{f(x+ah,y+bh)-f(x,y)}{h} $$ where $vec{u}=langle a,brangle$ is the unit vector along which rate of change of $f(x,y)$ is calculated.
$$displaystyle D_vec{u}f(0,0)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{dfrac{2(ah)^2(bh)}{(ah)^2+(bh)^2}-0}{h}= lim_{hto0}frac{2a^2b}{a^2+b^2}$$ which exists since $||vec{u}||=1implies a^2+b^2neq0$. So directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$ since limit is independent of how $h$ approaches $0$.
To calculate continuity let $(x,y)to(0,0)$ along $y=mx$ where $m$ is a constant.
$$displaystylelim_{(x,mxto(0,0))}dfrac{2x^2mx}{x^2(1+m^2)}=lim_{substack{xto 0\text{along y=mx}}}dfrac{2mx}{(1+m^2)}=0=f(0,0)$$
So $f$ is continuous at $(0,0)$.
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Directional derivative is defined as $$D_vec{u}f(x,y)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{f(x+ah,y+bh)-f(x,y)}{h} $$ where $vec{u}=langle a,brangle$ is the unit vector along which rate of change of $f(x,y)$ is calculated.
$$displaystyle D_vec{u}f(0,0)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{dfrac{2(ah)^2(bh)}{(ah)^2+(bh)^2}-0}{h}= lim_{hto0}frac{2a^2b}{a^2+b^2}$$ which exists since $||vec{u}||=1implies a^2+b^2neq0$. So directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$ since limit is independent of how $h$ approaches $0$.
To calculate continuity let $(x,y)to(0,0)$ along $y=mx$ where $m$ is a constant.
$$displaystylelim_{(x,mxto(0,0))}dfrac{2x^2mx}{x^2(1+m^2)}=lim_{substack{xto 0\text{along y=mx}}}dfrac{2mx}{(1+m^2)}=0=f(0,0)$$
So $f$ is continuous at $(0,0)$.
answered Nov 26 at 8:48
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Directional derivative is defined as $$D_vec{u}f(x,y)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{f(x+ah,y+bh)-f(x,y)}{h} $$ where $vec{u}=langle a,brangle$ is the unit vector along which rate of change of $f(x,y)$ is calculated.
$$displaystyle D_vec{u}f(0,0)=lim_{hto0}dfrac{dfrac{2(ah)^2(bh)}{(ah)^2+(bh)^2}-0}{h}= lim_{hto0}frac{2a^2b}{a^2+b^2}$$ which exists since $||vec{u}||=1implies a^2+b^2neq0$. So directional derivatives of $f$ exist in any direction at the point $(0,0)$ since limit is independent of how $h$ approaches $0$.
To calculate continuity let $(x,y)to(0,0)$ along $y=mx$ where $m$ is a constant.
$$displaystylelim_{(x,mxto(0,0))}dfrac{2x^2mx}{x^2(1+m^2)}=lim_{substack{xto 0\text{along y=mx}}}dfrac{2mx}{(1+m^2)}=0=f(0,0)$$
So $f$ is continuous at $(0,0)$.
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The powers in your very first line do not seem to match those in which you have the limits. If they were the same, you could use your user name, i.e. take $u_1=costheta$ and $u_2=sintheta$.
– marmot
Nov 25 at 5:51
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Has not this question being asked a bazillion times? (i) Is is $x^2 + y^2$ or $x^4+y^2$ in the denominator? In the latter case, I believe there are not directional derivatives. (ii) Consider something of the form $x = sqrt{t}, y = t.$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 5:57
Is $x^{2}+y^{2}$ in the denominator? I have seen other similar functions but still cannot solve for this specific one :( .For (ii) you mean those values as sequences? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:07
By substituting $x=sqrt{t}$ and $y=t$ in $f(x,y)=f(sqrt{t}, t)$ i got $f(sqrt t, t)=1$, so How can i conclude f is not continuous at (0,0)? @WillM.
– Cos
Nov 25 at 6:15
$f(0,0)=0$ ${}{}{}{}$
– Will M.
Nov 25 at 6:47