When was the phrase “smoke-filled room” first used in politics?





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Smoke-filled room is used in politics to mean:




a room (as in a hotel) in which a small group of politicians carry on negotiations





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The phrase originated in the U.S. to describe decision making done behind closed doors, cloaked in secrecy, and in the early 20th century, probably clouded in literal tobacco smoke.



Merriam-Webster and other sources point to 1920 as the origin date of the expression. Indeed, early uses of this that I can find phrase appear to be in reference to the 1920 Republican nomination of Warren Harding, but I can't find any text references that actually date back to 1920 or the closely subsequent years.



For example, this clipping refers to "the 'smoke-filled room' nomination of Harding."




The old guard dominated, or nearly dominated, republican conventions from that time on. Its members had much to do with the steam-rolling of Roosevelt in 1912 and the "smoke-filled room" nomination of Harding in 1920.






  • 1933 - Marshfield News-Herald (Marshfield, Wisconsin) 22 Feb. 3/3 (paywall)


Searching book and newspaper corpora, I found that most references to the phrase "smoke-filled room" in the 1920s were literally discussing fires. In the 1930s, the meaning related to politics seemed to become more prevalent than literal uses.



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Given how often this phrase is explained as a reference to the nomination of Harding, are there examples that can be found in print showing that the term itself was used at the time to describe the nomination process, or did "smoke-filled room" come to describe the nomination contemporaneously? And is it possible to tell approximately when was the term generalized to refer to private political meetings unrelated to the Harding nomination?










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  • The earliest that Ngram easily finds is 1942, but that passage hints at the expression going back to the 1920s if not the 1760s.
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Smoke-filled room is used in politics to mean:




a room (as in a hotel) in which a small group of politicians carry on negotiations





  • Merriam-Webster


The phrase originated in the U.S. to describe decision making done behind closed doors, cloaked in secrecy, and in the early 20th century, probably clouded in literal tobacco smoke.



Merriam-Webster and other sources point to 1920 as the origin date of the expression. Indeed, early uses of this that I can find phrase appear to be in reference to the 1920 Republican nomination of Warren Harding, but I can't find any text references that actually date back to 1920 or the closely subsequent years.



For example, this clipping refers to "the 'smoke-filled room' nomination of Harding."




The old guard dominated, or nearly dominated, republican conventions from that time on. Its members had much to do with the steam-rolling of Roosevelt in 1912 and the "smoke-filled room" nomination of Harding in 1920.






  • 1933 - Marshfield News-Herald (Marshfield, Wisconsin) 22 Feb. 3/3 (paywall)


Searching book and newspaper corpora, I found that most references to the phrase "smoke-filled room" in the 1920s were literally discussing fires. In the 1930s, the meaning related to politics seemed to become more prevalent than literal uses.



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Given how often this phrase is explained as a reference to the nomination of Harding, are there examples that can be found in print showing that the term itself was used at the time to describe the nomination process, or did "smoke-filled room" come to describe the nomination contemporaneously? And is it possible to tell approximately when was the term generalized to refer to private political meetings unrelated to the Harding nomination?










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  • The earliest that Ngram easily finds is 1942, but that passage hints at the expression going back to the 1920s if not the 1760s.
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Smoke-filled room is used in politics to mean:




a room (as in a hotel) in which a small group of politicians carry on negotiations





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The phrase originated in the U.S. to describe decision making done behind closed doors, cloaked in secrecy, and in the early 20th century, probably clouded in literal tobacco smoke.



Merriam-Webster and other sources point to 1920 as the origin date of the expression. Indeed, early uses of this that I can find phrase appear to be in reference to the 1920 Republican nomination of Warren Harding, but I can't find any text references that actually date back to 1920 or the closely subsequent years.



For example, this clipping refers to "the 'smoke-filled room' nomination of Harding."




The old guard dominated, or nearly dominated, republican conventions from that time on. Its members had much to do with the steam-rolling of Roosevelt in 1912 and the "smoke-filled room" nomination of Harding in 1920.






  • 1933 - Marshfield News-Herald (Marshfield, Wisconsin) 22 Feb. 3/3 (paywall)


Searching book and newspaper corpora, I found that most references to the phrase "smoke-filled room" in the 1920s were literally discussing fires. In the 1930s, the meaning related to politics seemed to become more prevalent than literal uses.



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Given how often this phrase is explained as a reference to the nomination of Harding, are there examples that can be found in print showing that the term itself was used at the time to describe the nomination process, or did "smoke-filled room" come to describe the nomination contemporaneously? And is it possible to tell approximately when was the term generalized to refer to private political meetings unrelated to the Harding nomination?










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Smoke-filled room is used in politics to mean:




a room (as in a hotel) in which a small group of politicians carry on negotiations





  • Merriam-Webster


The phrase originated in the U.S. to describe decision making done behind closed doors, cloaked in secrecy, and in the early 20th century, probably clouded in literal tobacco smoke.



Merriam-Webster and other sources point to 1920 as the origin date of the expression. Indeed, early uses of this that I can find phrase appear to be in reference to the 1920 Republican nomination of Warren Harding, but I can't find any text references that actually date back to 1920 or the closely subsequent years.



For example, this clipping refers to "the 'smoke-filled room' nomination of Harding."




The old guard dominated, or nearly dominated, republican conventions from that time on. Its members had much to do with the steam-rolling of Roosevelt in 1912 and the "smoke-filled room" nomination of Harding in 1920.






  • 1933 - Marshfield News-Herald (Marshfield, Wisconsin) 22 Feb. 3/3 (paywall)


Searching book and newspaper corpora, I found that most references to the phrase "smoke-filled room" in the 1920s were literally discussing fires. In the 1930s, the meaning related to politics seemed to become more prevalent than literal uses.



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Given how often this phrase is explained as a reference to the nomination of Harding, are there examples that can be found in print showing that the term itself was used at the time to describe the nomination process, or did "smoke-filled room" come to describe the nomination contemporaneously? And is it possible to tell approximately when was the term generalized to refer to private political meetings unrelated to the Harding nomination?







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  • The earliest that Ngram easily finds is 1942, but that passage hints at the expression going back to the 1920s if not the 1760s.
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  • The earliest that Ngram easily finds is 1942, but that passage hints at the expression going back to the 1920s if not the 1760s.
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The earliest that Ngram easily finds is 1942, but that passage hints at the expression going back to the 1920s if not the 1760s.
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The earliest that Ngram easily finds is 1942, but that passage hints at the expression going back to the 1920s if not the 1760s.
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The 'smoke-filled room' of US politics, wherein the will of the people and so democracy itself is subverted by the machinations of unelected power brokers in private negotiations, became an emblem of that process after Harry Daugherty, Warren G. Harding's political manager during the build-up to the latter's successful 1920 US presidential run, made a prediction that the Republican nomination would be decided in such a room. According to Leonard Wood, who would later be Harding's chief competitor for the 1920 Republican presidential nomination, as quoted in an article datelined "Special to the New York Times", "Cleveland, Ohio, April 1" (The New York Times 02 Apr 1920, emphasis mine, paywalled),




The favorite son plan has been one which has always placed a limitation upon the choice of the people and has played directly into the hands of the worst form of machine politics. It has resulted often in bringing about in the States what a distinguished political leader recently said in Washington would be done in the 1920 Presidential nomination, namely, that about 2:11 A. M. the nomination would be settled by fifteen or twenty tired men sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room behind locked doors. We want no more of this in this country. We want the will of the people as expressed at the polls embodied in the choice made at the convention. When the time comes that fifteen or twenty men can gather in a smoke-filled room and settle the Presidency, may God pity us! No one else will.




Although Daugherty was not named in that article, nor in any of the subsequent versions of it I could find printed prior to the 8-12 June 1920 Republican convention (for example, 11 Apr 1920, The Lincoln Star, Lincoln, Nebraska [paywalled]; 16 Apr 1920, The Alliance Herald, Alliance, Nebraska [not paywalled]), an article in the 15 June 1920 Virginia Chronicle (Roanoke, Virginia; not paywalled), datelined "Chicago, June 14", makes the connection explicit:




Harry Daugherty made a mistake. Three months ago as campaign manager for Warren G. Harding, he predicted that about 2:11 a. m. "in a smoke-filled room" on a certain night during the Republican national convention, the next nominee would be chosen. His mistake was on the time — it was 3:11 a. m.






Before Daughterty's self-aggrandizing and, to an extent, self-fulfilling prediction, the 'smoke-filled' room had been an emblem in search of an attachment. Apart from uses referring to structure fires, the phrase appeared in political, judicial (as a description of the jury room), and other contexts. Two of those uses from 1919 merit quoting at length:




Senator Reed, alleged democrat, of Missouri, seemed to be very proud of the fact that he helped the republicans and Senator Gore in killing the peace treaty. The Washington correspondent of the New York Evening Post, after giving a vivid description of the scene in the senate when the final fight was made over the peace treaty — the jesting of the republicans and the solemnity of the democrats, battling for peace in the hazy atmosphere of the smoke-filled room — draws a final word picture of the climax, with "Senator Jim Reed standing in the center of the floor with Reed's arm resting on Lodge's shoulder." What a fine picture this would make to adorn the homes of admiring Huns!



The Daily Oklahoman (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) 30 Nov 1919, paywalled.



At dawn thousands of citizens had emerged from hotels and lodging houses or walked in from residential districts, while haggard city, federal and strike representatives came from smoke-filled rooms after an all-night vigil.



Lebanon Daily News (Lebanon, Pennsylvania) 08 Feb 1919, paywalled.




Similar uses appear sporadically in the popular news from at least as early as 1911.






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    smoke filled from etymonline.com




    Meaning "filled with smoke" and meaning "resembling smoke" are from
    late 14c.




    A smoke filled room in politics, 1920: Encyclopedia of Chicago




    The original smoke filled room was in Chicago's Blackstone Hotel,
    where, according to an enduring legend, a small group of powerful
    United States senators gathered to arrange the nomination of Warren G.
    Harding as Republican candidate for president in 1920.




    This the earliest I could find with a definite reference to politics, as you also referenced. As with 'smoke and mirrors' I believe the figurative use came to mean duplicitous political machinations behind the scenes, with or without the smoke.



    And from TDF, the idiom:



    a smoke-filled room




    COMMON If someone says that a political or business decision is made
    in a smoke-filled room, they mean that it is made by a small group of
    people in a private meeting, rather than in a more democratic or open
    way. We're not going to see a return to the smoke-filled room, in
    which a few ministers and company bosses made all the decisions. Note:
    This was first used to refer to the suite in the Blackstone Hotel in
    Chicago where Warren Harding was chosen as the Republican presidential
    candidate in 1920.







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      The phrase smoke-filled room was used to describe a drinking establishment that wasn't well ventilated (and before that, the interior of a building on fire), so the extension to party meetings is pretty straightforward:




      1893: At times Maggie told Pete long confidential tales of her former home life, dwelling upon the escapades of the other members of
      the family and the difficulties she had to combat in order to obtain a
      degree of comfort. He responded in tones of philanthropy. He pressed
      her arm with an air of reassuring proprietorship. " Dey was damn jays,
      " he said, denouncing the mother and brother. The sound of the music
      which, by the efforts of the frowsy- headed leader, drifted to her
      ears through the smoke-filled atmosphere, made the girl dream. She
      thought of her former Rum Alley environment and turned to regard
      Pete's strong protecting fists. She thought of the collar and cuff
      manufactory and the eternal moan of the proprietor: " What een hell do
      you sink I pie fife dolla a week for? Play? No, py damn. " She
      contemplated Pete's man-subduing eyes and noted that wealth and
      prosperity was indicated by his clothes.




      .




      1902: In his smoke-filled, untidy best room Darden sat at table, his drink beside him, his pipe between his fingers, and open before
      him a book of jests, propped by a tome of divinity. His wife coming in
      from the kitchen, he burrowed in the litter upon the table until he
      found an open letter, which he flung toward her. " The Commissary
      threatens again, damn him! "




      .




      1948: I have no particular views on Carlisle: I have never been to Carlisle, and never seen these State-managed houses in operation: Only
      one comment I would permit myself on the speech of the hon: Member for
      Carlisle (Mr: Grierson): He referred to the large, well-ventilated
      rooms found in Carlisle public houses: Many of my constituents, I am
      afraid, prefer to do their drinking in small, smoke-filled rooms, and
      I have no objection to their doing so, if they wish




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      • There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
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      The 'smoke-filled room' of US politics, wherein the will of the people and so democracy itself is subverted by the machinations of unelected power brokers in private negotiations, became an emblem of that process after Harry Daugherty, Warren G. Harding's political manager during the build-up to the latter's successful 1920 US presidential run, made a prediction that the Republican nomination would be decided in such a room. According to Leonard Wood, who would later be Harding's chief competitor for the 1920 Republican presidential nomination, as quoted in an article datelined "Special to the New York Times", "Cleveland, Ohio, April 1" (The New York Times 02 Apr 1920, emphasis mine, paywalled),




      The favorite son plan has been one which has always placed a limitation upon the choice of the people and has played directly into the hands of the worst form of machine politics. It has resulted often in bringing about in the States what a distinguished political leader recently said in Washington would be done in the 1920 Presidential nomination, namely, that about 2:11 A. M. the nomination would be settled by fifteen or twenty tired men sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room behind locked doors. We want no more of this in this country. We want the will of the people as expressed at the polls embodied in the choice made at the convention. When the time comes that fifteen or twenty men can gather in a smoke-filled room and settle the Presidency, may God pity us! No one else will.




      Although Daugherty was not named in that article, nor in any of the subsequent versions of it I could find printed prior to the 8-12 June 1920 Republican convention (for example, 11 Apr 1920, The Lincoln Star, Lincoln, Nebraska [paywalled]; 16 Apr 1920, The Alliance Herald, Alliance, Nebraska [not paywalled]), an article in the 15 June 1920 Virginia Chronicle (Roanoke, Virginia; not paywalled), datelined "Chicago, June 14", makes the connection explicit:




      Harry Daugherty made a mistake. Three months ago as campaign manager for Warren G. Harding, he predicted that about 2:11 a. m. "in a smoke-filled room" on a certain night during the Republican national convention, the next nominee would be chosen. His mistake was on the time — it was 3:11 a. m.






      Before Daughterty's self-aggrandizing and, to an extent, self-fulfilling prediction, the 'smoke-filled' room had been an emblem in search of an attachment. Apart from uses referring to structure fires, the phrase appeared in political, judicial (as a description of the jury room), and other contexts. Two of those uses from 1919 merit quoting at length:




      Senator Reed, alleged democrat, of Missouri, seemed to be very proud of the fact that he helped the republicans and Senator Gore in killing the peace treaty. The Washington correspondent of the New York Evening Post, after giving a vivid description of the scene in the senate when the final fight was made over the peace treaty — the jesting of the republicans and the solemnity of the democrats, battling for peace in the hazy atmosphere of the smoke-filled room — draws a final word picture of the climax, with "Senator Jim Reed standing in the center of the floor with Reed's arm resting on Lodge's shoulder." What a fine picture this would make to adorn the homes of admiring Huns!



      The Daily Oklahoman (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) 30 Nov 1919, paywalled.



      At dawn thousands of citizens had emerged from hotels and lodging houses or walked in from residential districts, while haggard city, federal and strike representatives came from smoke-filled rooms after an all-night vigil.



      Lebanon Daily News (Lebanon, Pennsylvania) 08 Feb 1919, paywalled.




      Similar uses appear sporadically in the popular news from at least as early as 1911.






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        The 'smoke-filled room' of US politics, wherein the will of the people and so democracy itself is subverted by the machinations of unelected power brokers in private negotiations, became an emblem of that process after Harry Daugherty, Warren G. Harding's political manager during the build-up to the latter's successful 1920 US presidential run, made a prediction that the Republican nomination would be decided in such a room. According to Leonard Wood, who would later be Harding's chief competitor for the 1920 Republican presidential nomination, as quoted in an article datelined "Special to the New York Times", "Cleveland, Ohio, April 1" (The New York Times 02 Apr 1920, emphasis mine, paywalled),




        The favorite son plan has been one which has always placed a limitation upon the choice of the people and has played directly into the hands of the worst form of machine politics. It has resulted often in bringing about in the States what a distinguished political leader recently said in Washington would be done in the 1920 Presidential nomination, namely, that about 2:11 A. M. the nomination would be settled by fifteen or twenty tired men sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room behind locked doors. We want no more of this in this country. We want the will of the people as expressed at the polls embodied in the choice made at the convention. When the time comes that fifteen or twenty men can gather in a smoke-filled room and settle the Presidency, may God pity us! No one else will.




        Although Daugherty was not named in that article, nor in any of the subsequent versions of it I could find printed prior to the 8-12 June 1920 Republican convention (for example, 11 Apr 1920, The Lincoln Star, Lincoln, Nebraska [paywalled]; 16 Apr 1920, The Alliance Herald, Alliance, Nebraska [not paywalled]), an article in the 15 June 1920 Virginia Chronicle (Roanoke, Virginia; not paywalled), datelined "Chicago, June 14", makes the connection explicit:




        Harry Daugherty made a mistake. Three months ago as campaign manager for Warren G. Harding, he predicted that about 2:11 a. m. "in a smoke-filled room" on a certain night during the Republican national convention, the next nominee would be chosen. His mistake was on the time — it was 3:11 a. m.






        Before Daughterty's self-aggrandizing and, to an extent, self-fulfilling prediction, the 'smoke-filled' room had been an emblem in search of an attachment. Apart from uses referring to structure fires, the phrase appeared in political, judicial (as a description of the jury room), and other contexts. Two of those uses from 1919 merit quoting at length:




        Senator Reed, alleged democrat, of Missouri, seemed to be very proud of the fact that he helped the republicans and Senator Gore in killing the peace treaty. The Washington correspondent of the New York Evening Post, after giving a vivid description of the scene in the senate when the final fight was made over the peace treaty — the jesting of the republicans and the solemnity of the democrats, battling for peace in the hazy atmosphere of the smoke-filled room — draws a final word picture of the climax, with "Senator Jim Reed standing in the center of the floor with Reed's arm resting on Lodge's shoulder." What a fine picture this would make to adorn the homes of admiring Huns!



        The Daily Oklahoman (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) 30 Nov 1919, paywalled.



        At dawn thousands of citizens had emerged from hotels and lodging houses or walked in from residential districts, while haggard city, federal and strike representatives came from smoke-filled rooms after an all-night vigil.



        Lebanon Daily News (Lebanon, Pennsylvania) 08 Feb 1919, paywalled.




        Similar uses appear sporadically in the popular news from at least as early as 1911.






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          The 'smoke-filled room' of US politics, wherein the will of the people and so democracy itself is subverted by the machinations of unelected power brokers in private negotiations, became an emblem of that process after Harry Daugherty, Warren G. Harding's political manager during the build-up to the latter's successful 1920 US presidential run, made a prediction that the Republican nomination would be decided in such a room. According to Leonard Wood, who would later be Harding's chief competitor for the 1920 Republican presidential nomination, as quoted in an article datelined "Special to the New York Times", "Cleveland, Ohio, April 1" (The New York Times 02 Apr 1920, emphasis mine, paywalled),




          The favorite son plan has been one which has always placed a limitation upon the choice of the people and has played directly into the hands of the worst form of machine politics. It has resulted often in bringing about in the States what a distinguished political leader recently said in Washington would be done in the 1920 Presidential nomination, namely, that about 2:11 A. M. the nomination would be settled by fifteen or twenty tired men sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room behind locked doors. We want no more of this in this country. We want the will of the people as expressed at the polls embodied in the choice made at the convention. When the time comes that fifteen or twenty men can gather in a smoke-filled room and settle the Presidency, may God pity us! No one else will.




          Although Daugherty was not named in that article, nor in any of the subsequent versions of it I could find printed prior to the 8-12 June 1920 Republican convention (for example, 11 Apr 1920, The Lincoln Star, Lincoln, Nebraska [paywalled]; 16 Apr 1920, The Alliance Herald, Alliance, Nebraska [not paywalled]), an article in the 15 June 1920 Virginia Chronicle (Roanoke, Virginia; not paywalled), datelined "Chicago, June 14", makes the connection explicit:




          Harry Daugherty made a mistake. Three months ago as campaign manager for Warren G. Harding, he predicted that about 2:11 a. m. "in a smoke-filled room" on a certain night during the Republican national convention, the next nominee would be chosen. His mistake was on the time — it was 3:11 a. m.






          Before Daughterty's self-aggrandizing and, to an extent, self-fulfilling prediction, the 'smoke-filled' room had been an emblem in search of an attachment. Apart from uses referring to structure fires, the phrase appeared in political, judicial (as a description of the jury room), and other contexts. Two of those uses from 1919 merit quoting at length:




          Senator Reed, alleged democrat, of Missouri, seemed to be very proud of the fact that he helped the republicans and Senator Gore in killing the peace treaty. The Washington correspondent of the New York Evening Post, after giving a vivid description of the scene in the senate when the final fight was made over the peace treaty — the jesting of the republicans and the solemnity of the democrats, battling for peace in the hazy atmosphere of the smoke-filled room — draws a final word picture of the climax, with "Senator Jim Reed standing in the center of the floor with Reed's arm resting on Lodge's shoulder." What a fine picture this would make to adorn the homes of admiring Huns!



          The Daily Oklahoman (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) 30 Nov 1919, paywalled.



          At dawn thousands of citizens had emerged from hotels and lodging houses or walked in from residential districts, while haggard city, federal and strike representatives came from smoke-filled rooms after an all-night vigil.



          Lebanon Daily News (Lebanon, Pennsylvania) 08 Feb 1919, paywalled.




          Similar uses appear sporadically in the popular news from at least as early as 1911.






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          The 'smoke-filled room' of US politics, wherein the will of the people and so democracy itself is subverted by the machinations of unelected power brokers in private negotiations, became an emblem of that process after Harry Daugherty, Warren G. Harding's political manager during the build-up to the latter's successful 1920 US presidential run, made a prediction that the Republican nomination would be decided in such a room. According to Leonard Wood, who would later be Harding's chief competitor for the 1920 Republican presidential nomination, as quoted in an article datelined "Special to the New York Times", "Cleveland, Ohio, April 1" (The New York Times 02 Apr 1920, emphasis mine, paywalled),




          The favorite son plan has been one which has always placed a limitation upon the choice of the people and has played directly into the hands of the worst form of machine politics. It has resulted often in bringing about in the States what a distinguished political leader recently said in Washington would be done in the 1920 Presidential nomination, namely, that about 2:11 A. M. the nomination would be settled by fifteen or twenty tired men sitting around a table in a smoke-filled room behind locked doors. We want no more of this in this country. We want the will of the people as expressed at the polls embodied in the choice made at the convention. When the time comes that fifteen or twenty men can gather in a smoke-filled room and settle the Presidency, may God pity us! No one else will.




          Although Daugherty was not named in that article, nor in any of the subsequent versions of it I could find printed prior to the 8-12 June 1920 Republican convention (for example, 11 Apr 1920, The Lincoln Star, Lincoln, Nebraska [paywalled]; 16 Apr 1920, The Alliance Herald, Alliance, Nebraska [not paywalled]), an article in the 15 June 1920 Virginia Chronicle (Roanoke, Virginia; not paywalled), datelined "Chicago, June 14", makes the connection explicit:




          Harry Daugherty made a mistake. Three months ago as campaign manager for Warren G. Harding, he predicted that about 2:11 a. m. "in a smoke-filled room" on a certain night during the Republican national convention, the next nominee would be chosen. His mistake was on the time — it was 3:11 a. m.






          Before Daughterty's self-aggrandizing and, to an extent, self-fulfilling prediction, the 'smoke-filled' room had been an emblem in search of an attachment. Apart from uses referring to structure fires, the phrase appeared in political, judicial (as a description of the jury room), and other contexts. Two of those uses from 1919 merit quoting at length:




          Senator Reed, alleged democrat, of Missouri, seemed to be very proud of the fact that he helped the republicans and Senator Gore in killing the peace treaty. The Washington correspondent of the New York Evening Post, after giving a vivid description of the scene in the senate when the final fight was made over the peace treaty — the jesting of the republicans and the solemnity of the democrats, battling for peace in the hazy atmosphere of the smoke-filled room — draws a final word picture of the climax, with "Senator Jim Reed standing in the center of the floor with Reed's arm resting on Lodge's shoulder." What a fine picture this would make to adorn the homes of admiring Huns!



          The Daily Oklahoman (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) 30 Nov 1919, paywalled.



          At dawn thousands of citizens had emerged from hotels and lodging houses or walked in from residential districts, while haggard city, federal and strike representatives came from smoke-filled rooms after an all-night vigil.



          Lebanon Daily News (Lebanon, Pennsylvania) 08 Feb 1919, paywalled.




          Similar uses appear sporadically in the popular news from at least as early as 1911.







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              smoke filled from etymonline.com




              Meaning "filled with smoke" and meaning "resembling smoke" are from
              late 14c.




              A smoke filled room in politics, 1920: Encyclopedia of Chicago




              The original smoke filled room was in Chicago's Blackstone Hotel,
              where, according to an enduring legend, a small group of powerful
              United States senators gathered to arrange the nomination of Warren G.
              Harding as Republican candidate for president in 1920.




              This the earliest I could find with a definite reference to politics, as you also referenced. As with 'smoke and mirrors' I believe the figurative use came to mean duplicitous political machinations behind the scenes, with or without the smoke.



              And from TDF, the idiom:



              a smoke-filled room




              COMMON If someone says that a political or business decision is made
              in a smoke-filled room, they mean that it is made by a small group of
              people in a private meeting, rather than in a more democratic or open
              way. We're not going to see a return to the smoke-filled room, in
              which a few ministers and company bosses made all the decisions. Note:
              This was first used to refer to the suite in the Blackstone Hotel in
              Chicago where Warren Harding was chosen as the Republican presidential
              candidate in 1920.







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                smoke filled from etymonline.com




                Meaning "filled with smoke" and meaning "resembling smoke" are from
                late 14c.




                A smoke filled room in politics, 1920: Encyclopedia of Chicago




                The original smoke filled room was in Chicago's Blackstone Hotel,
                where, according to an enduring legend, a small group of powerful
                United States senators gathered to arrange the nomination of Warren G.
                Harding as Republican candidate for president in 1920.




                This the earliest I could find with a definite reference to politics, as you also referenced. As with 'smoke and mirrors' I believe the figurative use came to mean duplicitous political machinations behind the scenes, with or without the smoke.



                And from TDF, the idiom:



                a smoke-filled room




                COMMON If someone says that a political or business decision is made
                in a smoke-filled room, they mean that it is made by a small group of
                people in a private meeting, rather than in a more democratic or open
                way. We're not going to see a return to the smoke-filled room, in
                which a few ministers and company bosses made all the decisions. Note:
                This was first used to refer to the suite in the Blackstone Hotel in
                Chicago where Warren Harding was chosen as the Republican presidential
                candidate in 1920.







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                  smoke filled from etymonline.com




                  Meaning "filled with smoke" and meaning "resembling smoke" are from
                  late 14c.




                  A smoke filled room in politics, 1920: Encyclopedia of Chicago




                  The original smoke filled room was in Chicago's Blackstone Hotel,
                  where, according to an enduring legend, a small group of powerful
                  United States senators gathered to arrange the nomination of Warren G.
                  Harding as Republican candidate for president in 1920.




                  This the earliest I could find with a definite reference to politics, as you also referenced. As with 'smoke and mirrors' I believe the figurative use came to mean duplicitous political machinations behind the scenes, with or without the smoke.



                  And from TDF, the idiom:



                  a smoke-filled room




                  COMMON If someone says that a political or business decision is made
                  in a smoke-filled room, they mean that it is made by a small group of
                  people in a private meeting, rather than in a more democratic or open
                  way. We're not going to see a return to the smoke-filled room, in
                  which a few ministers and company bosses made all the decisions. Note:
                  This was first used to refer to the suite in the Blackstone Hotel in
                  Chicago where Warren Harding was chosen as the Republican presidential
                  candidate in 1920.







                  share|improve this answer














                  smoke filled from etymonline.com




                  Meaning "filled with smoke" and meaning "resembling smoke" are from
                  late 14c.




                  A smoke filled room in politics, 1920: Encyclopedia of Chicago




                  The original smoke filled room was in Chicago's Blackstone Hotel,
                  where, according to an enduring legend, a small group of powerful
                  United States senators gathered to arrange the nomination of Warren G.
                  Harding as Republican candidate for president in 1920.




                  This the earliest I could find with a definite reference to politics, as you also referenced. As with 'smoke and mirrors' I believe the figurative use came to mean duplicitous political machinations behind the scenes, with or without the smoke.



                  And from TDF, the idiom:



                  a smoke-filled room




                  COMMON If someone says that a political or business decision is made
                  in a smoke-filled room, they mean that it is made by a small group of
                  people in a private meeting, rather than in a more democratic or open
                  way. We're not going to see a return to the smoke-filled room, in
                  which a few ministers and company bosses made all the decisions. Note:
                  This was first used to refer to the suite in the Blackstone Hotel in
                  Chicago where Warren Harding was chosen as the Republican presidential
                  candidate in 1920.








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                      The phrase smoke-filled room was used to describe a drinking establishment that wasn't well ventilated (and before that, the interior of a building on fire), so the extension to party meetings is pretty straightforward:




                      1893: At times Maggie told Pete long confidential tales of her former home life, dwelling upon the escapades of the other members of
                      the family and the difficulties she had to combat in order to obtain a
                      degree of comfort. He responded in tones of philanthropy. He pressed
                      her arm with an air of reassuring proprietorship. " Dey was damn jays,
                      " he said, denouncing the mother and brother. The sound of the music
                      which, by the efforts of the frowsy- headed leader, drifted to her
                      ears through the smoke-filled atmosphere, made the girl dream. She
                      thought of her former Rum Alley environment and turned to regard
                      Pete's strong protecting fists. She thought of the collar and cuff
                      manufactory and the eternal moan of the proprietor: " What een hell do
                      you sink I pie fife dolla a week for? Play? No, py damn. " She
                      contemplated Pete's man-subduing eyes and noted that wealth and
                      prosperity was indicated by his clothes.




                      .




                      1902: In his smoke-filled, untidy best room Darden sat at table, his drink beside him, his pipe between his fingers, and open before
                      him a book of jests, propped by a tome of divinity. His wife coming in
                      from the kitchen, he burrowed in the litter upon the table until he
                      found an open letter, which he flung toward her. " The Commissary
                      threatens again, damn him! "




                      .




                      1948: I have no particular views on Carlisle: I have never been to Carlisle, and never seen these State-managed houses in operation: Only
                      one comment I would permit myself on the speech of the hon: Member for
                      Carlisle (Mr: Grierson): He referred to the large, well-ventilated
                      rooms found in Carlisle public houses: Many of my constituents, I am
                      afraid, prefer to do their drinking in small, smoke-filled rooms, and
                      I have no objection to their doing so, if they wish




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                      • There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
                        – J. Taylor
                        2 days ago















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                      The phrase smoke-filled room was used to describe a drinking establishment that wasn't well ventilated (and before that, the interior of a building on fire), so the extension to party meetings is pretty straightforward:




                      1893: At times Maggie told Pete long confidential tales of her former home life, dwelling upon the escapades of the other members of
                      the family and the difficulties she had to combat in order to obtain a
                      degree of comfort. He responded in tones of philanthropy. He pressed
                      her arm with an air of reassuring proprietorship. " Dey was damn jays,
                      " he said, denouncing the mother and brother. The sound of the music
                      which, by the efforts of the frowsy- headed leader, drifted to her
                      ears through the smoke-filled atmosphere, made the girl dream. She
                      thought of her former Rum Alley environment and turned to regard
                      Pete's strong protecting fists. She thought of the collar and cuff
                      manufactory and the eternal moan of the proprietor: " What een hell do
                      you sink I pie fife dolla a week for? Play? No, py damn. " She
                      contemplated Pete's man-subduing eyes and noted that wealth and
                      prosperity was indicated by his clothes.




                      .




                      1902: In his smoke-filled, untidy best room Darden sat at table, his drink beside him, his pipe between his fingers, and open before
                      him a book of jests, propped by a tome of divinity. His wife coming in
                      from the kitchen, he burrowed in the litter upon the table until he
                      found an open letter, which he flung toward her. " The Commissary
                      threatens again, damn him! "




                      .




                      1948: I have no particular views on Carlisle: I have never been to Carlisle, and never seen these State-managed houses in operation: Only
                      one comment I would permit myself on the speech of the hon: Member for
                      Carlisle (Mr: Grierson): He referred to the large, well-ventilated
                      rooms found in Carlisle public houses: Many of my constituents, I am
                      afraid, prefer to do their drinking in small, smoke-filled rooms, and
                      I have no objection to their doing so, if they wish




                      :






                      share|improve this answer





















                      • There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
                        – J. Taylor
                        2 days ago













                      up vote
                      4
                      down vote










                      up vote
                      4
                      down vote









                      The phrase smoke-filled room was used to describe a drinking establishment that wasn't well ventilated (and before that, the interior of a building on fire), so the extension to party meetings is pretty straightforward:




                      1893: At times Maggie told Pete long confidential tales of her former home life, dwelling upon the escapades of the other members of
                      the family and the difficulties she had to combat in order to obtain a
                      degree of comfort. He responded in tones of philanthropy. He pressed
                      her arm with an air of reassuring proprietorship. " Dey was damn jays,
                      " he said, denouncing the mother and brother. The sound of the music
                      which, by the efforts of the frowsy- headed leader, drifted to her
                      ears through the smoke-filled atmosphere, made the girl dream. She
                      thought of her former Rum Alley environment and turned to regard
                      Pete's strong protecting fists. She thought of the collar and cuff
                      manufactory and the eternal moan of the proprietor: " What een hell do
                      you sink I pie fife dolla a week for? Play? No, py damn. " She
                      contemplated Pete's man-subduing eyes and noted that wealth and
                      prosperity was indicated by his clothes.




                      .




                      1902: In his smoke-filled, untidy best room Darden sat at table, his drink beside him, his pipe between his fingers, and open before
                      him a book of jests, propped by a tome of divinity. His wife coming in
                      from the kitchen, he burrowed in the litter upon the table until he
                      found an open letter, which he flung toward her. " The Commissary
                      threatens again, damn him! "




                      .




                      1948: I have no particular views on Carlisle: I have never been to Carlisle, and never seen these State-managed houses in operation: Only
                      one comment I would permit myself on the speech of the hon: Member for
                      Carlisle (Mr: Grierson): He referred to the large, well-ventilated
                      rooms found in Carlisle public houses: Many of my constituents, I am
                      afraid, prefer to do their drinking in small, smoke-filled rooms, and
                      I have no objection to their doing so, if they wish




                      :






                      share|improve this answer












                      The phrase smoke-filled room was used to describe a drinking establishment that wasn't well ventilated (and before that, the interior of a building on fire), so the extension to party meetings is pretty straightforward:




                      1893: At times Maggie told Pete long confidential tales of her former home life, dwelling upon the escapades of the other members of
                      the family and the difficulties she had to combat in order to obtain a
                      degree of comfort. He responded in tones of philanthropy. He pressed
                      her arm with an air of reassuring proprietorship. " Dey was damn jays,
                      " he said, denouncing the mother and brother. The sound of the music
                      which, by the efforts of the frowsy- headed leader, drifted to her
                      ears through the smoke-filled atmosphere, made the girl dream. She
                      thought of her former Rum Alley environment and turned to regard
                      Pete's strong protecting fists. She thought of the collar and cuff
                      manufactory and the eternal moan of the proprietor: " What een hell do
                      you sink I pie fife dolla a week for? Play? No, py damn. " She
                      contemplated Pete's man-subduing eyes and noted that wealth and
                      prosperity was indicated by his clothes.




                      .




                      1902: In his smoke-filled, untidy best room Darden sat at table, his drink beside him, his pipe between his fingers, and open before
                      him a book of jests, propped by a tome of divinity. His wife coming in
                      from the kitchen, he burrowed in the litter upon the table until he
                      found an open letter, which he flung toward her. " The Commissary
                      threatens again, damn him! "




                      .




                      1948: I have no particular views on Carlisle: I have never been to Carlisle, and never seen these State-managed houses in operation: Only
                      one comment I would permit myself on the speech of the hon: Member for
                      Carlisle (Mr: Grierson): He referred to the large, well-ventilated
                      rooms found in Carlisle public houses: Many of my constituents, I am
                      afraid, prefer to do their drinking in small, smoke-filled rooms, and
                      I have no objection to their doing so, if they wish




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                      • There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
                        – J. Taylor
                        2 days ago


















                      • There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
                        – J. Taylor
                        2 days ago
















                      There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
                      – J. Taylor
                      2 days ago




                      There has been speculation that the term came from the "Loco-Focos" faction of the US Democratic Party in the 1830's-40's. It is a long story that I do not care to try to relate, but is possible.
                      – J. Taylor
                      2 days ago


















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