Peetre's Inequality - not strict?
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(Peetre's inequality)
Let $x,y in Bbb R^n$ and $s in Bbb R$. Then
$$ frac{(1+|x|^2)^s}{(1+|y|^2)^s} le 2^{|s|} (1+|x-y|^2)^{|s|}.$$
Proof: By switching roles of $x,y$ we may suppose $s ge 0$, and taking $s$th root may assume $s=1$. Then the argument i found online:
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2(x-y)y \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& le 2(1+|y|^2 + |x-y|^2 +|y|^2|x-y|^2 ) \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
What I don't understand is that on the third inequality, isn't this clearly a strict inequality when $snot= 0$? (at least by 1)
real-analysis functional-analysis ordinary-differential-equations inequality
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(Peetre's inequality)
Let $x,y in Bbb R^n$ and $s in Bbb R$. Then
$$ frac{(1+|x|^2)^s}{(1+|y|^2)^s} le 2^{|s|} (1+|x-y|^2)^{|s|}.$$
Proof: By switching roles of $x,y$ we may suppose $s ge 0$, and taking $s$th root may assume $s=1$. Then the argument i found online:
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2(x-y)y \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& le 2(1+|y|^2 + |x-y|^2 +|y|^2|x-y|^2 ) \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
What I don't understand is that on the third inequality, isn't this clearly a strict inequality when $snot= 0$? (at least by 1)
real-analysis functional-analysis ordinary-differential-equations inequality
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$begingroup$
(Peetre's inequality)
Let $x,y in Bbb R^n$ and $s in Bbb R$. Then
$$ frac{(1+|x|^2)^s}{(1+|y|^2)^s} le 2^{|s|} (1+|x-y|^2)^{|s|}.$$
Proof: By switching roles of $x,y$ we may suppose $s ge 0$, and taking $s$th root may assume $s=1$. Then the argument i found online:
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2(x-y)y \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& le 2(1+|y|^2 + |x-y|^2 +|y|^2|x-y|^2 ) \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
What I don't understand is that on the third inequality, isn't this clearly a strict inequality when $snot= 0$? (at least by 1)
real-analysis functional-analysis ordinary-differential-equations inequality
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(Peetre's inequality)
Let $x,y in Bbb R^n$ and $s in Bbb R$. Then
$$ frac{(1+|x|^2)^s}{(1+|y|^2)^s} le 2^{|s|} (1+|x-y|^2)^{|s|}.$$
Proof: By switching roles of $x,y$ we may suppose $s ge 0$, and taking $s$th root may assume $s=1$. Then the argument i found online:
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2(x-y)y \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& le 2(1+|y|^2 + |x-y|^2 +|y|^2|x-y|^2 ) \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
What I don't understand is that on the third inequality, isn't this clearly a strict inequality when $snot= 0$? (at least by 1)
real-analysis functional-analysis ordinary-differential-equations inequality
real-analysis functional-analysis ordinary-differential-equations inequality
edited Dec 23 '18 at 6:55
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Yes, you are correct. We have that for $x,yin mathbb{R}^n$,
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &=1+|(x-y)+y|^2\
&= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2langle (x-y), y rangle \
&leq 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2|x-y| |y| \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& = 1+ 2|y|^2 + 2|x-y|^2 \
& < 2+ 2|y|^2 +2|x-y|^2 +2|y|^2|x-y|^2 \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
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if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
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– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
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I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
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– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
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Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
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– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
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I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
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Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
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Yes, you are correct. We have that for $x,yin mathbb{R}^n$,
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &=1+|(x-y)+y|^2\
&= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2langle (x-y), y rangle \
&leq 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2|x-y| |y| \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& = 1+ 2|y|^2 + 2|x-y|^2 \
& < 2+ 2|y|^2 +2|x-y|^2 +2|y|^2|x-y|^2 \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
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if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
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– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
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I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
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– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
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Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
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– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
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I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
add a comment |
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Yes, you are correct. We have that for $x,yin mathbb{R}^n$,
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &=1+|(x-y)+y|^2\
&= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2langle (x-y), y rangle \
&leq 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2|x-y| |y| \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& = 1+ 2|y|^2 + 2|x-y|^2 \
& < 2+ 2|y|^2 +2|x-y|^2 +2|y|^2|x-y|^2 \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
$begingroup$
I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
$begingroup$
Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
$begingroup$
I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
add a comment |
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Yes, you are correct. We have that for $x,yin mathbb{R}^n$,
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &=1+|(x-y)+y|^2\
&= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2langle (x-y), y rangle \
&leq 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2|x-y| |y| \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& = 1+ 2|y|^2 + 2|x-y|^2 \
& < 2+ 2|y|^2 +2|x-y|^2 +2|y|^2|x-y|^2 \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
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Yes, you are correct. We have that for $x,yin mathbb{R}^n$,
begin{align*}
(1+|x|^2) &=1+|(x-y)+y|^2\
&= 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2langle (x-y), y rangle \
&leq 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 +2|x-y| |y| \
& le 1 + |x-y|^2 + |y|^2 + (|x-y|^2+|y|^2) \
& = 1+ 2|y|^2 + 2|x-y|^2 \
& < 2+ 2|y|^2 +2|x-y|^2 +2|y|^2|x-y|^2 \
& = 2(1+|y|^2)(1+|x-y|^2).
end{align*}
edited Dec 23 '18 at 7:12
answered Dec 23 '18 at 7:05
Robert ZRobert Z
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98.5k1068139
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if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
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– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
$begingroup$
I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
$begingroup$
Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
$begingroup$
I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
add a comment |
$begingroup$
if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
$begingroup$
I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
$begingroup$
Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
$begingroup$
I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
$begingroup$
if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
$begingroup$
if you have time I hope you don't mind giving me some comments on my recent question on elliptic operator.
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 7:21
$begingroup$
I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
$begingroup$
I read the other question but I don't know much about elliptic operators. I did not know even Peetre's Inequality, but as far as I understand, in its applications in PDE, a "strict" inequality is not so important. Am I wrong?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 23 '18 at 7:29
$begingroup$
Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
$begingroup$
Unfortunately I am new to this, so I do not know ...
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 8:20
$begingroup$
I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
$begingroup$
I have simplified the problem now - does this seem easier?
$endgroup$
– CL.
Dec 23 '18 at 23:51
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