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We defined $mathcal{B}(mathbb R):=sigma({[a,b[}),$ where $a < b in mathbb R.$



I have been able to prove:



i) for any $b in mathbb R$, ${b} inmathcal{B}(mathbb R)$



and subsequently ii) $[a,b] in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



iii) $]a,b[ in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



Now for my problem, how can I prove that $mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ contains all countable subsets of $mathbb R$?



My idea was to take any countable subset $C$ of $mathbb R$,



it can be written as $C = bigcup_{n in mathbb N}{a_{n}}$. Since we were able to prove (i), $C$ is immediately as the countable union $in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$. Is this ok? Does not seem clean enough to me?










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    We defined $mathcal{B}(mathbb R):=sigma({[a,b[}),$ where $a < b in mathbb R.$



    I have been able to prove:



    i) for any $b in mathbb R$, ${b} inmathcal{B}(mathbb R)$



    and subsequently ii) $[a,b] in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



    iii) $]a,b[ in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



    Now for my problem, how can I prove that $mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ contains all countable subsets of $mathbb R$?



    My idea was to take any countable subset $C$ of $mathbb R$,



    it can be written as $C = bigcup_{n in mathbb N}{a_{n}}$. Since we were able to prove (i), $C$ is immediately as the countable union $in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$. Is this ok? Does not seem clean enough to me?










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      We defined $mathcal{B}(mathbb R):=sigma({[a,b[}),$ where $a < b in mathbb R.$



      I have been able to prove:



      i) for any $b in mathbb R$, ${b} inmathcal{B}(mathbb R)$



      and subsequently ii) $[a,b] in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



      iii) $]a,b[ in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



      Now for my problem, how can I prove that $mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ contains all countable subsets of $mathbb R$?



      My idea was to take any countable subset $C$ of $mathbb R$,



      it can be written as $C = bigcup_{n in mathbb N}{a_{n}}$. Since we were able to prove (i), $C$ is immediately as the countable union $in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$. Is this ok? Does not seem clean enough to me?










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      We defined $mathcal{B}(mathbb R):=sigma({[a,b[}),$ where $a < b in mathbb R.$



      I have been able to prove:



      i) for any $b in mathbb R$, ${b} inmathcal{B}(mathbb R)$



      and subsequently ii) $[a,b] in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



      iii) $]a,b[ in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ for any $a, b in mathbb R$



      Now for my problem, how can I prove that $mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$ contains all countable subsets of $mathbb R$?



      My idea was to take any countable subset $C$ of $mathbb R$,



      it can be written as $C = bigcup_{n in mathbb N}{a_{n}}$. Since we were able to prove (i), $C$ is immediately as the countable union $in mathcal{B}(mathbb R)$. Is this ok? Does not seem clean enough to me?







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          The usual definition of a sigma-algebra requires that it be closed under countable unions. Once that you have that every singleton is in $mathcal{B}( mathbb R)$, every countable subset of $Bbb R$ is a countable union of singletons.






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          • Yes, it is fine.
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          Your answer is entirely correct, since $sigma$-algebras are closed under countable unions and singeltons are in this $sigma$-algebra:



          Indeed, if $ain mathbb{R}$, then $${a} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n[} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n]}$$






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            The usual definition of a sigma-algebra requires that it be closed under countable unions. Once that you have that every singleton is in $mathcal{B}( mathbb R)$, every countable subset of $Bbb R$ is a countable union of singletons.






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            • So my version is correct?
              – SABOY
              Nov 21 at 20:37










            • Yes, it is fine.
              – Ross Millikan
              Nov 21 at 20:50















            up vote
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            accepted










            The usual definition of a sigma-algebra requires that it be closed under countable unions. Once that you have that every singleton is in $mathcal{B}( mathbb R)$, every countable subset of $Bbb R$ is a countable union of singletons.






            share|cite|improve this answer





















            • So my version is correct?
              – SABOY
              Nov 21 at 20:37










            • Yes, it is fine.
              – Ross Millikan
              Nov 21 at 20:50













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            The usual definition of a sigma-algebra requires that it be closed under countable unions. Once that you have that every singleton is in $mathcal{B}( mathbb R)$, every countable subset of $Bbb R$ is a countable union of singletons.






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            The usual definition of a sigma-algebra requires that it be closed under countable unions. Once that you have that every singleton is in $mathcal{B}( mathbb R)$, every countable subset of $Bbb R$ is a countable union of singletons.







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            answered Nov 21 at 20:35









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            • So my version is correct?
              – SABOY
              Nov 21 at 20:37










            • Yes, it is fine.
              – Ross Millikan
              Nov 21 at 20:50


















            • So my version is correct?
              – SABOY
              Nov 21 at 20:37










            • Yes, it is fine.
              – Ross Millikan
              Nov 21 at 20:50
















            So my version is correct?
            – SABOY
            Nov 21 at 20:37




            So my version is correct?
            – SABOY
            Nov 21 at 20:37












            Yes, it is fine.
            – Ross Millikan
            Nov 21 at 20:50




            Yes, it is fine.
            – Ross Millikan
            Nov 21 at 20:50










            up vote
            1
            down vote













            Your answer is entirely correct, since $sigma$-algebras are closed under countable unions and singeltons are in this $sigma$-algebra:



            Indeed, if $ain mathbb{R}$, then $${a} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n[} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n]}$$






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              Your answer is entirely correct, since $sigma$-algebras are closed under countable unions and singeltons are in this $sigma$-algebra:



              Indeed, if $ain mathbb{R}$, then $${a} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n[} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n]}$$






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                Your answer is entirely correct, since $sigma$-algebras are closed under countable unions and singeltons are in this $sigma$-algebra:



                Indeed, if $ain mathbb{R}$, then $${a} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n[} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n]}$$






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                Your answer is entirely correct, since $sigma$-algebras are closed under countable unions and singeltons are in this $sigma$-algebra:



                Indeed, if $ain mathbb{R}$, then $${a} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n[} = bigcap_{n=1}^infty{[a,a + 1/n]}$$







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