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Solve the inequality for $x$: $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3$$



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1st ans: $(-2,1)cup (1,4)$



2nd ans: $x neq -2,4$










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    Solve the inequality for $x$: $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3$$



    I got two answers and I'm not sure if I did it correctly.



    1st ans: $(-2,1)cup (1,4)$



    2nd ans: $x neq -2,4$










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      I got two answers and I'm not sure if I did it correctly.



      1st ans: $(-2,1)cup (1,4)$



      2nd ans: $x neq -2,4$










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      I got two answers and I'm not sure if I did it correctly.



      1st ans: $(-2,1)cup (1,4)$



      2nd ans: $x neq -2,4$







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          Indeed, $$begin{align}log_4(x^2-2x+1)&<log_2(3)\log_4((x-1)^2)&<log_2(3)\2log_4(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)\log_2(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)qquadtext{since $2=log_2(4)$}end{align}$$
          hence, $|x-1|<3$ since $log_2$ is increasing and one to one. Thus, $-3<x-1<3implies -2<x<4$. But of course, $xneq 1$ since $log_2(0)$ is undefined. Hence, the interval for $x$ is $(-2,1)cup(1,4)$.






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            begin{array}{c}
            log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3 \
            x^2 − 2x + 1 < 4^{log_2 3} \
            0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{2log_2 3} \
            0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{log_2 3^2} \
            0<(x-1)^2 < 3^2 \
            text{$-3 < x-1 < 3$ and $x ne 1$} \
            text{$-2 < x < 4$ and $x ne 1$} \
            x in (-2,1) cup (1,4)
            end{array}






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            • Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
              – N. F. Taussig
              Sep 30 '17 at 3:05










            • @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
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              Sep 30 '17 at 4:10










            • @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
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              Nov 15 at 8:01


















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            By the change of base formula, $log_4{x^2-2x+1}$ is equal to $frac{log_2{x^2-2x+1}}{log_2{4}}$, or $frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1}$. Since both sides are in the same base, we can directly solve the inequality:



            $$frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1} < log_2{3}$$
            $$log_2{x^2-2x+1} < 2 log_2{3}$$
            $$x^2-2x+1 < (2^{log_2{3}})^2$$
            $$x^2-2x+1<9$$
            $$x^2-2x-8<0$$



            Now factorise the quadratic equation to get its roots, then set up the inequality. For the second question, when does $log_4{x^2+2x+1}$ equal $0$? How can you apply this constraint to your inequality?






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              With the use of $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) =frac{log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1)}{log_2 4},$$ rewrite the given inequality as
              $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < 2log_2 3$$
              or
              $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 9.$$
              The function is increasing, thus this holds iff
              $$0<(x^2 − 2x + 1) <9.$$ This gives the set of solutions $x in(-2,1)cup(1,4).$






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                Indeed, $$begin{align}log_4(x^2-2x+1)&<log_2(3)\log_4((x-1)^2)&<log_2(3)\2log_4(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)\log_2(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)qquadtext{since $2=log_2(4)$}end{align}$$
                hence, $|x-1|<3$ since $log_2$ is increasing and one to one. Thus, $-3<x-1<3implies -2<x<4$. But of course, $xneq 1$ since $log_2(0)$ is undefined. Hence, the interval for $x$ is $(-2,1)cup(1,4)$.






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                  Indeed, $$begin{align}log_4(x^2-2x+1)&<log_2(3)\log_4((x-1)^2)&<log_2(3)\2log_4(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)\log_2(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)qquadtext{since $2=log_2(4)$}end{align}$$
                  hence, $|x-1|<3$ since $log_2$ is increasing and one to one. Thus, $-3<x-1<3implies -2<x<4$. But of course, $xneq 1$ since $log_2(0)$ is undefined. Hence, the interval for $x$ is $(-2,1)cup(1,4)$.






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                    Indeed, $$begin{align}log_4(x^2-2x+1)&<log_2(3)\log_4((x-1)^2)&<log_2(3)\2log_4(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)\log_2(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)qquadtext{since $2=log_2(4)$}end{align}$$
                    hence, $|x-1|<3$ since $log_2$ is increasing and one to one. Thus, $-3<x-1<3implies -2<x<4$. But of course, $xneq 1$ since $log_2(0)$ is undefined. Hence, the interval for $x$ is $(-2,1)cup(1,4)$.






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                    Indeed, $$begin{align}log_4(x^2-2x+1)&<log_2(3)\log_4((x-1)^2)&<log_2(3)\2log_4(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)\log_2(|x-1|)&<log_2(3)qquadtext{since $2=log_2(4)$}end{align}$$
                    hence, $|x-1|<3$ since $log_2$ is increasing and one to one. Thus, $-3<x-1<3implies -2<x<4$. But of course, $xneq 1$ since $log_2(0)$ is undefined. Hence, the interval for $x$ is $(-2,1)cup(1,4)$.







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                        begin{array}{c}
                        log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3 \
                        x^2 − 2x + 1 < 4^{log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{2log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{log_2 3^2} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 3^2 \
                        text{$-3 < x-1 < 3$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        text{$-2 < x < 4$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        x in (-2,1) cup (1,4)
                        end{array}






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                        • Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
                          – N. F. Taussig
                          Sep 30 '17 at 3:05










                        • @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
                          – steven gregory
                          Sep 30 '17 at 4:10










                        • @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
                          – user376343
                          Nov 15 at 8:01















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                        begin{array}{c}
                        log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3 \
                        x^2 − 2x + 1 < 4^{log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{2log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{log_2 3^2} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 3^2 \
                        text{$-3 < x-1 < 3$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        text{$-2 < x < 4$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        x in (-2,1) cup (1,4)
                        end{array}






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                        • Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
                          – N. F. Taussig
                          Sep 30 '17 at 3:05










                        • @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
                          – steven gregory
                          Sep 30 '17 at 4:10










                        • @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
                          – user376343
                          Nov 15 at 8:01













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                        begin{array}{c}
                        log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3 \
                        x^2 − 2x + 1 < 4^{log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{2log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{log_2 3^2} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 3^2 \
                        text{$-3 < x-1 < 3$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        text{$-2 < x < 4$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        x in (-2,1) cup (1,4)
                        end{array}






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                        begin{array}{c}
                        log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 3 \
                        x^2 − 2x + 1 < 4^{log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{2log_2 3} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 2^{log_2 3^2} \
                        0<(x-1)^2 < 3^2 \
                        text{$-3 < x-1 < 3$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        text{$-2 < x < 4$ and $x ne 1$} \
                        x in (-2,1) cup (1,4)
                        end{array}







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                        • Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
                          – N. F. Taussig
                          Sep 30 '17 at 3:05










                        • @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
                          – steven gregory
                          Sep 30 '17 at 4:10










                        • @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
                          – user376343
                          Nov 15 at 8:01


















                        • Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
                          – N. F. Taussig
                          Sep 30 '17 at 3:05










                        • @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
                          – steven gregory
                          Sep 30 '17 at 4:10










                        • @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
                          – user376343
                          Nov 15 at 8:01
















                        Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
                        – N. F. Taussig
                        Sep 30 '17 at 3:05




                        Be careful. The logarithm is not defined when $x^2 - 2x + 1 = 0$.
                        – N. F. Taussig
                        Sep 30 '17 at 3:05












                        @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
                        – steven gregory
                        Sep 30 '17 at 4:10




                        @N.F.Taussig - Thanks. I missed that.
                        – steven gregory
                        Sep 30 '17 at 4:10












                        @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
                        – user376343
                        Nov 15 at 8:01




                        @Steven you'd like to fix your result?
                        – user376343
                        Nov 15 at 8:01










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                        By the change of base formula, $log_4{x^2-2x+1}$ is equal to $frac{log_2{x^2-2x+1}}{log_2{4}}$, or $frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1}$. Since both sides are in the same base, we can directly solve the inequality:



                        $$frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1} < log_2{3}$$
                        $$log_2{x^2-2x+1} < 2 log_2{3}$$
                        $$x^2-2x+1 < (2^{log_2{3}})^2$$
                        $$x^2-2x+1<9$$
                        $$x^2-2x-8<0$$



                        Now factorise the quadratic equation to get its roots, then set up the inequality. For the second question, when does $log_4{x^2+2x+1}$ equal $0$? How can you apply this constraint to your inequality?






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                          By the change of base formula, $log_4{x^2-2x+1}$ is equal to $frac{log_2{x^2-2x+1}}{log_2{4}}$, or $frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1}$. Since both sides are in the same base, we can directly solve the inequality:



                          $$frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1} < log_2{3}$$
                          $$log_2{x^2-2x+1} < 2 log_2{3}$$
                          $$x^2-2x+1 < (2^{log_2{3}})^2$$
                          $$x^2-2x+1<9$$
                          $$x^2-2x-8<0$$



                          Now factorise the quadratic equation to get its roots, then set up the inequality. For the second question, when does $log_4{x^2+2x+1}$ equal $0$? How can you apply this constraint to your inequality?






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                            By the change of base formula, $log_4{x^2-2x+1}$ is equal to $frac{log_2{x^2-2x+1}}{log_2{4}}$, or $frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1}$. Since both sides are in the same base, we can directly solve the inequality:



                            $$frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1} < log_2{3}$$
                            $$log_2{x^2-2x+1} < 2 log_2{3}$$
                            $$x^2-2x+1 < (2^{log_2{3}})^2$$
                            $$x^2-2x+1<9$$
                            $$x^2-2x-8<0$$



                            Now factorise the quadratic equation to get its roots, then set up the inequality. For the second question, when does $log_4{x^2+2x+1}$ equal $0$? How can you apply this constraint to your inequality?






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                            By the change of base formula, $log_4{x^2-2x+1}$ is equal to $frac{log_2{x^2-2x+1}}{log_2{4}}$, or $frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1}$. Since both sides are in the same base, we can directly solve the inequality:



                            $$frac{1}{2} log_2{x^2-2x+1} < log_2{3}$$
                            $$log_2{x^2-2x+1} < 2 log_2{3}$$
                            $$x^2-2x+1 < (2^{log_2{3}})^2$$
                            $$x^2-2x+1<9$$
                            $$x^2-2x-8<0$$



                            Now factorise the quadratic equation to get its roots, then set up the inequality. For the second question, when does $log_4{x^2+2x+1}$ equal $0$? How can you apply this constraint to your inequality?







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                                With the use of $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) =frac{log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1)}{log_2 4},$$ rewrite the given inequality as
                                $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < 2log_2 3$$
                                or
                                $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 9.$$
                                The function is increasing, thus this holds iff
                                $$0<(x^2 − 2x + 1) <9.$$ This gives the set of solutions $x in(-2,1)cup(1,4).$






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                                  With the use of $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) =frac{log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1)}{log_2 4},$$ rewrite the given inequality as
                                  $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < 2log_2 3$$
                                  or
                                  $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 9.$$
                                  The function is increasing, thus this holds iff
                                  $$0<(x^2 − 2x + 1) <9.$$ This gives the set of solutions $x in(-2,1)cup(1,4).$






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                                    With the use of $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) =frac{log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1)}{log_2 4},$$ rewrite the given inequality as
                                    $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < 2log_2 3$$
                                    or
                                    $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 9.$$
                                    The function is increasing, thus this holds iff
                                    $$0<(x^2 − 2x + 1) <9.$$ This gives the set of solutions $x in(-2,1)cup(1,4).$






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                                    With the use of $$log_4 (x^2 − 2x + 1) =frac{log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1)}{log_2 4},$$ rewrite the given inequality as
                                    $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < 2log_2 3$$
                                    or
                                    $$ log_2 (x^2 − 2x + 1) < log_2 9.$$
                                    The function is increasing, thus this holds iff
                                    $$0<(x^2 − 2x + 1) <9.$$ This gives the set of solutions $x in(-2,1)cup(1,4).$







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