Group theory book: presentations and group actions
I have some basic abstract algebra knowledge (the usual groups/rings/fields).
Now I would like to study, in depth, presentations of groups and group actions. (either of which I have no knowledge)
Could someone please recommend to me books for this purpose?
(I am aware that I will most likely need two different sources (or more))
I tried to search Amazon for books on group theory but I couldn't really find a good match. There is Joseph Rotman's book on group theory and while it seems to have a bit of both, according to the reviews it is full of typos and it also contains a load of other topics.
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I have some basic abstract algebra knowledge (the usual groups/rings/fields).
Now I would like to study, in depth, presentations of groups and group actions. (either of which I have no knowledge)
Could someone please recommend to me books for this purpose?
(I am aware that I will most likely need two different sources (or more))
I tried to search Amazon for books on group theory but I couldn't really find a good match. There is Joseph Rotman's book on group theory and while it seems to have a bit of both, according to the reviews it is full of typos and it also contains a load of other topics.
group-theory book-recommendation group-actions group-presentation
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
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asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
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I don't know remember how much it has about presentations, but Dummit and Foote is good for groups and group actions.
– Kimball
Jan 14 '15 at 8:16
2
These two topics are not very strongly related, so you should not expect to find a single source that covers both and nothing else! I completely disagree with your disparaging remarks about Rotman's book, which is one of the books on group theory that I recommend most strongly. For example, I know of no other book at that level that includes an accessible proof of the unsolvability of the word problem in finitely presented groups.
– Derek Holt
Jan 14 '15 at 9:09
What books you followed in your first course of algebra?
– Arpit Kansal
Jan 14 '15 at 9:18
1
The book "Groups, Graphs and Trees" by John Meier (£20.79, second hand, amazon.co.uk) is a lovely introduction to the theory of group actions. However, flicking through it, it perhaps assumes a basic knowledge of presentations (they are only briefly introduced on page 68). On the other hand, I am a big fan of Chapter 1 of the book "Combinatorial group theory" by Magnus, Karrass and Solitar (£9.99, second hand, amazon.co.uk). It is, perhaps, the ultimate in introductions to presentations. It is also one of the classic texts in geometric and combinatorial group theory.
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:54
1
There is also the book "Presentations of Groups" by D.L.Johnson, but I cannot recall if it talks about actions. It does talk about (co?)homology though, and it was the only place I could find anything about cyclically presented groups. (That is, about presentations of the form $langle x_0, x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4; x_{i}x_{i+1pmod5}=x_{i+2pmod5}rangle$. This one is cyclic of order $11$, but would be infinite for large values of $5$.)
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:58
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I have some basic abstract algebra knowledge (the usual groups/rings/fields).
Now I would like to study, in depth, presentations of groups and group actions. (either of which I have no knowledge)
Could someone please recommend to me books for this purpose?
(I am aware that I will most likely need two different sources (or more))
I tried to search Amazon for books on group theory but I couldn't really find a good match. There is Joseph Rotman's book on group theory and while it seems to have a bit of both, according to the reviews it is full of typos and it also contains a load of other topics.
group-theory book-recommendation group-actions group-presentation
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
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asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
user174981
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I have some basic abstract algebra knowledge (the usual groups/rings/fields).
Now I would like to study, in depth, presentations of groups and group actions. (either of which I have no knowledge)
Could someone please recommend to me books for this purpose?
(I am aware that I will most likely need two different sources (or more))
I tried to search Amazon for books on group theory but I couldn't really find a good match. There is Joseph Rotman's book on group theory and while it seems to have a bit of both, according to the reviews it is full of typos and it also contains a load of other topics.
group-theory book-recommendation group-actions group-presentation
group-theory book-recommendation group-actions group-presentation
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
8,507113580
asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
user174981
19919
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
8,507113580
asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
user174981
19919
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
8,507113580
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
8,507113580
edited Nov 26 at 1:59
Shaun
8,507113580
8,507113580
asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
user174981
19919
asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
user174981
19919
asked Jan 14 '15 at 7:21
user174981
19919
19919
I don't know remember how much it has about presentations, but Dummit and Foote is good for groups and group actions.
– Kimball
Jan 14 '15 at 8:16
2
These two topics are not very strongly related, so you should not expect to find a single source that covers both and nothing else! I completely disagree with your disparaging remarks about Rotman's book, which is one of the books on group theory that I recommend most strongly. For example, I know of no other book at that level that includes an accessible proof of the unsolvability of the word problem in finitely presented groups.
– Derek Holt
Jan 14 '15 at 9:09
What books you followed in your first course of algebra?
– Arpit Kansal
Jan 14 '15 at 9:18
1
The book "Groups, Graphs and Trees" by John Meier (£20.79, second hand, amazon.co.uk) is a lovely introduction to the theory of group actions. However, flicking through it, it perhaps assumes a basic knowledge of presentations (they are only briefly introduced on page 68). On the other hand, I am a big fan of Chapter 1 of the book "Combinatorial group theory" by Magnus, Karrass and Solitar (£9.99, second hand, amazon.co.uk). It is, perhaps, the ultimate in introductions to presentations. It is also one of the classic texts in geometric and combinatorial group theory.
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:54
1
There is also the book "Presentations of Groups" by D.L.Johnson, but I cannot recall if it talks about actions. It does talk about (co?)homology though, and it was the only place I could find anything about cyclically presented groups. (That is, about presentations of the form $langle x_0, x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4; x_{i}x_{i+1pmod5}=x_{i+2pmod5}rangle$. This one is cyclic of order $11$, but would be infinite for large values of $5$.)
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:58
|
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I don't know remember how much it has about presentations, but Dummit and Foote is good for groups and group actions.
– Kimball
Jan 14 '15 at 8:16
2
These two topics are not very strongly related, so you should not expect to find a single source that covers both and nothing else! I completely disagree with your disparaging remarks about Rotman's book, which is one of the books on group theory that I recommend most strongly. For example, I know of no other book at that level that includes an accessible proof of the unsolvability of the word problem in finitely presented groups.
– Derek Holt
Jan 14 '15 at 9:09
What books you followed in your first course of algebra?
– Arpit Kansal
Jan 14 '15 at 9:18
1
The book "Groups, Graphs and Trees" by John Meier (£20.79, second hand, amazon.co.uk) is a lovely introduction to the theory of group actions. However, flicking through it, it perhaps assumes a basic knowledge of presentations (they are only briefly introduced on page 68). On the other hand, I am a big fan of Chapter 1 of the book "Combinatorial group theory" by Magnus, Karrass and Solitar (£9.99, second hand, amazon.co.uk). It is, perhaps, the ultimate in introductions to presentations. It is also one of the classic texts in geometric and combinatorial group theory.
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:54
1
There is also the book "Presentations of Groups" by D.L.Johnson, but I cannot recall if it talks about actions. It does talk about (co?)homology though, and it was the only place I could find anything about cyclically presented groups. (That is, about presentations of the form $langle x_0, x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4; x_{i}x_{i+1pmod5}=x_{i+2pmod5}rangle$. This one is cyclic of order $11$, but would be infinite for large values of $5$.)
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:58
I don't know remember how much it has about presentations, but Dummit and Foote is good for groups and group actions.
– Kimball
Jan 14 '15 at 8:16
I don't know remember how much it has about presentations, but Dummit and Foote is good for groups and group actions.
– Kimball
Jan 14 '15 at 8:16
2
2
These two topics are not very strongly related, so you should not expect to find a single source that covers both and nothing else! I completely disagree with your disparaging remarks about Rotman's book, which is one of the books on group theory that I recommend most strongly. For example, I know of no other book at that level that includes an accessible proof of the unsolvability of the word problem in finitely presented groups.
– Derek Holt
Jan 14 '15 at 9:09
These two topics are not very strongly related, so you should not expect to find a single source that covers both and nothing else! I completely disagree with your disparaging remarks about Rotman's book, which is one of the books on group theory that I recommend most strongly. For example, I know of no other book at that level that includes an accessible proof of the unsolvability of the word problem in finitely presented groups.
– Derek Holt
Jan 14 '15 at 9:09
What books you followed in your first course of algebra?
– Arpit Kansal
Jan 14 '15 at 9:18
What books you followed in your first course of algebra?
– Arpit Kansal
Jan 14 '15 at 9:18
1
1
The book "Groups, Graphs and Trees" by John Meier (£20.79, second hand, amazon.co.uk) is a lovely introduction to the theory of group actions. However, flicking through it, it perhaps assumes a basic knowledge of presentations (they are only briefly introduced on page 68). On the other hand, I am a big fan of Chapter 1 of the book "Combinatorial group theory" by Magnus, Karrass and Solitar (£9.99, second hand, amazon.co.uk). It is, perhaps, the ultimate in introductions to presentations. It is also one of the classic texts in geometric and combinatorial group theory.
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:54
The book "Groups, Graphs and Trees" by John Meier (£20.79, second hand, amazon.co.uk) is a lovely introduction to the theory of group actions. However, flicking through it, it perhaps assumes a basic knowledge of presentations (they are only briefly introduced on page 68). On the other hand, I am a big fan of Chapter 1 of the book "Combinatorial group theory" by Magnus, Karrass and Solitar (£9.99, second hand, amazon.co.uk). It is, perhaps, the ultimate in introductions to presentations. It is also one of the classic texts in geometric and combinatorial group theory.
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:54
1
1
There is also the book "Presentations of Groups" by D.L.Johnson, but I cannot recall if it talks about actions. It does talk about (co?)homology though, and it was the only place I could find anything about cyclically presented groups. (That is, about presentations of the form $langle x_0, x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4; x_{i}x_{i+1pmod5}=x_{i+2pmod5}rangle$. This one is cyclic of order $11$, but would be infinite for large values of $5$.)
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:58
There is also the book "Presentations of Groups" by D.L.Johnson, but I cannot recall if it talks about actions. It does talk about (co?)homology though, and it was the only place I could find anything about cyclically presented groups. (That is, about presentations of the form $langle x_0, x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4; x_{i}x_{i+1pmod5}=x_{i+2pmod5}rangle$. This one is cyclic of order $11$, but would be infinite for large values of $5$.)
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:58
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It seems to me that you would like to have a book which combines aspects of geometric group theory and algebraic group theory. Here I would recommend the book Introduction to Group Theory by Oleg Bogopolski.
answered Jan 14 '15 at 10:09
Dietrich Burde
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Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
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It seems to me that you would like to have a book which combines aspects of geometric group theory and algebraic group theory. Here I would recommend the book Introduction to Group Theory by Oleg Bogopolski.
answered Jan 14 '15 at 10:09
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Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
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It seems to me that you would like to have a book which combines aspects of geometric group theory and algebraic group theory. Here I would recommend the book Introduction to Group Theory by Oleg Bogopolski.
answered Jan 14 '15 at 10:09
Dietrich Burde
77.4k64386
Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
add a comment |
It seems to me that you would like to have a book which combines aspects of geometric group theory and algebraic group theory. Here I would recommend the book Introduction to Group Theory by Oleg Bogopolski.
answered Jan 14 '15 at 10:09
Dietrich Burde
77.4k64386
It seems to me that you would like to have a book which combines aspects of geometric group theory and algebraic group theory. Here I would recommend the book Introduction to Group Theory by Oleg Bogopolski.
answered Jan 14 '15 at 10:09
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77.4k64386
answered Jan 14 '15 at 10:09
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Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
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Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Thank you. I looked at the TOC and it looks advanced. Is it really an introduction like the title suggests?
– user174981
Jan 14 '15 at 10:20
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
Well, some parts are advanced, but you still have the basic things you need on an elementary level.
– Dietrich Burde
Jan 14 '15 at 10:32
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I don't know remember how much it has about presentations, but Dummit and Foote is good for groups and group actions.
– Kimball
Jan 14 '15 at 8:16
2
These two topics are not very strongly related, so you should not expect to find a single source that covers both and nothing else! I completely disagree with your disparaging remarks about Rotman's book, which is one of the books on group theory that I recommend most strongly. For example, I know of no other book at that level that includes an accessible proof of the unsolvability of the word problem in finitely presented groups.
– Derek Holt
Jan 14 '15 at 9:09
What books you followed in your first course of algebra?
– Arpit Kansal
Jan 14 '15 at 9:18
1
The book "Groups, Graphs and Trees" by John Meier (£20.79, second hand, amazon.co.uk) is a lovely introduction to the theory of group actions. However, flicking through it, it perhaps assumes a basic knowledge of presentations (they are only briefly introduced on page 68). On the other hand, I am a big fan of Chapter 1 of the book "Combinatorial group theory" by Magnus, Karrass and Solitar (£9.99, second hand, amazon.co.uk). It is, perhaps, the ultimate in introductions to presentations. It is also one of the classic texts in geometric and combinatorial group theory.
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:54
1
There is also the book "Presentations of Groups" by D.L.Johnson, but I cannot recall if it talks about actions. It does talk about (co?)homology though, and it was the only place I could find anything about cyclically presented groups. (That is, about presentations of the form $langle x_0, x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4; x_{i}x_{i+1pmod5}=x_{i+2pmod5}rangle$. This one is cyclic of order $11$, but would be infinite for large values of $5$.)
– user1729
Jan 14 '15 at 9:58