Unit circle shifted upwards so it is tangent the graph of $f(x)=x^{2}$
How can we find k so that $x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}$ is tangent to the graph of $f(x)=x^2$?
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How can we find k so that $x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}$ is tangent to the graph of $f(x)=x^2$?
calculus analytic-geometry
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Barely touches is not a mathematic term. Maybe you mean being tangent to it ?
– Rebellos
Nov 28 '18 at 13:02
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I think 'touches' suffices?
– Shubham Johri
Nov 28 '18 at 13:08
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How can we find k so that $x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}$ is tangent to the graph of $f(x)=x^2$?
calculus analytic-geometry
How can we find k so that $x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}$ is tangent to the graph of $f(x)=x^2$?
calculus analytic-geometry
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Barely touches is not a mathematic term. Maybe you mean being tangent to it ?
– Rebellos
Nov 28 '18 at 13:02
1
I think 'touches' suffices?
– Shubham Johri
Nov 28 '18 at 13:08
add a comment |
1
Barely touches is not a mathematic term. Maybe you mean being tangent to it ?
– Rebellos
Nov 28 '18 at 13:02
1
I think 'touches' suffices?
– Shubham Johri
Nov 28 '18 at 13:08
1
1
Barely touches is not a mathematic term. Maybe you mean being tangent to it ?
– Rebellos
Nov 28 '18 at 13:02
Barely touches is not a mathematic term. Maybe you mean being tangent to it ?
– Rebellos
Nov 28 '18 at 13:02
1
1
I think 'touches' suffices?
– Shubham Johri
Nov 28 '18 at 13:08
I think 'touches' suffices?
– Shubham Johri
Nov 28 '18 at 13:08
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Substantial hint:
Suppose you knew $k$. Then at the (right hand) point where the graphs touch -- call it $(a,b)$, you'd know three things:
- $b = a^2$
- $a^2 + (b-k)^2 = 1$
- $frac{b-k}{a} = frac{-1}{2a}$
The last follows by drawing a line from $(a, b)$ to the circle center at $(0, k)$. That line has slope $frac{b-k}{a}$. It's also perpendicular to the tangent line to the parabola at $(a, b)$, which has slope $2a$. And the product of the slopes of perpendicular lines is always $-1$.
Now you just have to solve those three simultaneous equations.
I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
1
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
1
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
1
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
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The points of intersection of the parabola and the circle are the solutions of the pair of equations $$y=x^2 text{ and } x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$ or, equivalently, $$y=x^2 text{ and } y+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$
The circle is tangent to the parabola if the quadratic equation for $y$ has exactly one solution.
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Substantial hint:
Suppose you knew $k$. Then at the (right hand) point where the graphs touch -- call it $(a,b)$, you'd know three things:
- $b = a^2$
- $a^2 + (b-k)^2 = 1$
- $frac{b-k}{a} = frac{-1}{2a}$
The last follows by drawing a line from $(a, b)$ to the circle center at $(0, k)$. That line has slope $frac{b-k}{a}$. It's also perpendicular to the tangent line to the parabola at $(a, b)$, which has slope $2a$. And the product of the slopes of perpendicular lines is always $-1$.
Now you just have to solve those three simultaneous equations.
I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
1
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
1
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
1
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
|
show 1 more comment
Substantial hint:
Suppose you knew $k$. Then at the (right hand) point where the graphs touch -- call it $(a,b)$, you'd know three things:
- $b = a^2$
- $a^2 + (b-k)^2 = 1$
- $frac{b-k}{a} = frac{-1}{2a}$
The last follows by drawing a line from $(a, b)$ to the circle center at $(0, k)$. That line has slope $frac{b-k}{a}$. It's also perpendicular to the tangent line to the parabola at $(a, b)$, which has slope $2a$. And the product of the slopes of perpendicular lines is always $-1$.
Now you just have to solve those three simultaneous equations.
I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
1
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
1
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
1
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
|
show 1 more comment
Substantial hint:
Suppose you knew $k$. Then at the (right hand) point where the graphs touch -- call it $(a,b)$, you'd know three things:
- $b = a^2$
- $a^2 + (b-k)^2 = 1$
- $frac{b-k}{a} = frac{-1}{2a}$
The last follows by drawing a line from $(a, b)$ to the circle center at $(0, k)$. That line has slope $frac{b-k}{a}$. It's also perpendicular to the tangent line to the parabola at $(a, b)$, which has slope $2a$. And the product of the slopes of perpendicular lines is always $-1$.
Now you just have to solve those three simultaneous equations.
Substantial hint:
Suppose you knew $k$. Then at the (right hand) point where the graphs touch -- call it $(a,b)$, you'd know three things:
- $b = a^2$
- $a^2 + (b-k)^2 = 1$
- $frac{b-k}{a} = frac{-1}{2a}$
The last follows by drawing a line from $(a, b)$ to the circle center at $(0, k)$. That line has slope $frac{b-k}{a}$. It's also perpendicular to the tangent line to the parabola at $(a, b)$, which has slope $2a$. And the product of the slopes of perpendicular lines is always $-1$.
Now you just have to solve those three simultaneous equations.
answered Nov 28 '18 at 13:26
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I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
1
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
1
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
1
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
|
show 1 more comment
I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
1
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
1
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
1
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
I got $k=frac{7}{8}\$, but when I plot it it doesn't seem right.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 14:41
1
1
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
Are you sure that you've made calculations right? I got $k=frac74$ in my mind (unfortunately I do not have a paper and pen right now)
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 28 '18 at 15:49
1
1
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
When you got $k = 7/8$, what values did you get for $a$ and $b$? Do the resulting values satisfy all three equations? If not, then you made a mistake.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 15:54
1
1
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
You could even add your method for arriving at $7/8$ to your question (click on "edit" just below the question itself) so that we might show where you went off the rails.
– John Hughes
Nov 28 '18 at 16:44
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
Made a mistake. Sorry for bothering. The answer is $frac{5}{4}$.
– Lok
Nov 28 '18 at 22:38
|
show 1 more comment
The points of intersection of the parabola and the circle are the solutions of the pair of equations $$y=x^2 text{ and } x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$ or, equivalently, $$y=x^2 text{ and } y+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$
The circle is tangent to the parabola if the quadratic equation for $y$ has exactly one solution.
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The points of intersection of the parabola and the circle are the solutions of the pair of equations $$y=x^2 text{ and } x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$ or, equivalently, $$y=x^2 text{ and } y+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$
The circle is tangent to the parabola if the quadratic equation for $y$ has exactly one solution.
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The points of intersection of the parabola and the circle are the solutions of the pair of equations $$y=x^2 text{ and } x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$ or, equivalently, $$y=x^2 text{ and } y+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$
The circle is tangent to the parabola if the quadratic equation for $y$ has exactly one solution.
The points of intersection of the parabola and the circle are the solutions of the pair of equations $$y=x^2 text{ and } x^{2}+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$ or, equivalently, $$y=x^2 text{ and } y+(y-k)^{2}=1 $$
The circle is tangent to the parabola if the quadratic equation for $y$ has exactly one solution.
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Barely touches is not a mathematic term. Maybe you mean being tangent to it ?
– Rebellos
Nov 28 '18 at 13:02
1
I think 'touches' suffices?
– Shubham Johri
Nov 28 '18 at 13:08