let $X$ be a topological and A be a nonempty subset of X.then choose the correct statement
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Let $X$ be a topological space and A be a nonempty subset of X. Then
choose the correct statement:
$1.$ $A$ is dense in $X$, if $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense in $X.$
$2.$ $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense , if $A$ is dense in $X.$
$3$.$A$ is dense in $X$, if the interior of $(Xsetminus A)$ is empty.
$4.$The interior of $(X setminus A)$ is empty , if $A$ is dense in $X$.
My attempt : my answer is option $1 ,2 $ and $ 4.$
Option $1$ is True. Take $A = mathbb{Q}.$
Option $2$ is true. Same logic in option $1.$
Option $3$ is false. Take $A =[0,1]$ , $A^0 =A text{interior} =(0,1) neq phi.$
Option $4$ is true. Take $A= mathbb{Q}.$
Is its correct or not ?
Any hints/solution will be appreciated.
thanks u
general-topology
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Let $X$ be a topological space and A be a nonempty subset of X. Then
choose the correct statement:
$1.$ $A$ is dense in $X$, if $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense in $X.$
$2.$ $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense , if $A$ is dense in $X.$
$3$.$A$ is dense in $X$, if the interior of $(Xsetminus A)$ is empty.
$4.$The interior of $(X setminus A)$ is empty , if $A$ is dense in $X$.
My attempt : my answer is option $1 ,2 $ and $ 4.$
Option $1$ is True. Take $A = mathbb{Q}.$
Option $2$ is true. Same logic in option $1.$
Option $3$ is false. Take $A =[0,1]$ , $A^0 =A text{interior} =(0,1) neq phi.$
Option $4$ is true. Take $A= mathbb{Q}.$
Is its correct or not ?
Any hints/solution will be appreciated.
thanks u
general-topology
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what is $mathbb{R}backslash mathbb{Q}$?
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– Thomas
Dec 15 '18 at 15:31
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@Thomas complement of $mathbb{Q}$
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– jasmine
Dec 15 '18 at 15:38
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If you say true, an example is not an argument. Only for false statements you need to exhibit a counterexample.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:50
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For 3 your example does not obey that the interior of the complement is empty. So it's irrelevant.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:51
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The counter-examples to 1. and 2. in the answers are examples of a set $A$ that is called "dense & co-dense" . I.e., both $A$ and $X$ $A$ are dense in $X.$
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– DanielWainfleet
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Let $X$ be a topological space and A be a nonempty subset of X. Then
choose the correct statement:
$1.$ $A$ is dense in $X$, if $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense in $X.$
$2.$ $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense , if $A$ is dense in $X.$
$3$.$A$ is dense in $X$, if the interior of $(Xsetminus A)$ is empty.
$4.$The interior of $(X setminus A)$ is empty , if $A$ is dense in $X$.
My attempt : my answer is option $1 ,2 $ and $ 4.$
Option $1$ is True. Take $A = mathbb{Q}.$
Option $2$ is true. Same logic in option $1.$
Option $3$ is false. Take $A =[0,1]$ , $A^0 =A text{interior} =(0,1) neq phi.$
Option $4$ is true. Take $A= mathbb{Q}.$
Is its correct or not ?
Any hints/solution will be appreciated.
thanks u
general-topology
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Let $X$ be a topological space and A be a nonempty subset of X. Then
choose the correct statement:
$1.$ $A$ is dense in $X$, if $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense in $X.$
$2.$ $(Xsetminus A)$ is nowhere dense , if $A$ is dense in $X.$
$3$.$A$ is dense in $X$, if the interior of $(Xsetminus A)$ is empty.
$4.$The interior of $(X setminus A)$ is empty , if $A$ is dense in $X$.
My attempt : my answer is option $1 ,2 $ and $ 4.$
Option $1$ is True. Take $A = mathbb{Q}.$
Option $2$ is true. Same logic in option $1.$
Option $3$ is false. Take $A =[0,1]$ , $A^0 =A text{interior} =(0,1) neq phi.$
Option $4$ is true. Take $A= mathbb{Q}.$
Is its correct or not ?
Any hints/solution will be appreciated.
thanks u
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what is $mathbb{R}backslash mathbb{Q}$?
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– Thomas
Dec 15 '18 at 15:31
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@Thomas complement of $mathbb{Q}$
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– jasmine
Dec 15 '18 at 15:38
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If you say true, an example is not an argument. Only for false statements you need to exhibit a counterexample.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:50
1
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For 3 your example does not obey that the interior of the complement is empty. So it's irrelevant.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:51
1
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The counter-examples to 1. and 2. in the answers are examples of a set $A$ that is called "dense & co-dense" . I.e., both $A$ and $X$ $A$ are dense in $X.$
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– DanielWainfleet
Dec 15 '18 at 18:56
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what is $mathbb{R}backslash mathbb{Q}$?
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– Thomas
Dec 15 '18 at 15:31
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@Thomas complement of $mathbb{Q}$
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– jasmine
Dec 15 '18 at 15:38
1
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If you say true, an example is not an argument. Only for false statements you need to exhibit a counterexample.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:50
1
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For 3 your example does not obey that the interior of the complement is empty. So it's irrelevant.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:51
1
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The counter-examples to 1. and 2. in the answers are examples of a set $A$ that is called "dense & co-dense" . I.e., both $A$ and $X$ $A$ are dense in $X.$
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– DanielWainfleet
Dec 15 '18 at 18:56
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what is $mathbb{R}backslash mathbb{Q}$?
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– Thomas
Dec 15 '18 at 15:31
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what is $mathbb{R}backslash mathbb{Q}$?
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– Thomas
Dec 15 '18 at 15:31
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@Thomas complement of $mathbb{Q}$
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– jasmine
Dec 15 '18 at 15:38
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@Thomas complement of $mathbb{Q}$
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– jasmine
Dec 15 '18 at 15:38
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If you say true, an example is not an argument. Only for false statements you need to exhibit a counterexample.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:50
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If you say true, an example is not an argument. Only for false statements you need to exhibit a counterexample.
$endgroup$
– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:50
1
1
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For 3 your example does not obey that the interior of the complement is empty. So it's irrelevant.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:51
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For 3 your example does not obey that the interior of the complement is empty. So it's irrelevant.
$endgroup$
– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:51
1
1
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The counter-examples to 1. and 2. in the answers are examples of a set $A$ that is called "dense & co-dense" . I.e., both $A$ and $X$ $A$ are dense in $X.$
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– DanielWainfleet
Dec 15 '18 at 18:56
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The counter-examples to 1. and 2. in the answers are examples of a set $A$ that is called "dense & co-dense" . I.e., both $A$ and $X$ $A$ are dense in $X.$
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If $Xsetminus A$ is nowhere dense, this means that $Xsetminus (X setminus A)) = A$ contains a dense and open subset, so indeed $A$ is dense. An example cannot answer this, you need an argument.
If $A$ is dense, then $Xsetminus A$ need not be nowhere dense, as shown by the example $A = mathbb{Q}$.
If the interior of $Xsetminus A$ is empty, then $A$ is dense: $overline{A} = Xsetminus operatorname{int}(Xsetminus A))$.
If $A$ is dense in $X$, the interior of $X setminus A$ is empty; this follows by the same formula, or note that otherwise a non-empty interior of $Xsetminus A$ could not intersect the dense set $A$.
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The Association Of Pedants deducts marks from both you and the proposer for not specifying in 2. that $X=Bbb R$ (with the usual topology)............... +1
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1) is false, $mathbb{R}backslashmathbb{Q}=mathbb{Q}'$ which is dense in $mathbb{R}$. 2) is a reformulation of 1 so is false. 3) is true. think of 4 ;)
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If $Xsetminus A$ is nowhere dense, this means that $Xsetminus (X setminus A)) = A$ contains a dense and open subset, so indeed $A$ is dense. An example cannot answer this, you need an argument.
If $A$ is dense, then $Xsetminus A$ need not be nowhere dense, as shown by the example $A = mathbb{Q}$.
If the interior of $Xsetminus A$ is empty, then $A$ is dense: $overline{A} = Xsetminus operatorname{int}(Xsetminus A))$.
If $A$ is dense in $X$, the interior of $X setminus A$ is empty; this follows by the same formula, or note that otherwise a non-empty interior of $Xsetminus A$ could not intersect the dense set $A$.
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The Association Of Pedants deducts marks from both you and the proposer for not specifying in 2. that $X=Bbb R$ (with the usual topology)............... +1
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If $Xsetminus A$ is nowhere dense, this means that $Xsetminus (X setminus A)) = A$ contains a dense and open subset, so indeed $A$ is dense. An example cannot answer this, you need an argument.
If $A$ is dense, then $Xsetminus A$ need not be nowhere dense, as shown by the example $A = mathbb{Q}$.
If the interior of $Xsetminus A$ is empty, then $A$ is dense: $overline{A} = Xsetminus operatorname{int}(Xsetminus A))$.
If $A$ is dense in $X$, the interior of $X setminus A$ is empty; this follows by the same formula, or note that otherwise a non-empty interior of $Xsetminus A$ could not intersect the dense set $A$.
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The Association Of Pedants deducts marks from both you and the proposer for not specifying in 2. that $X=Bbb R$ (with the usual topology)............... +1
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– DanielWainfleet
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If $Xsetminus A$ is nowhere dense, this means that $Xsetminus (X setminus A)) = A$ contains a dense and open subset, so indeed $A$ is dense. An example cannot answer this, you need an argument.
If $A$ is dense, then $Xsetminus A$ need not be nowhere dense, as shown by the example $A = mathbb{Q}$.
If the interior of $Xsetminus A$ is empty, then $A$ is dense: $overline{A} = Xsetminus operatorname{int}(Xsetminus A))$.
If $A$ is dense in $X$, the interior of $X setminus A$ is empty; this follows by the same formula, or note that otherwise a non-empty interior of $Xsetminus A$ could not intersect the dense set $A$.
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If $Xsetminus A$ is nowhere dense, this means that $Xsetminus (X setminus A)) = A$ contains a dense and open subset, so indeed $A$ is dense. An example cannot answer this, you need an argument.
If $A$ is dense, then $Xsetminus A$ need not be nowhere dense, as shown by the example $A = mathbb{Q}$.
If the interior of $Xsetminus A$ is empty, then $A$ is dense: $overline{A} = Xsetminus operatorname{int}(Xsetminus A))$.
If $A$ is dense in $X$, the interior of $X setminus A$ is empty; this follows by the same formula, or note that otherwise a non-empty interior of $Xsetminus A$ could not intersect the dense set $A$.
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1) is false, $mathbb{R}backslashmathbb{Q}=mathbb{Q}'$ which is dense in $mathbb{R}$. 2) is a reformulation of 1 so is false. 3) is true. think of 4 ;)
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1) is false, $mathbb{R}backslashmathbb{Q}=mathbb{Q}'$ which is dense in $mathbb{R}$. 2) is a reformulation of 1 so is false. 3) is true. think of 4 ;)
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1) is false, $mathbb{R}backslashmathbb{Q}=mathbb{Q}'$ which is dense in $mathbb{R}$. 2) is a reformulation of 1 so is false. 3) is true. think of 4 ;)
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what is $mathbb{R}backslash mathbb{Q}$?
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– Thomas
Dec 15 '18 at 15:31
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@Thomas complement of $mathbb{Q}$
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– jasmine
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If you say true, an example is not an argument. Only for false statements you need to exhibit a counterexample.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:50
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For 3 your example does not obey that the interior of the complement is empty. So it's irrelevant.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 15 '18 at 17:51
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The counter-examples to 1. and 2. in the answers are examples of a set $A$ that is called "dense & co-dense" . I.e., both $A$ and $X$ $A$ are dense in $X.$
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– DanielWainfleet
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