What is the minimum distance from the car light in which he can bring his car to a stop?
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A motorist is traveling at a constant speed V0 and is approaching a traffic light. He wishes to stop the car at the light. However, his reaction time, that is, the time it takes him to put his foot on the brakes, is T and the maximum deceleration of the braked car is a. What is the minimum distance from the car light in which he can bring his car to a stop?
The answer is supposed to be (V0²/2a) + V0T but I don't know how to get there. What I did until now was that:
a = -a
v = -at + C
V0 = -aT + C
V0 + aT = C
v = -at + V0 + aT
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt + C
0 = (-a/2)0² + V0.0 + At.0 + C
0 = C
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt
v = -at + V0 + aT
0 = -at + V0 + aT
V0 + aT = at
(V0 + aT)/a = t
Then substituting time in the "s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt" equation gives us
(V0² + a²T² + 2aT)/2a
Did I do something wrong?
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A motorist is traveling at a constant speed V0 and is approaching a traffic light. He wishes to stop the car at the light. However, his reaction time, that is, the time it takes him to put his foot on the brakes, is T and the maximum deceleration of the braked car is a. What is the minimum distance from the car light in which he can bring his car to a stop?
The answer is supposed to be (V0²/2a) + V0T but I don't know how to get there. What I did until now was that:
a = -a
v = -at + C
V0 = -aT + C
V0 + aT = C
v = -at + V0 + aT
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt + C
0 = (-a/2)0² + V0.0 + At.0 + C
0 = C
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt
v = -at + V0 + aT
0 = -at + V0 + aT
V0 + aT = at
(V0 + aT)/a = t
Then substituting time in the "s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt" equation gives us
(V0² + a²T² + 2aT)/2a
Did I do something wrong?
calculus
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$s = (-a/2)t² + V_0t + aTt$ Where's your constant of integration?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:16
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Fixed, it was 0 so it doesn't change a thing and thank you btw.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 17:19
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Hint: that's not true. What time interval are you integrating over? Is the car's displacement 0 at the start of that interval?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:24
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what does $t=0$ represents for you ?
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
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Well, I believe that t represents the time and yes the car displacement at the start of the interval 0 is 0. It has an initial velocity of V0 but at the interval 0 it hasn't moved yet.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:20
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A motorist is traveling at a constant speed V0 and is approaching a traffic light. He wishes to stop the car at the light. However, his reaction time, that is, the time it takes him to put his foot on the brakes, is T and the maximum deceleration of the braked car is a. What is the minimum distance from the car light in which he can bring his car to a stop?
The answer is supposed to be (V0²/2a) + V0T but I don't know how to get there. What I did until now was that:
a = -a
v = -at + C
V0 = -aT + C
V0 + aT = C
v = -at + V0 + aT
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt + C
0 = (-a/2)0² + V0.0 + At.0 + C
0 = C
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt
v = -at + V0 + aT
0 = -at + V0 + aT
V0 + aT = at
(V0 + aT)/a = t
Then substituting time in the "s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt" equation gives us
(V0² + a²T² + 2aT)/2a
Did I do something wrong?
calculus
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A motorist is traveling at a constant speed V0 and is approaching a traffic light. He wishes to stop the car at the light. However, his reaction time, that is, the time it takes him to put his foot on the brakes, is T and the maximum deceleration of the braked car is a. What is the minimum distance from the car light in which he can bring his car to a stop?
The answer is supposed to be (V0²/2a) + V0T but I don't know how to get there. What I did until now was that:
a = -a
v = -at + C
V0 = -aT + C
V0 + aT = C
v = -at + V0 + aT
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt + C
0 = (-a/2)0² + V0.0 + At.0 + C
0 = C
s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt
v = -at + V0 + aT
0 = -at + V0 + aT
V0 + aT = at
(V0 + aT)/a = t
Then substituting time in the "s = (-a/2)t² + V0t + aTt" equation gives us
(V0² + a²T² + 2aT)/2a
Did I do something wrong?
calculus
calculus
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:20
Irlydontknow
asked Dec 17 '18 at 16:58
IrlydontknowIrlydontknow
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$s = (-a/2)t² + V_0t + aTt$ Where's your constant of integration?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:16
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Fixed, it was 0 so it doesn't change a thing and thank you btw.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 17:19
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Hint: that's not true. What time interval are you integrating over? Is the car's displacement 0 at the start of that interval?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:24
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what does $t=0$ represents for you ?
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
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Well, I believe that t represents the time and yes the car displacement at the start of the interval 0 is 0. It has an initial velocity of V0 but at the interval 0 it hasn't moved yet.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:20
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$s = (-a/2)t² + V_0t + aTt$ Where's your constant of integration?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:16
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Fixed, it was 0 so it doesn't change a thing and thank you btw.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 17:19
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Hint: that's not true. What time interval are you integrating over? Is the car's displacement 0 at the start of that interval?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:24
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what does $t=0$ represents for you ?
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
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Well, I believe that t represents the time and yes the car displacement at the start of the interval 0 is 0. It has an initial velocity of V0 but at the interval 0 it hasn't moved yet.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:20
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$s = (-a/2)t² + V_0t + aTt$ Where's your constant of integration?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:16
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$s = (-a/2)t² + V_0t + aTt$ Where's your constant of integration?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:16
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Fixed, it was 0 so it doesn't change a thing and thank you btw.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 17:19
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Fixed, it was 0 so it doesn't change a thing and thank you btw.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 17:19
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Hint: that's not true. What time interval are you integrating over? Is the car's displacement 0 at the start of that interval?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:24
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Hint: that's not true. What time interval are you integrating over? Is the car's displacement 0 at the start of that interval?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:24
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what does $t=0$ represents for you ?
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
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what does $t=0$ represents for you ?
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
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Well, I believe that t represents the time and yes the car displacement at the start of the interval 0 is 0. It has an initial velocity of V0 but at the interval 0 it hasn't moved yet.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:20
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Well, I believe that t represents the time and yes the car displacement at the start of the interval 0 is 0. It has an initial velocity of V0 but at the interval 0 it hasn't moved yet.
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Dec 17 '18 at 19:20
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Following your scheme and indicating with$T$ the reaction time
and with $Delta t$ the following time interval to stop
$$
eqalign{
& a = - a cr
& v(t) = - at + C cr
& v(0) = V_0 = C cr
& v(t) = V_0 - at cr
& v(Delta t) = 0 = V_0 - aDelta t cr
& Delta t = V_0 /a cr
& s = V_0 T + overline {v(t)} ;Delta t = V_0 T + {{left( {v(0) + v(Delta t)} right)} over 2};Delta t = cr
& = V_0 T + {{left( {V_0 + 0} right)} over 2};{{V_0 } over a} = V_0 T + {1 over 2};{{V_0 ^{,2} } over a} cr}
$$
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Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
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until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
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Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
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$$v^2-u^2=2astag{Third equation of motion}$$
Put $v=0$(final velocity), $u=v_0$(initial velocity) and $a=-a$(deceleration) for this case to get$$v_0^2=2as$$
where $s$ is the distance further travelled.
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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Following your scheme and indicating with$T$ the reaction time
and with $Delta t$ the following time interval to stop
$$
eqalign{
& a = - a cr
& v(t) = - at + C cr
& v(0) = V_0 = C cr
& v(t) = V_0 - at cr
& v(Delta t) = 0 = V_0 - aDelta t cr
& Delta t = V_0 /a cr
& s = V_0 T + overline {v(t)} ;Delta t = V_0 T + {{left( {v(0) + v(Delta t)} right)} over 2};Delta t = cr
& = V_0 T + {{left( {V_0 + 0} right)} over 2};{{V_0 } over a} = V_0 T + {1 over 2};{{V_0 ^{,2} } over a} cr}
$$
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Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
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until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
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Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Following your scheme and indicating with$T$ the reaction time
and with $Delta t$ the following time interval to stop
$$
eqalign{
& a = - a cr
& v(t) = - at + C cr
& v(0) = V_0 = C cr
& v(t) = V_0 - at cr
& v(Delta t) = 0 = V_0 - aDelta t cr
& Delta t = V_0 /a cr
& s = V_0 T + overline {v(t)} ;Delta t = V_0 T + {{left( {v(0) + v(Delta t)} right)} over 2};Delta t = cr
& = V_0 T + {{left( {V_0 + 0} right)} over 2};{{V_0 } over a} = V_0 T + {1 over 2};{{V_0 ^{,2} } over a} cr}
$$
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Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
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until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
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Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Following your scheme and indicating with$T$ the reaction time
and with $Delta t$ the following time interval to stop
$$
eqalign{
& a = - a cr
& v(t) = - at + C cr
& v(0) = V_0 = C cr
& v(t) = V_0 - at cr
& v(Delta t) = 0 = V_0 - aDelta t cr
& Delta t = V_0 /a cr
& s = V_0 T + overline {v(t)} ;Delta t = V_0 T + {{left( {v(0) + v(Delta t)} right)} over 2};Delta t = cr
& = V_0 T + {{left( {V_0 + 0} right)} over 2};{{V_0 } over a} = V_0 T + {1 over 2};{{V_0 ^{,2} } over a} cr}
$$
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Following your scheme and indicating with$T$ the reaction time
and with $Delta t$ the following time interval to stop
$$
eqalign{
& a = - a cr
& v(t) = - at + C cr
& v(0) = V_0 = C cr
& v(t) = V_0 - at cr
& v(Delta t) = 0 = V_0 - aDelta t cr
& Delta t = V_0 /a cr
& s = V_0 T + overline {v(t)} ;Delta t = V_0 T + {{left( {v(0) + v(Delta t)} right)} over 2};Delta t = cr
& = V_0 T + {{left( {V_0 + 0} right)} over 2};{{V_0 } over a} = V_0 T + {1 over 2};{{V_0 ^{,2} } over a} cr}
$$
answered Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
G CabG Cab
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Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
$endgroup$
– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
$begingroup$
until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
$endgroup$
– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
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Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
$endgroup$
– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
$begingroup$
until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
$begingroup$
Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
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Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
$endgroup$
– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
$begingroup$
Thank you, I was able to see my mistake but I didn't understand a few things. Why did you sum V0T to the displacement function? Where did that V0T actually come from?
$endgroup$
– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:39
$begingroup$
until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
$endgroup$
– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
$begingroup$
until the driver actually press the brake, the car will continue with the constant initial speed (for a time T $to s_1=V_0T$). After that the deceleration will decrease (approx. linearly) the speed from $V_0$ to $0$ taking in $Delta t = V_0/a$. During this time the travelled distance $s_2$ will be equal to the average speed $V_0/2$ times $Delta t$.
$endgroup$
– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 23:10
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Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
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Ooh, now everything makes sense. Thank you!
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Dec 18 '18 at 13:56
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$$v^2-u^2=2astag{Third equation of motion}$$
Put $v=0$(final velocity), $u=v_0$(initial velocity) and $a=-a$(deceleration) for this case to get$$v_0^2=2as$$
where $s$ is the distance further travelled.
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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$$v^2-u^2=2astag{Third equation of motion}$$
Put $v=0$(final velocity), $u=v_0$(initial velocity) and $a=-a$(deceleration) for this case to get$$v_0^2=2as$$
where $s$ is the distance further travelled.
$endgroup$
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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$$v^2-u^2=2astag{Third equation of motion}$$
Put $v=0$(final velocity), $u=v_0$(initial velocity) and $a=-a$(deceleration) for this case to get$$v_0^2=2as$$
where $s$ is the distance further travelled.
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$$v^2-u^2=2astag{Third equation of motion}$$
Put $v=0$(final velocity), $u=v_0$(initial velocity) and $a=-a$(deceleration) for this case to get$$v_0^2=2as$$
where $s$ is the distance further travelled.
answered Dec 17 '18 at 17:22
Sameer BahetiSameer Baheti
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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Thank you, that's it. But I wanted to solve it with the antidifferentiation method.
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Dec 17 '18 at 19:41
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$s = (-a/2)t² + V_0t + aTt$ Where's your constant of integration?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:16
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Fixed, it was 0 so it doesn't change a thing and thank you btw.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 17:19
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Hint: that's not true. What time interval are you integrating over? Is the car's displacement 0 at the start of that interval?
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– eyeballfrog
Dec 17 '18 at 17:24
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what does $t=0$ represents for you ?
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– G Cab
Dec 17 '18 at 17:25
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Well, I believe that t represents the time and yes the car displacement at the start of the interval 0 is 0. It has an initial velocity of V0 but at the interval 0 it hasn't moved yet.
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– Irlydontknow
Dec 17 '18 at 19:20