Characteristic map of a n-cell in a CW complex
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I have a problem in understanding the purpose of the definition of a CW complex. What really would help me is to understand the following:
Let $sigma$ be a n-cell and $Phi_sigma:mathbb D^n to X$ be the characteristic map. Is there any relation between $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})$ and $partial sigma$ following directly from the Definition? I know, for example, that $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})subset X^{n-1}$, $X^{n-1}$ being the $(n-1)$-Skeleton, but what does this tell me about the boundary of $sigma$?
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I have a problem in understanding the purpose of the definition of a CW complex. What really would help me is to understand the following:
Let $sigma$ be a n-cell and $Phi_sigma:mathbb D^n to X$ be the characteristic map. Is there any relation between $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})$ and $partial sigma$ following directly from the Definition? I know, for example, that $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})subset X^{n-1}$, $X^{n-1}$ being the $(n-1)$-Skeleton, but what does this tell me about the boundary of $sigma$?
general-topology algebraic-topology cw-complexes
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I have a problem in understanding the purpose of the definition of a CW complex. What really would help me is to understand the following:
Let $sigma$ be a n-cell and $Phi_sigma:mathbb D^n to X$ be the characteristic map. Is there any relation between $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})$ and $partial sigma$ following directly from the Definition? I know, for example, that $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})subset X^{n-1}$, $X^{n-1}$ being the $(n-1)$-Skeleton, but what does this tell me about the boundary of $sigma$?
general-topology algebraic-topology cw-complexes
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I have a problem in understanding the purpose of the definition of a CW complex. What really would help me is to understand the following:
Let $sigma$ be a n-cell and $Phi_sigma:mathbb D^n to X$ be the characteristic map. Is there any relation between $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})$ and $partial sigma$ following directly from the Definition? I know, for example, that $Phi_sigma(mathbb S^{n-1})subset X^{n-1}$, $X^{n-1}$ being the $(n-1)$-Skeleton, but what does this tell me about the boundary of $sigma$?
general-topology algebraic-topology cw-complexes
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If the cell $e^n_alpha$ is defined as $Phi_alpha(text{int}D^n)$, then you have the following relation:
Since the characteristic map $Phi_alpha$ is continuous, you always have $Phi_alpha(D^n)=Phi_alphaleft(overline{text{int}D^n}right)subseteqoverline{e^n_alpha}$. On the other hand, once you have proven that CW-complexes are Hausdorff (and, more generally, normal), you know that compact subsets are closed. Therefore $Phi(D^n)$ is closed, and since it contains $e^n_alpha$, it also contains the closure $overline{e^n_alpha}$. So in the end, $Phi_alpha(D^n)=overline{e^n_alpha}$.
But beware that $partial e_alpha$ is in general not the same as $Phi_alphaleft(S^{n-1}right)$. For example, $partial e_alpha$ can be the cell $e_alpha$ itself if it's a $2$-cell with a $3$-cell glued to it.
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Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
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– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
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Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
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@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
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Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
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@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
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I think it helps to have some pictures. Here is a picture of a $1$-dimensional cell complex.
For a $2$-dimensional example, try attaching a $2$-cell to the unit interval $[0,1]$, itself thought of as a cell complex with two $0$ cells and one $1$-cell. (The mouth in the face.) Here are two examples of attaching a $2$-cell.
In the first the attaching map takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to the point $1$. In the second, it takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to somewhere in the middle of the unit interval.
These pictures are taken from Topology and Groupoids (colour in the e-version). I think it helps also to develop some of the general theory of attaching a space $X$ to a space $B$ by means of a map $f:A to B$ on a closed subspace $A$ of $X$.
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I think that you should name him Alphalpha. uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/…
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If the cell $e^n_alpha$ is defined as $Phi_alpha(text{int}D^n)$, then you have the following relation:
Since the characteristic map $Phi_alpha$ is continuous, you always have $Phi_alpha(D^n)=Phi_alphaleft(overline{text{int}D^n}right)subseteqoverline{e^n_alpha}$. On the other hand, once you have proven that CW-complexes are Hausdorff (and, more generally, normal), you know that compact subsets are closed. Therefore $Phi(D^n)$ is closed, and since it contains $e^n_alpha$, it also contains the closure $overline{e^n_alpha}$. So in the end, $Phi_alpha(D^n)=overline{e^n_alpha}$.
But beware that $partial e_alpha$ is in general not the same as $Phi_alphaleft(S^{n-1}right)$. For example, $partial e_alpha$ can be the cell $e_alpha$ itself if it's a $2$-cell with a $3$-cell glued to it.
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Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
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– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
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Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
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@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
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– Zuriel
Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
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@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
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– Stefan Hamcke
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If the cell $e^n_alpha$ is defined as $Phi_alpha(text{int}D^n)$, then you have the following relation:
Since the characteristic map $Phi_alpha$ is continuous, you always have $Phi_alpha(D^n)=Phi_alphaleft(overline{text{int}D^n}right)subseteqoverline{e^n_alpha}$. On the other hand, once you have proven that CW-complexes are Hausdorff (and, more generally, normal), you know that compact subsets are closed. Therefore $Phi(D^n)$ is closed, and since it contains $e^n_alpha$, it also contains the closure $overline{e^n_alpha}$. So in the end, $Phi_alpha(D^n)=overline{e^n_alpha}$.
But beware that $partial e_alpha$ is in general not the same as $Phi_alphaleft(S^{n-1}right)$. For example, $partial e_alpha$ can be the cell $e_alpha$ itself if it's a $2$-cell with a $3$-cell glued to it.
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Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
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– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
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Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
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@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
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– Zuriel
Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
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@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Dec 4 '14 at 15:15
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If the cell $e^n_alpha$ is defined as $Phi_alpha(text{int}D^n)$, then you have the following relation:
Since the characteristic map $Phi_alpha$ is continuous, you always have $Phi_alpha(D^n)=Phi_alphaleft(overline{text{int}D^n}right)subseteqoverline{e^n_alpha}$. On the other hand, once you have proven that CW-complexes are Hausdorff (and, more generally, normal), you know that compact subsets are closed. Therefore $Phi(D^n)$ is closed, and since it contains $e^n_alpha$, it also contains the closure $overline{e^n_alpha}$. So in the end, $Phi_alpha(D^n)=overline{e^n_alpha}$.
But beware that $partial e_alpha$ is in general not the same as $Phi_alphaleft(S^{n-1}right)$. For example, $partial e_alpha$ can be the cell $e_alpha$ itself if it's a $2$-cell with a $3$-cell glued to it.
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If the cell $e^n_alpha$ is defined as $Phi_alpha(text{int}D^n)$, then you have the following relation:
Since the characteristic map $Phi_alpha$ is continuous, you always have $Phi_alpha(D^n)=Phi_alphaleft(overline{text{int}D^n}right)subseteqoverline{e^n_alpha}$. On the other hand, once you have proven that CW-complexes are Hausdorff (and, more generally, normal), you know that compact subsets are closed. Therefore $Phi(D^n)$ is closed, and since it contains $e^n_alpha$, it also contains the closure $overline{e^n_alpha}$. So in the end, $Phi_alpha(D^n)=overline{e^n_alpha}$.
But beware that $partial e_alpha$ is in general not the same as $Phi_alphaleft(S^{n-1}right)$. For example, $partial e_alpha$ can be the cell $e_alpha$ itself if it's a $2$-cell with a $3$-cell glued to it.
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answered Aug 26 '13 at 15:17
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Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
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– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
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Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
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@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
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– Zuriel
Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
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@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Dec 4 '14 at 15:15
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Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
$endgroup$
– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
$begingroup$
Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
$begingroup$
@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
$endgroup$
– Zuriel
Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
$begingroup$
@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
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– Stefan Hamcke
Dec 4 '14 at 15:15
$begingroup$
Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
$endgroup$
– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
$begingroup$
Of course, thx! So, at least $overline{e^n_alpha}e^n_alpha$ is contained in $X^{n-1}$, that's very encouraging :)
$endgroup$
– user83496
Aug 26 '13 at 15:58
$begingroup$
Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
$begingroup$
Yes, because $overline{e^n_alpha}-e^n_alpha$ is the same as $Phi_alpha(S^{n-1})$ since $Phi(partial D^n)$ and $e^n_alpha$ are disjoint.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Hamcke
Aug 26 '13 at 16:15
$begingroup$
@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
$endgroup$
– Zuriel
Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
$begingroup$
@StefanHamcke, I am reading Introduction to Homotopy Theory by Martin Arkowitz. Exercise 1.16 of the book asks the reader to prove that the boundary of $e_{alpha}$ is equal to $Phi(S^{n-1})$. Does it contradict the first sentence of the second paragraph of your answer?
$endgroup$
– Zuriel
Oct 28 '14 at 12:48
$begingroup$
@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Hamcke
Dec 4 '14 at 15:15
$begingroup$
@Zuriel: Sorry for the late answer, I had to finish my diploma thesis. The boundary of a cell $e_alpha$ must contain $overline{e_α}-e_α=Phileft(S^{n-1}right)$, but it could be all of $e_α$, for example when $e_α$ is the $1$-cell in a complex consisting of a $1$-cell whose end points are attached to a point, and a $2$-cell which is a disk attached along its boundary via a homeomorphism to the circle $overline{e_α}$.
$endgroup$
– Stefan Hamcke
Dec 4 '14 at 15:15
add a comment |
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I think it helps to have some pictures. Here is a picture of a $1$-dimensional cell complex.
For a $2$-dimensional example, try attaching a $2$-cell to the unit interval $[0,1]$, itself thought of as a cell complex with two $0$ cells and one $1$-cell. (The mouth in the face.) Here are two examples of attaching a $2$-cell.
In the first the attaching map takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to the point $1$. In the second, it takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to somewhere in the middle of the unit interval.
These pictures are taken from Topology and Groupoids (colour in the e-version). I think it helps also to develop some of the general theory of attaching a space $X$ to a space $B$ by means of a map $f:A to B$ on a closed subspace $A$ of $X$.
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1
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I think that you should name him Alphalpha. uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/…
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– Baby Dragon
Aug 26 '13 at 18:10
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think it helps to have some pictures. Here is a picture of a $1$-dimensional cell complex.
For a $2$-dimensional example, try attaching a $2$-cell to the unit interval $[0,1]$, itself thought of as a cell complex with two $0$ cells and one $1$-cell. (The mouth in the face.) Here are two examples of attaching a $2$-cell.
In the first the attaching map takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to the point $1$. In the second, it takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to somewhere in the middle of the unit interval.
These pictures are taken from Topology and Groupoids (colour in the e-version). I think it helps also to develop some of the general theory of attaching a space $X$ to a space $B$ by means of a map $f:A to B$ on a closed subspace $A$ of $X$.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
I think that you should name him Alphalpha. uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/…
$endgroup$
– Baby Dragon
Aug 26 '13 at 18:10
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think it helps to have some pictures. Here is a picture of a $1$-dimensional cell complex.
For a $2$-dimensional example, try attaching a $2$-cell to the unit interval $[0,1]$, itself thought of as a cell complex with two $0$ cells and one $1$-cell. (The mouth in the face.) Here are two examples of attaching a $2$-cell.
In the first the attaching map takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to the point $1$. In the second, it takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to somewhere in the middle of the unit interval.
These pictures are taken from Topology and Groupoids (colour in the e-version). I think it helps also to develop some of the general theory of attaching a space $X$ to a space $B$ by means of a map $f:A to B$ on a closed subspace $A$ of $X$.
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I think it helps to have some pictures. Here is a picture of a $1$-dimensional cell complex.
For a $2$-dimensional example, try attaching a $2$-cell to the unit interval $[0,1]$, itself thought of as a cell complex with two $0$ cells and one $1$-cell. (The mouth in the face.) Here are two examples of attaching a $2$-cell.
In the first the attaching map takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to the point $1$. In the second, it takes the boundary of the $2$-disc to somewhere in the middle of the unit interval.
These pictures are taken from Topology and Groupoids (colour in the e-version). I think it helps also to develop some of the general theory of attaching a space $X$ to a space $B$ by means of a map $f:A to B$ on a closed subspace $A$ of $X$.
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I think that you should name him Alphalpha. uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/…
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– Baby Dragon
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I think that you should name him Alphalpha. uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/…
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– Baby Dragon
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I think that you should name him Alphalpha. uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/…
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– Baby Dragon
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