Using series for determining the convergence of improper integral












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We apply the integral test for determining the convergence of series . For example integral test is useful for $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}$ or $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{ln n}{n}$ . Because the integral test is biconditional , I thought about the other way . I mean determining the convergence of the improper integral with the help of series . Is it practical ? What are the examples for it ?






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    $$int_1^inftyfrac{dx}{x^2}$$
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    – DonAntonio
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    @DonAntonio Thanks but we can easily solve that integral without help of series . I'm interested in cases in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series .
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    it can be used sometimes, however it is not so practical. The reasons is that there are more tools to use to calculate integrals than tools to calculate series. Moreover: the comparison just works in the case of non-negative integrands, but there are convergent improper integrals that are not absolutely convergent
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    @Masacroso Yes , I agree with you . It was just interesting to think about that .
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We apply the integral test for determining the convergence of series . For example integral test is useful for $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}$ or $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{ln n}{n}$ . Because the integral test is biconditional , I thought about the other way . I mean determining the convergence of the improper integral with the help of series . Is it practical ? What are the examples for it ?






real-analysis calculus integration sequences-and-series improper-integrals







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    $$int_1^inftyfrac{dx}{x^2}$$
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    – DonAntonio
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:13










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    @DonAntonio Thanks but we can easily solve that integral without help of series . I'm interested in cases in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series .
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:15










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    it can be used sometimes, however it is not so practical. The reasons is that there are more tools to use to calculate integrals than tools to calculate series. Moreover: the comparison just works in the case of non-negative integrands, but there are convergent improper integrals that are not absolutely convergent
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    – Masacroso
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:18












  • $begingroup$
    @Masacroso Yes , I agree with you . It was just interesting to think about that .
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    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:32














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We apply the integral test for determining the convergence of series . For example integral test is useful for $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}$ or $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{ln n}{n}$ . Because the integral test is biconditional , I thought about the other way . I mean determining the convergence of the improper integral with the help of series . Is it practical ? What are the examples for it ?






real-analysis calculus integration sequences-and-series improper-integrals







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We apply the integral test for determining the convergence of series . For example integral test is useful for $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{n}$ or $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{ln n}{n}$ . Because the integral test is biconditional , I thought about the other way . I mean determining the convergence of the improper integral with the help of series . Is it practical ? What are the examples for it ?






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    $$int_1^inftyfrac{dx}{x^2}$$
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    – DonAntonio
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:13










  • $begingroup$
    @DonAntonio Thanks but we can easily solve that integral without help of series . I'm interested in cases in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series .
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:15










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    it can be used sometimes, however it is not so practical. The reasons is that there are more tools to use to calculate integrals than tools to calculate series. Moreover: the comparison just works in the case of non-negative integrands, but there are convergent improper integrals that are not absolutely convergent
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    – Masacroso
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:18












  • $begingroup$
    @Masacroso Yes , I agree with you . It was just interesting to think about that .
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:32


















  • $begingroup$
    $$int_1^inftyfrac{dx}{x^2}$$
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    – DonAntonio
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:13










  • $begingroup$
    @DonAntonio Thanks but we can easily solve that integral without help of series . I'm interested in cases in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series .
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:15










  • $begingroup$
    it can be used sometimes, however it is not so practical. The reasons is that there are more tools to use to calculate integrals than tools to calculate series. Moreover: the comparison just works in the case of non-negative integrands, but there are convergent improper integrals that are not absolutely convergent
    $endgroup$
    – Masacroso
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:18












  • $begingroup$
    @Masacroso Yes , I agree with you . It was just interesting to think about that .
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:32
















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$$int_1^inftyfrac{dx}{x^2}$$
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– DonAntonio
Dec 23 '18 at 22:13




$begingroup$
$$int_1^inftyfrac{dx}{x^2}$$
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– DonAntonio
Dec 23 '18 at 22:13












$begingroup$
@DonAntonio Thanks but we can easily solve that integral without help of series . I'm interested in cases in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series .
$endgroup$
– S.H.W
Dec 23 '18 at 22:15




$begingroup$
@DonAntonio Thanks but we can easily solve that integral without help of series . I'm interested in cases in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series .
$endgroup$
– S.H.W
Dec 23 '18 at 22:15












$begingroup$
it can be used sometimes, however it is not so practical. The reasons is that there are more tools to use to calculate integrals than tools to calculate series. Moreover: the comparison just works in the case of non-negative integrands, but there are convergent improper integrals that are not absolutely convergent
$endgroup$
– Masacroso
Dec 23 '18 at 22:18






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it can be used sometimes, however it is not so practical. The reasons is that there are more tools to use to calculate integrals than tools to calculate series. Moreover: the comparison just works in the case of non-negative integrands, but there are convergent improper integrals that are not absolutely convergent
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– Masacroso
Dec 23 '18 at 22:18














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@Masacroso Yes , I agree with you . It was just interesting to think about that .
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– S.H.W
Dec 23 '18 at 22:32




$begingroup$
@Masacroso Yes , I agree with you . It was just interesting to think about that .
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– S.H.W
Dec 23 '18 at 22:32










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Sure. In some cases, it is practical. Consider, for instance, the integral $displaystyleint_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dx$. Thenbegin{align}int_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dxtext{ converges}&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyfrac1{n(n-1)}text{ converges}\&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyleft(frac1n-frac1{n+1}right)text{ converges,}end{align}and it is clear that the last statment holds (it's a telescoping series).






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    Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
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    Right now, I can't think of an example.
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    – José Carlos Santos
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    Okay , thanks again .
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Sure. In some cases, it is practical. Consider, for instance, the integral $displaystyleint_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dx$. Thenbegin{align}int_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dxtext{ converges}&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyfrac1{n(n-1)}text{ converges}\&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyleft(frac1n-frac1{n+1}right)text{ converges,}end{align}and it is clear that the last statment holds (it's a telescoping series).






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    Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
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    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:23










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    Right now, I can't think of an example.
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    – José Carlos Santos
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    Okay , thanks again .
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Sure. In some cases, it is practical. Consider, for instance, the integral $displaystyleint_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dx$. Thenbegin{align}int_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dxtext{ converges}&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyfrac1{n(n-1)}text{ converges}\&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyleft(frac1n-frac1{n+1}right)text{ converges,}end{align}and it is clear that the last statment holds (it's a telescoping series).






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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
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    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:23










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    Right now, I can't think of an example.
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    – José Carlos Santos
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:25










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    Okay , thanks again .
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    Dec 23 '18 at 22:32














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Sure. In some cases, it is practical. Consider, for instance, the integral $displaystyleint_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dx$. Thenbegin{align}int_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dxtext{ converges}&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyfrac1{n(n-1)}text{ converges}\&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyleft(frac1n-frac1{n+1}right)text{ converges,}end{align}and it is clear that the last statment holds (it's a telescoping series).






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Sure. In some cases, it is practical. Consider, for instance, the integral $displaystyleint_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dx$. Thenbegin{align}int_2^inftyfrac1{x(x-1)},mathrm dxtext{ converges}&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyfrac1{n(n-1)}text{ converges}\&iffsum_{n=2}^inftyleft(frac1n-frac1{n+1}right)text{ converges,}end{align}and it is clear that the last statment holds (it's a telescoping series).







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    Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:23










  • $begingroup$
    Right now, I can't think of an example.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:25










  • $begingroup$
    Okay , thanks again .
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    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:32


















  • $begingroup$
    Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:23










  • $begingroup$
    Right now, I can't think of an example.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:25










  • $begingroup$
    Okay , thanks again .
    $endgroup$
    – S.H.W
    Dec 23 '18 at 22:32
















$begingroup$
Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
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– S.H.W
Dec 23 '18 at 22:23




$begingroup$
Thanks , it was interesting example . Do you know a case in which solving integral by itself is not possible and then we use series for determining convergence of integral ?
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– S.H.W
Dec 23 '18 at 22:23












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Right now, I can't think of an example.
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– José Carlos Santos
Dec 23 '18 at 22:25




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Right now, I can't think of an example.
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Okay , thanks again .
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Okay , thanks again .
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